Seth 400
Roads to Misery and Victimization
Tuesday April 21, 2009
8:35 PM
Seth… Good evening, a pleasure to have you all here again with me this evening. Frank what are your subjects?
Frank… The topics are poor self esteem and victimization.
Seth… Before we get into either subject other than the celebration of our 400th session. Frank, what do you believe was the purpose of my asking you to select a topic?
Frank… I wasn’t completely sure, but I did think about it. I thought it was to move me out of the pattern of not taking any kind of risk or avoiding thinking for myself. And I thought a large part…
Seth… Stop there. In actuality the purpose of the exercise was to prove to you that you have allowed yourself to fall by the wayside when it comes to creativity itself. In reality you spent most of the three weeks torturing yourself and not listening to the man through whom I speak and Kaetorina when they consistently tried to push you back on a correct path. This exercise clearly demonstrates one of the primary reasons that you get lost in the forest. You become so overwhelmed with the idea that for you, knowledge and being complete in what you do challenges the very essence of your creativity patterns. I have purposely left the microphone off since future listeners need not hear these comments. Frank, you must guard against giving up to be correct. You would have found the exercise easier if you had just taken the effort to provide yourself with the knowledge that it mattered not what you said. When you reflect upon this session it will become obvious that both your topics were in great portion supplied to you by others in various forms. (Actually, it seems that the microphone was not shut off and the comments above are left here to show the reader that those of us at the table all struggled with various growth issues. Some of us more than others! F.N.)
Seth… Under our heading of Change On The Road To Misery we shall look at the idea of victimization. If one victimizes another the reality is that you also victimize yourself. I have stated previously that the void and the scarring that one creates when you victimize another is always there for the victim as well as the individual who sought to do harm to the other. An example here let us, in a hypothetical example, use the idea that one’s child is going to be harmed by another individual. You as the parent have it within your power at this precise point of reference to kill this individual. You do so obviously, victimizing our first soul but the void and the scars you leave behind will affect you for lifetimes to come.
Remember here that you were completely justified in your actions. The police would not even charge you with a crime yet you have made your own jail and will suffer because of your actions. Note that I am not saying that you should not save your child. I am saying that you will pay a price, and a heavy one at that for your actions. (In 2016 the issue of gun control is even more polarizing than in the past. The idea that rejoining violence with violence even when protecting a loved one exacts a price is not even a consideration in the debate. Not acting, as the reader will see has its own complications. F.N.)
Stephanie… What would that soul be working on then if this was the most major event in their life?
Seth… It may not have been a major event at all. It may have been a small portion of that soul’s existence that was brought to the forefront of their incarnation by the play of the person of who you killed and or your child.
Jasmine… But their suffering?
Seth… Most of these individuals faced with this type of situation often retreat within themselves since they fear that their actions have caused them to look at a negative line of study that was unwarranted and unnecessary. Again, this is clearly evident with soldiers who feel guilty when their friend has died in battle. Their creativity patterns circulate around the idea of why not me? Why do I deserve to be left alive?
Frank… Wouldn’t the result be the same if the man took no action and the child was killed by the original person?
Seth… Inaction does not produce the same response as action. One could find fault with themselves by saying if I had been quicker, smarter, stronger I could have prevented this. That is a victimization of self and not of another.
Frank… But you were the cause possibly?
Seth… Inaction is not a cause. When one does nothing to either help someone else or to assist themselves, it is not possible to victimize another. You may find fault with your actions by being afraid or fearful. You may see a wanting when looking backward upon any specific event. Inaction has its own set of problems. One must learn to eliminate the clutter that surrounds most individuals who inhabit the physical plane. Again, our example with our friend Frank clearly shows the clutter that he involves himself with when trying to make difficult decisions. Do or do not is a simple method of removing obstacles from your path. One finds themselves on the road to misery when the clutter becomes paramount in your moment-to-moment existence. When one fears a decision, you are in reality preventing yourself from succeeding. These individuals look at events and try to find every point of information that they can. They constantly revisit an event. They outline various forms of action or inaction. In doing so they create mountainous obstacles that they have to overcome in order to see what their true path should be. A decision is a simple matter but for most individuals they agonize over which portion of the decision is correct. Do or don’t do, succeed or fail, correct or incorrect are the choices that individuals believe they have to make.
