On Loneliness and What is an Identical?
Tuesday March 25, 2008
8:30 P.M.
Seth… Good evening. A pleasure to have all of you here again. A little bit of housekeeping: Isabella, I remember I gave you one more week and then I would strongly suggest that you do at least ten pages a week from The Secret with the man through whom I speak so that you can get that over and done with. And speaking of ten pages a week, make sure you (I believe directed towards Jasmine.) do it too because right now you are in need of that book.
That being stated, I am going to go into our idea of Change again. I’m going to cover, whether it be in one night or many nights, four distinct points. I am going to deal with feeling lonely or being lonely. I am going to cover being grounded, how you settle yourself and I am going to deal with how do you step back from anger which will all lead to the idea of how you build upon your past and change it if necessary.
Jasmine… That’s the fourth point?
Seth… Correct.
Jasmine… How do you build upon…
Seth… Build upon your past or change it if necessary.
Jasmine… Your past…
Seth… Yes, the word is p… a…s…t. Now that being stated unless it is an absolute necessity, I believe that it would be far more profitable for each of you that if you have a question, write it down. And we will then go ahead and answer them once I get through with a portion of my material.
Isabella… Nobody is asking anything tonight. (Group laughter.)
Seth… I will demand that they ask quite a bit since you are typing the session. So, everyone must ask at least three to five questions.
Isabella… No! (More laughter.)
Seth… On topic or off.
George… Probably both. (Laughs)
Seth… Now, the concept of being alone requires a working definition from each of you. And I believe that it is important that we get it, so we have some sense of to where each of you relates to the statement. Betty?
Betty… Ah, definition of?
Seth… Lonely.
Betty… Alone?
Seth… Yes.
Betty… Um, not being in the company of others.
Seth… Fine. George and then pass the microphone.
George… Ah, of being disconnected from others, from everyone around you.
Seth… Disconnected.
Isabella… Um, feeling secluded both emotionally and physically from people.
Arthur… Not having others to transact with and exchange with.
Frank… Longing to be with others and at times feeling abandoned when not.
Jasmine… I think I see it in a more negative way than most people have expressed.
Frank… (Said softly.) Abandoned is pretty strong.
Jasmine… Well other than you Frank. (Frank laughs.) Other than you. Unfulfilled, lonely, sad, those kind of thoughts.
Stephanie… The idea of being alone or lonely?
Seth… Both.
Stephanie… I mean, you know there are times when I love to be alone so that would be a good thing, being alone. I enjoy being alone at times. And then the lonely would be where there would be a need for others. But yet feeling millions of miles away from another.
Seth… All this being stated, there are three portions of loneliness that we must delve into. The first physical plane and the second which is higher realm has two portions, the third being the majority of individual souls and the second being a type of soul that is rare, not unheard of but rare that for our purposes here we shall call “Identicals”. I do not mean twins, I mean identicals. Let us start with the physical plane idea. First you relate to the idea of being alone as isolated, something that you do not have. The difficulty here is simplistic in and of itself. Are you alone? If you turn on a T.V. or a radio program and listen to it, it has been noted by your scientist that background noise is important for mental functioning on higher levels.
Jasmine… Is important for?
Seth… Mental functioning on higher levels. Silence removes you from the outside which leads to the concept of poor communication. I have recently asked a question. Which is worse, being in a home with someone who you do not understand or communicate with or being alone by yourself? Now, the answer is obvious. Most individuals initially feel that being alone is worse. Yet I tell you this being within a community atmosphere such as a stadium filled with individuals or being with one other person that you do not relate to or understand or communicate well with is far more detrimental to your health and wellbeing than you could possibly imagine. Anger is usually the result of that intermixing of facts.
Let me give you an example taken from the man through whom I speak. Give us a moment. A number of years ago both he and Jasmine were invited to a religious ceremony, a coming of age of a Jewish child and they went to this temple that was full of very devoutly religious individuals. The service goes on, the child does their part well and finally the service ends. And when this service ended everybody congratulates each other for the Saturday holiday and the man through whom I speak of course had been separated from Jasmine and many individuals reached over him and congratulated their friends and hugged them. Yet not one of these individuals said one word to the man though whom I speak. His sense of utter loneliness quickly led to outrage and anger. How he dealt with it matters not. (Jerry who knows how to stand up for himself spoke to the Rabbi. F.N.)