In reality the only decision that matters is whether one does something and creates what they choose or abdicates their responsibility to themselves thereby accomplishing nothing. When one victimizes themselves, they become fearful of even making the slightest error. These individuals are unforgiving since they fear being found out as an individual who is lacking even on the simplest of terms. Other individuals victimize others since they know their own weakness prevents them from even looking at themselves. They become so angry since they believe that others will take what they have because they “know” that they will never have enough. These individuals are always empty; they are afraid because they do not enjoy the sunshine of existence.
Unfortunately, many individuals waste lifetimes on hating someone or something. These individuals hate others who are a different color; they detest others who are worshippers of a religion that is not theirs. These individuals feel victimized by their lack of prosperity. These types of souls do not fit in with anyone or any group that does not measure up to their ideal. Their hatred is so consuming that they would rather end their own incarnation than see another succeed. Victimization in any form produces scars and creates a void within the self as well as the other. Hate groups abound when times are difficult. It is far easier to blame another than it is to promote your own well-being. No one exists on the physical plane without learning to promote the general good. Each individual must learn to step aside, remove the clutter so that others may prosper. Far too many individuals look at the idea of perfection as the end result of their desires.
Perfection itself should never be perceived as an attainable goal. In fact, the idea of perfection should be left on this page and never again be sought after. Imperfection is the driving force that will allow you to learn, to grow, to prosper in whatever endeavor you choose. The old statement is true, one learns from their mistakes. You are here on the physical plane to feel and to experience that which you already know. The experience that you gain becomes apparent when you are not perfect. I’ve stated on numerous occasions that the greatest gift a parent can give a child is to let that child fail. My gift to all of you is to allow you to overcome whatever obstacles you find in your path. The road to misery is fraught with danger. Victimization is one of its obstacles.
I believe we shall take a break. (9:22 PM)
Seth… Let us continue: The idea of perfection for many is a goal that when looked at drives individuals to unrealistic expectations of self and others. Many individuals are so unforgiving that they tend to make jokes about the failings of others. The parent who says to the child you only got a 97 on your examination what happened to the other three points is a victimizer. The employer who chastises his underlings for not getting the perfect contract is a victimizer. The man who demands sexual satisfaction from a woman is a victimizer. These individuals seek perfection from others knowing full well that they themselves fall short in every aspect of their own existence. These type of individuals force others to do their bidding. I’m paying you so you better perform adequately. If you loved me you would do this for me. How can I depend upon you when you don’t make an attempt to try is the message that these individuals give.
There is nothing that exists on the physical plane that approaches perfection yet there are many who insist upon the idea that perfection is what one needs to achieve in order to be satisfied with their performance or another’s on any kind of challenge. Many of these individuals try to examine every aspect of a question out of fear that they themselves have on that specific subject. They fear that they will miss something, that they will overlook some aspect of the opportunity and the challenge that they have been presented with. Please note that I am not saying that one should become lackadaisical or attempt to find the easy way out of any challenge. Period. What I am saying is that one must strive to understand the challenge in as many ways as practically possible. By this I mean one must attempt to understand the intricacies of the situation itself. In doing so you open yourself up for success that will allow your own creative patterns to enrich your being. It is not necessary to understand every aspect of a problem. It is necessary to understand that you may always come back to that problem and restudy that which you believe you have missed or misunderstood.
Are their any questions?
Frank… So going back to the original example, the man is going to hurt your child. If you are seeking to solve that situation….
Seth… Is there a correct solution to the problem so you may escape the problem without any aftermath…
Frank… By killing the person.
Seth… Or doing nothing. Without any aftermath for either your actions or inaction is there a solution to that problem? The answer to that is simply, no. I use this example because there is no good answer. It is equivalent for me attempting to have you give me the exact numerical value of pie.
Frank… So essentially in that situation you do the best you can do.
Seth… That is correct.
(Our friend Frank asked if he could take a picture or two of Seth and he said fine.)
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… I’m curious about with Bill if he is taking action to try to find a new job but his feelings about self are negative and doesn’t feel worth anything good how does the universe receive this mixed message where there is action but self esteem problem?
Seth… The answer to that is quite simple if you look at something but don’t like yourself how good or how profitable can you make that something? The law of attraction here clearly reflects that an individual who does not like themselves enough will always be left wanting.
Stephanie… Then what good is the action portion?
Seth… The action part of the question causes the universe to take notice of what you desire. It is the belief in self that will allow you to stop victimizing yourself so that you may achieve that which you desire.
Stephanie… Okay, so right now all of Bill’s actions are for naught?
Seth… I’m sorry to disagree. He is setting in motion waves of energy that will allow him to succeed should he change his attitude. Remember he may be offered a position that may be barely acceptable with this type of attitude but will not be offered the ideal position should his viewpoints and attitudes be changed to a more positive nature.
Stephanie… So it is almost like he is practicing the actions of…
Seth… Foolish question leave it go. It’s not practicing, it’s stating what he needs.
Stephanie… Oh, so it goes nowhere because you are talking about the idea that things have to coincide…
Seth… I did not say it goes nowhere. I clearly stated that!
Stephanie… Right so but what I am saying is things have to be balanced so words, you know…
The idea of balance when asking or attraction something is the idea of perfection. The idea of perfection is impossible. There is always some part of you or any soul for that matter that questions, that has difficulty with something and that idea of perfection limits what you obtain. Stephen limits himself out of fear since he believes that he himself is not worth it. Do you understand?
Stephanie…. So until he feels worth it there won’t be anything that comes his way?
Seth… Again, you are so intent upon success that you did not understand my previous statements. The question arises what is success? In this situation is success leaving his firm and finding a new job or is success leaving his firm and finding a superb position? The answer to that depends upon his viewpoints. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Yes. So until he feels worth it there won’t be anything that comes his way.
Seth… Again, you are so intent upon success that you did not understand my previous statements. The question arises what is success? In this situation is success leaving his firm and finding a new job? Or is success leaving his firm and finding a superb position? The answer to that depends upon his viewpoints. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Yeah.
Seth… I think your question has been answered. Frank?
Frank… If I would like to begin to work with clients utilizing the point of power exercise what do I need to do?
Seth… What do you believe you should do? If you decide what you should do you will have to make the decision to do or not to do. If I give you the answer what useful purpose does it serve? The answer is…
Frank… I understand.
Seth… The answer is none. It serves no useful purpose at all. You’re not asking about a technique you are asking about what do I do. If you are doing something and have a question about what you are doing I can help you correct it if you are doing something that is not beneficial.
Frank… I kept the question short to keep it short. If I tell what I think I should do then you can help me.
Seth… Do it first.
Frank… I need to do it first?
Seth… You need to do it first.
Frank… I will do it first and then I’ll ask.
Seth… Correct, you must learn to think. This exercise for this evening clearly showed that you abdicate thinking. This exercise for this evening clearly showed that you abdicate your thinking and creativity.
Is there anything else?
Arthur… Can you give me any more information about the experience that I heard this name Hedalia that I have some ideas about? I thought…
Seth… What are your ideas?
Arthur… Something that came up in a healing that was being done on me by a Brennan (Barbara Brennan is a well know energy healer and author.) person and we were working on an early instance of victimization and I asked for a change in the way she was doing it and asked for that person’s higher self to come in and I got that name Hedalia. The next couple days later when I was meditating about it and asked for information I got a whole different figure. The first figure was female, the second figure was male and I took on… I began to say words in a language I didn’t know.
Seth… And?
Arthur… I’m just curious or interested. I don’t know I guess I am wondering whether, why I connect this with Hedalia or what…
Seth… Why would you connect two separate events when they have no connection?
Arthur… Because I was meditating about to get information about Hedalia and that’s the result that came so I’m wondering if that…
Seth… They are not connected.
Arthur… Right, how do I learn about either these…
Seth… By meditating.
Arthur… To continue to ask for information?
Seth… Of course.
Arthur… (Laughing, said something about not being sure how to evaluate what messages she was getting)
Seth… That’s again that is your perception and the more you work with your perceptions the better you will become. (Seth then directed Stephanie to type the following.) You have to work with your perceptions to strengthen her ties to the male and female souls that came through.
Arthur… I’m getting a lot of different souls coming through.
Seth… No problem there. Some could be spiritual guides, some may be part of your higher-self, some may be various other souls that you have encountered upon your travels.
Arthur… So if it interests I just ask for more information.
Seth… Correct. Are there any other questions? Let me leave you with this. Before I give my final summation, Arthur, one of your great difficulties is that you are afraid to open yourself to the possibility that you can forgive and allow yourself the luxury of moving ahead easily. A great deal of your problems occur because you become mired down in fear and one must look at that. One must make a decision do I stay with where I am or do I move to higher ground.
Arthur… I certainly waffle but have I not made some decisions (Not clear but the idea was that of am I making progress?)
Seth… You’re moving towards the area.
Let me leave you with this: Victimization, scars whether you be the victimizer or the victim one must aim for perfection knowing full well that one can never achieve it. Eliminate the clutter. Remove hate from your path. You will walk away from the road to misery by allowing your needs to be fulfilled and your wants lessened. A profitable evening to all.
(Session ended at 10:15 PM)