Yet the human condition quite often deals with loneliness on massive levels. It is known that there is a large increase in suicides during your holiday periods. The despair that individuals feel is obvious. Yet quite often individuals isolate themselves. They become almost invisible to the outside world, and they wonder why they are unhappy. They turn to addictive behavior since they cannot function in any profitable manner. Individuals who complain constantly who find unhappiness wherever they turn clearly demonstrate the fact that they have isolated themselves from the community that they are in. Addiction to unhappiness of feeling poorly becomes rampant when you look through narrowed eyes because your conscious mind has been focused solely on a narrow beam of thought. You refuse to allow your conscious mind to function adequately. You prevent information from inner frameworks to come thorough to counterbalance your narrow point of view. Physical plane loneliness is a byproduct of fear. In reality of course, you can never be truly alone. When you narrow your view, when you close off your hearing, when you restrict your speech individuals then wonder why things or events do not have flavor. The food of life, the experience of the physical plane becomes bland, tasteless if you will.
One must then look to higher realms for a difference in understanding. Each individual soul when you have been created from The All That Is embarks upon a journey. Physical plane gives you experience, yet on higher realms it is impossible for you to be alone. First, you are obviously part of The All There Is and second, since the “All There That Is” is and there is no place, no dimension that The All There Is does not exist in, it therefore becomes impossible for you (the individual soul) to ever be alone. Your classroom or home is filled with students, teachers, guides, masters who never judge but only instruct. It is not a moment that you could imagine when you are truly alone. Therefore, the difficulties that you believe you have here are due to the erroneous belief that you can isolate yourself, first from yourself and second from everything else. A note here, there are many instances where an individual soul chooses to study by themselves but that does not mean that they are alone or isolated. What you have on the physical plane is the idea that I can truly not exist alone, and you cannot. You cannot exist alone! The belief is that you can.
When you are feeling worthless or unloved you delude yourself by cutting off communication from yourself and this action causes great dis-ease. Again, you can never be truly alone but you can make yourself lonely. When you do not feel loved you are making yourself feel lonely.
The next idea, and it is a complicated one to say the least is the idea of identicals. I have made reference to them in the past and we will see if we can put some of this into a perspective that you can understand. When an identical is created there is one individual that starts. Yet this one individual as in the sense of human procreation splits but there is still a connection therefore from one there were two.
Jasmine… You’re talking about souls?
Seth… Correct. Yet there is one. These individuals go through many higher realms until they find themselves as one again. To make this even more delicate, let us assume you have an identical part A and part B since they are an identical, half of A is always in half of B yet half of B is always half of A. These individuals most commonly do not incarnate together. Since they are always in communication one to the other, they can never be alone. What one knows instinctively the other one knows. If they do not incarnate at the same reference points the one who is not incarnated always gives information to the one that is incarnated. They are always in direct communication one to the other. When they incarnate, one may incarnate for example in London, the other one may incarnate in Bangladesh.
Jasmine… But at different times.
Seth… Even at the same time.
Jasmine… Oh.
Seth… When they choose to incarnate together their learning is vastly different than yours. Their problems and their eyesight internal and external is vastly different than yours since it becomes impossible for them to shut down because you cannot cut off half of yourself. These individuals and there a number of them always choose to work together and they do this, they span time. One would be born a number of years ahead of the other. You may call them delayed identicals if you will. Yet their isolationism is at times a detriment to their growth and development because they isolate themselves from the rest since they do not require or believe that they need others. Therefore, it is quite difficult for them to understand what others are not since they always are. To sum up here, you have three levels that one must deal with, the first being the physical plane individual who must come to realize that they can never be alone since they are always part of The All That Is. They always have direct communication with their higher selves, spiritual guides, teachers and friends. When an individual feels lonely or abandoned they have isolated themselves and stopped communication first with their conscious mind and only allows that conscious mind to see out and not deal with information from within. And not deal with information from within. (Seth repeated the last phrase to emphasize it.) On spiritual planes it is obvious now that you cannot be alone. So, if you feel alone on the physical plane one must meditate, one must re-contact if you will yourself. You must open your conscious mind to allow information to pass from higher realms into the physical plane where you currently reside.
And lastly identicals, these individuals must learn not to isolate themselves either on the physical plane or in higher realms since the idea from one there were two, plays an important factor in their existence. Try to imagine if you will that half of you is gone but the other half is still there but resides in someone else. It is at best a difficult lesson to learn.
Jasmine… Half of you is gone but…
Seth… exists in some… and half of you exists in someone else.
These individuals must learn to communicate with others. They commonly practice incarnations alone. The more difficult pairs routinely incarnate together for support.
Before we take our break, write this down in capital letters: YOU CANNOT BE ALONE BUT YOU MAY CHOOSE TO MAKE YOURSELF LONELY. We shall take a break.
(It was 9:13 P.M.)
Seth… Let us continue: I believe that I have given you enough information, at least this evening, so that we may then turn to the idea that it should have stimulated some of your questions. Therefore, are there any questions?
Isabella… (Laughing.) I have a question. I don’t really want to but I have one. You told me once about a soul that I had a connection with in collage and I’m almost positive that you used the word identical with him because he and I…
Seth… Absolutely not, you are not an identical.
Isabella… So, what did you say?
Seth… I said you were like a twin.
Isabella… So, what does that mean?
Seth… In other words…
Isabella… What’s the difference there?
Seth… Think of bar codes if you will. That they are not perfect…
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… but they are close.
Isabella… Okay.
Seth… That’s what it is.
Isabella… So, were he and I created at the same time?
Seth… You were created around the same time, so your tendency is to feel a connection there.
Isabella… Not that I’ve seen him in the last ten years.
Seth… It matters not.
Isabella… Okay so…
Seth… That’s what it is.
Isabella… But you don’t have, you don’t have…
Seth… For example, there are people who are twins who again were created around the same time so their viewpoints, their actions, the way of looking at things would be very, very similar. They are as best as I can tell you in the same classroom if you would use that as an idea.
Isabella… So, when I move on to a higher realm would I match up with him in the same classroom or his soul whoever that is in the same classroom.
Seth… You would probably; you would probably be in fairly close connection with that individual.
Any other questions?
Frank… Yeah, in a similar vein the question about me and Zachary (Frank’s son.) being very similar is that also…
Seth… Well, remember when you are in a soul family per say not that it is, when you are in a soul family per say not that it is always the case because you can move from one soul family to another, and you commonly do. It just depending upon what your interests are therefore in most common soul families you are all approximately the of the same soul age. You are dealing with similar types of situations, for example it would be foolhardy to believe that an infant soul would be connectable to a mature soul since their outlook is vastly different. You understand?
Frank… Yeah, there are lots of similarities between soul family members.
Seth… Yes, and therefore you will be more or less (similar. Frank was talking at the same time in agreement.)
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George… What would determine if you are part of a soul family?
Seth… It’s what you are. It is not determined. It’s for example you have a physical plane family on earth.
George… Right.
Seth… Before you were incarnated you and your guides, teachers selected your parents, your brothers, your sisters, your aunts, your uncles because the realm of experience that you chose to get and give would be compatible with some of these people for whatever line of study you were on whether it be positive, negative or anything in between… Therefore, when you are in a soul family you are all approximately the same age. You have similar interests and your discussions from a moment-to-moment basis concern those interests. Do you understand?
George… So would I be considered part of this soul family because I’m here in (not clear but the question is whether George is part of the soul family of those who attend these Seth sessions.)
Seth… It would, first of all I will not answer the question because it would serve no useful purpose for you. However, or anybody else for that matter, but if you become very interested in this series of lectures it becomes obvious after a while that in the larger sense possible of course you must become a soul member of the family because otherwise you wouldn’t stay interested. (George was relatively new to sessions in 2008 but has attended sessions on a fairly regular basis up to the time of this typing in January of 2014) Does that make sense to you?
George… Yes.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Isabella… Well, you don’t necessarily have to be part of the soul family of your physical plane family, correct?
Seth… No, you do not.
Isabella… Like, Mom, Jasmine is not part of her physical plane family, well not me…
Seth… I will not answer that question, move along.
Frank… I am curious as to how others would react to one of the identicals like if you are married to one do they have a very hard time with that, they don’t even know?
Seth… Most commonly most identicals keep that hidden from the one who is incarnated.
Frank… The other one who is not incarnated…
Seth… Who is not incarnated…
Frank… just gives them information. They don’t know, they don’t even know on the physical plane they are that. (An identical.)
Seth… They would tend to have very good psychic abilities for very obvious reasons.
Jasmine… But what about their communication skills in terms of others?
Seth… At times it can be quite lacking, especially in infant and baby souls. As they progress to young and mature souls their communication skills work…
Jasmine… better
Seth… better for them. So, by the time a soul, an identical becomes, arbitrarily here, a mature soul that they pass the level three mature soul age their communication skills are excellent.
Jasmine… With others?
Seth… Yes, in the beginning they certainly were not.
Jasmine… Yes, because that was part of the whole thing that they are not…
Seth… They tend to be isolationists. That also goes by the way with the idea of communities and countries too. For if you look for example at countries, many of them tend to be isolationist. They tend towards that and that is due to a lack of communication.
Jasmine… Yes.
Frank… And…
Seth… Hold it (microphone) close so you can speak and be heard.
Frank… And just in general the idea about knowing about identicals is so that we can then better know about…
Seth… Whether it’s, whether it is better to know about yourself or whether it is better to know anything, there is a need at times for information and the information you have to learn to compare and contrast. You have to learn to understand that information itself gives you knowledge and experience. And since it gives you knowledge and experience how you then use that information, how you capture it if you will and make it become part of you is something you know that you have to discern for yourself. I give information because without it the lecture would not have been complete.
Frank… In terms of this… if identicals being a rarity during our course do we ever come across one that…
Seth… I am sure you have.
Frank… So, one out of a thousand?
Seth… It matters not; one out of hundred thousand, one out of hundred million, one out of two it matters not. And if you met one what difference would it make?
Frank… I’m just trying to put it into a context of something.
Seth… Of what? Of walking into a tree?
Frank… (Was mumbling.)
Seth… No, you are not an identical if that’s the question.
Frank… I know I am not… one.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
George… We talked about when you love being alone and not be alone that concept?
Seth… Yes, you may be lonely, but you are not alone.
George… Your area is filled with all these students and teachers and guides so then, I still want to talk about when you’re feeling alone you are not alone, you delude yourself by cutting off your engagement with yourself.
Seth… Correct.
George… Well, how do you, how does someone go about re-establishing communication with yourself and all these other people around you?
Seth… Do you remember the exercise I gave you a few weeks ago?
George… Yeah.
Seth… How often have you done it?
George… Not as often as you wanted me to. (Isabella giggled.)
Seth… One of the things that you must do is learn your own inner rhythms. Your sounds, your inner voices and if you just sit there and allow things to play themselves out you will then get a feeling for who and what you truly are. And by allowing yourself to open you will gather information that heretofore you did not have access to.
George… So, am I doing it wrong? I tried to do at the opportunities where…
Seth… All you have to do is to sit quietly and do not focus, do not think you’re meditating and whatever sounds, feelings, thoughts pass you by do not follow them but just allow them to be and you will hear an inner body rhythm and that is the fact that you are connecting at that portion to your higher self. And you will have information that will spontaneously come to you. It is not a question of doing it correctly or incorrectly. It is a simple question of doing. Remember, do you remember when you first drove a car? Remember how you used to think about, foot on the gas, foot on the brake, turn your hands, look in the mirror, look at the speedometer? All things have to be repeatable to you. Do you do that now? Do you think the same way when you drive?
George… No.
Seth… Or does it become part of you so that it is instinct if you will.
George… It becomes, it becomes instinctual but there’s a lot of times I’m during the course of my day I’ll try and stop and like…
Seth… No, we are only talking about driving now.
George… Okay, yes.
Seth… So, it does become instinctual so the exercise that I am giving you is to make you become instinctual about finding yourself. And when you find yourself, you will note that you are much more content. And you are much more content because you have allowed yourself the luxury of going ahead and feeling you. One of the things people who tend to be negative or isolationists about is that they put themselves at a distance from themselves and they constantly do this. Le Chang is a perfect example of this. (Le Chang is Jerry’s friend and has been to several sessions. He has had many lives and often chooses to learn from negativity. Seth has used him as an example a number of times.)
Also, as an aside in a little bit of housekeeping work, Jasmine, it is obvious at least to me that you also need to do some reading. Please get finished with the book The Secret as quickly as you possibly can and then you are also required to read The Nature of Personal Reality. You will note that the portions of the book that the man through whom I speak gave you were directly pertinent to you.
Jasmine… Yeah, I have been reading it.
Seth… And again, when you read this book, I would suggest that you get your own copy. I would suggest that you underline. I would suggest that you take notes, and I would suggest that you do not try to read the book in terms of seventy-five pages at a time. Read three, five pages and digest it. Make it become part of you and you will see that in doing this your existence will change, should you allow it to do so. To our friend Frank, you may not. (Frank laughs.)
Let us move along, are there any other questions?
Isabella… I have a question. I am curious about the Rachel soul that is around all the time. That’s a name I, that I get constantly when I am meditating. I’m just curious if that is a spiritual guide, a twin soul…
Seth… Have you ever spoken to Rachel herself?
Isabella… Part of me thinks it is me, that it’s my higher self is Rachel. It’s not?
Seth… No. Therefore, your work that has to be done is to speak to Rachel yourself.
Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… Yeah, I just wanted, at the break I was just wondering about the idea of if you feel alone or lonely, the idea of meditating because you know you had mentioned on higher realms (that) you always have the understanding that you are never alone. Would that be automatically a way for a person to get back in touch with that idea?
Seth… Of course.
Stephanie… That that is what you are saying.
Seth… The idea is to communicate. Write that down. The idea of not being alone is to communicate. And who is the most important person you must learn to routinely communicate with? The answer is of course, self! So, when you are feeling alone you must first get into contact with yourself. Since you can never be alone you are only reacting to loneliness because you have isolated yourself. Do you see the difference Kaetorina?
Jasmine… So, if you are feeling lonely you are saying to meditate?
Seth… Absolutely.
Are there any other questions?
Arthur… The loneliness I felt at the Smith’s, what was I supposed to be learning there? I…
Seth… What loneliness did you feel?
Arthur… That in the ceremony that was going on, the retirement ceremony when I went to sit in the family slot, there was no seat for me.
Seth… Were you not then isolated?
Arthur… I felt isolated.
Seth… Were you? Of course! Did you ask why is there not seat for me?
Arthur… No, Jim came to me right after the ceremony and noticed it and apologized to me and said he’d forgotten. So, I had no…
Seth… Of course, you did. Did you stand up for yourself and say, I want you to understand even though you forgot this is how I felt?
Arthur… No, I didn’t.
Seth… Why not?
Arthur… Because it was in the middle of his retirement ceremony. (Arthur was giggling.)
Seth… No that is not an excuse. That is an excuse for you to allow you to feel badly.
Arthur… I had another piece that was also holding me back and that is that I felt humiliated in front of his sister.
Seth… Better that you should feel humiliated in front of his sister than stand up for yourself, that is what you told me. Now, if you were your patient and someone said that to you what would you say?
Arthur… I’d probably would…
Seth… What question would you ask?
Arthur… What did you do to promote self…
Seth… Yeah, what did you do?
Arthur… in that situation?
Seth… The answer is?
Arthur… I…
Seth… Did nothing.
Arthur… grieved. I went to the reception and made sure that I spoke with people. I made an effort.
Seth… You did nothing at that point because you did not correct the injustice that was done. So therefore, you were isolated. You didn’t correct the injustice. Notice the story and I told it for this reason about the man through whom I speak and what he did to correct the injustice that was done to him, and I believe that he felt better.
Arthur… Alright, but then I could have gone to Jim afterwards.
Seth… And you still haven’t.
Arthur… No.
Seth… Why not?
Arthur… I thought it was over. (Giggled.)
Seth… Is it? Obviously, you feel badly. I believe you have your own answer.
Are there any other questions?
George… I have a question along that same line?
Seth… Okay.
George… I’m curious, do you think it would be profitable for me to confront my boss because of all the sort of angst that I am having at work as a result of what happened with the whole residency situation in terms of how I feel? I feel abandoned and not looked after and I feel that the people I work with that I ended up bargaining with, like would I have anything to gain by confronting people about that?
Seth… What do you think?
George… I think no.
Seth… Why not?
George… Because I think in the end it may come back to…
Seth… How… it depends upon how you do it. Is that not factual?
George… With these people I don’t know.
Seth… It is not a question of that. It’s a question of I want you to understand that I appreciate all that you have done for me in the past and hopefully will still do for me, however, I am feeling abandoned now. What would they say to that?
George… Ha, tough shit! (Chuckles.)
Seth… Isn’t it better to know that someone cannot be counted on? Do you understand what I am saying?
George… Yes.
Seth… Are…
Frank… There seems to be something very important about stating it. That that is part of correcting even if they don’t respond that seems to be very important to the individual.
Seth… Who is the person who matters most?
Frank… Self.
Seth… And if you allow someone to slap you, what are you telling yourself?
Frank… That you are not worthwhile.
Seth… Correct. Is that what you are doing? (To George) Shaking your head yes. Okay, I believe we now have a solution to that.
Any other questions?
Arthur… Yeah, I have a few, sorry. (Arthur laughing perhaps directed at Isabella who was to type the session.) In a way there was a sense that this was my own doing, in the sense that I you know this notion of impure motives. I wanted to triumph over his sister and my sister-in-law and it’s almost as though that it’s like a pride goeth before a fall or something that, that I, I was humbled by that. I was also angry by that, so wasn’t I really making a victim of myself? This man apologized to me. He recognized what he had done wrong, and he said he was sorry. Did I require more than that? And is…
Seth… Do you?
Arthur… I don’t know.
Seth… If you don’t know then who should find out?
Arthur… I should.
Seth… You’ve answered your question.
Arthur… But what about this notion of this being of my own doing because I was having these competitive feelings with her?
Seth… Did you set up the seating?
Arthur… No, no.
Seth… You had nothing to do with the seating, did you?
Arthur… No, I had nothing to do with…
Seth… There is no competitiveness there at all.
Arthur… But I went there with a feeling of competitiveness. I stayed in the house; I was invited to the house, she was staying in a hotel.
Seth… One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Arthur… It was she that I felt humiliated in front of.
Seth… I understand, that’s still nothing to do with anything. What your feelings were are obvious because you did not set up the seating.
Isabella… Just a quick aside about typing up this session; do I have to type up questions that are completely unrelated to session?
Seth… Absolutely. Every word, every phrase, every comma, every period including that sentence will be on your transcript. (Stephanie laughs.) I hate you; that will also be on the transcripts said by Isabella. (Note, Frank typed this session almost six years later in January of 2014.)
Are there any other questions? (Long pause, it seemed that Stephanie had something else to ask but decided against it.) Nothing else?
Let me leave you with this: Since you can never be alone on any level, guard against the possibility of loneliness because you isolate yourself. And when you isolate yourself, your wants magnify, and your needs are unfulfilled. Meditate, open yourself up. Face yourself back at the center point knowing full well that you always are part of something greater. I bid you all a very fond good evening.
(Session ended at 9:57.)