Seth 423
Questions On Never Deprive Anyone of Hope and Learning to Say No Properly Tuesday December 15, 2009
8:52 PM
Seth… Good evening. It is again a pleasure to have you here with me this evening. What we shall do for purposes of brevity is to move around the table and have each of you ask one question at a time. I noticed that you have labeled this session 423, in reality you could change the numbering system to 422 A. Do we have a volunteer? I will make the announcement that your questions should pertain to the session.
Isabella… How can one properly say no to themselves when everything in their being says yes?
Seth… In simplistic terms what you are asking is the equivalent of having someone who is an addict break that pattern. An addict obviously requires their “fix” so that they may function on a somewhat lesser level than most. The individual who mistakenly believes that they would like to say one thing but are forced to do another is dealing with fear and want. Most individuals in this category understand that they have a closed belief system and desperately require wanting which of course leaves them with nothing. These individuals are battered by themselves and by the circumstances that surround them. Their ideas of winning become paramount as long as this belief system is in place. These types of individuals refuse constructive conversation. They limit themselves to their own perceptions and will not allow anyone else to challenge their belief systems. It is obvious that in a closed belief system there can be no room for error.
The individual who believes that they must say yes even when no is proper deludes themselves into believing that they had it better with their addiction. To break this pattern these individuals must come to the realization that they must be in control of their own creations. This does not mean nor should it be interpreted as such that winning is ever necessary. If you can only see and deal with your perceptions, then your system is closed since you cannot criticize self. The individual who lives within these walls typically is unhappy and blames everyone else for their misery. They cry for help but only on their terms. They cannot and will not function in a fair and equitable manner. They often complain about physical discomfort. Their dis-ease increases exponentially as long as this system is closed. For most it is better to be battered than find freedom even if they realize that they are in error. Simply put there is no give and take within this closed system. The breaking of the habit occurs when the individual realizes that no matter what they do they cannot find prosperity under these circumstances.
Next question.
Frank… Is hope a precursor to faith? i.e.: I hope things will work out for the best versus I know things will work out for the best. Also, you use hope to promote self when it’s not possible to know something, when faith is not there?
Seth… Hope is never a precursor to faith. The second question that you asked at least the first part of the statement you are using hope instead of want. Example, I hope for the best. The second part of your statement is such that when you know something you will attract it to yourself if you work diligently. An example of this may be seen with Kaetorina’s son Zachariah or Zach if you prefer. His latest school examination clearly showed that when you work for something and you know what you are working towards a positive outcome is yours for the taking. This does not mean that you will always receive or get what you want but at least you are placing yourself in a position that prosperity may be found. The last portion of your statement is simple when faith is not there you are dealing in a closed-believe situation.
Another question.
Stephanie… Why is there no margin for error in a closed belief system?
Seth… As stated in the previous session, a closed belief system depends upon everything always being in place. Once something goes array, there is no possibility since there is no leeway to correct that situation. The individual suffers since they have no possibility of escape. They find that their decision making abilities fall short since they cannot bring themselves to the conclusion that they might be wrong. It is necessary to understand that error is a normal inhabitant of the physical plane. This is called experience. Some might say trial and error. If you are not willing to listen to the others, not necessarily agree with but to listen, then you leave no room for yourself you are in a tight corridor with the walls constantly closing in. Simply put, you feel trapped by your own creations and your inflexibility to allow prosperity from any source to filter through the dark grey areas that you inhabit. It is this situation of being confined that individuals with a closed system suffer through.
Jasmine… If one doesn’t have hope does that mean their belief system is negative?
Seth… First my answer is simply put, yes. When you deal with a negative belief system you limit prosperity. You instinctively believe and create the idea within self that there is not enough. This type of belief system causes one great pain. Since there is not enough the individual feels empty and lacks the strength to move forward. They turn away from friendships when difficulties arise. They attempt to foster their beliefs on others since they erroneously believe that they are always correct since failure is not a possibility for these individuals. A negative belief system such as Lee Chang (Lee Chang is a name referenced by Seth for a friend of Jerry’s who has had many lives studying from the negative side of things,) has caused these individuals to work in reverse of a positive system of faith. They look for the unhappiness, and dwell upon their own failure to achieve a positive outcome within their small corner of the physical plane.
A negative belief system enhances feelings of worthlessness. These individuals cannot hope for something better since they have walled themselves off from the sunshine of success. Even when they are in reality correct their belief systems cause them to what may be described as overindulgence on their belief system that they are correct and in doing so they victimize others as well as themselves. There is an expression that is suitable for these types of individuals. This is a common colloquial expression. They hold up their hand and in a loud voice say, “speak to the hand.” This action in and of itself prevents a fair exchange of ideas.
Jasmine, I would also refer you to read the session from the beginning since Isabella’s question can easily be tied into yours. Betty, have you a question yet?
Betty… Yes. How do you know when saying no to self is coming from a fear place of making a change that could be positive versus when saying no to self in a situation that is not good for me?
Seth… When one looks at this type of a question one must examine that which is surrounding the individual. What are your chance encounters showing you? Where are your seasonal players leading you? Do you tend to repeat your actions over and over again? Does the universe provide you with the same opportunities? If so, then saying no to self clearly demonstrates that these situations are not profitable. Individuals here tend to rise up in arms and battle against what they believe are the constant assaults on their viewpoints. They do not understand that stepping away and saying no I am not going to participate is effective in this type of combat. On the other hand, when you say no since something is not pleasing and it is new then of course you are dealing with a situation where “no” may improve your prosperity.
Let us have another question.
Isabella… Why is it easier to say no to certain people than it is to others?
Seth… Saying no to certain individuals is easy because it is safe. You feel no threat. You do not feel you are losing anything since you instinctively know that they will always be there for you. It is the individual that you are fearful of that you would like to capture if you will, that saying no to is a difficult situation since fear and loss work hand and hand on this matter. These types of individuals believe that they cannot exist in a positive atmosphere without that other.
Another question.
Stephanie… How would a person who deals only in a belief system even begin to learn to live by a faith system? What would they do?
Seth… When an individual finds themselves in any belief system that they realize is unsatisfactory then of course they become unhappy with that which surrounds them. Now, individuals must learn to properly promote themselves. They must open themselves up, which is the first thing they must do to a fair and equitable standard of living. By this I mean that they must choose not to promote themselves over others. If you are going to live within a closed system, you tend to require winning and being correct as necessary as the air you breathe. As you learn to move to a faith system you will understand that experience is the greatest asset to existence on the physical plane. You cannot experience good without bad, up without down, but your faith in self is always unlimited. You instinctively know that with your help you will improve others; with your own guidance you will find prosperity within yourself. As your prosperity improves your experience of happiness will also improve. You will become more willing to give of self even if that giving “hurts.” You will become selfish in terms of promoting that which encourages prosperity even if it means letting someone else enjoy the ride first.
Another question please.
Frank… In last week’s session and today you have used the word instinctively when referring to either faith or belief systems, what do you mean by that?
Seth… Do you know what the word instinctively means?
Frank… Natural, impulse, knowledge that is already there.
Seth… Simply put, it is a knowing.
Frank… Even for negative belief systems?
Seth… Since something is not positive does not mean that you cannot know.
It is at this point we shall take a break. (9:56 PM)
Seth … Let us continue. Is there another question?
Frank… I was just going to respond. Just because you know something doesn’t mean it’s true.
Seth… Obviously, you still do not understand. Faith is not knowing, it’s unlimited. Since it is unlimited you will come to the conclusion that it is positive.
Isabella… Since you said that one should always have hope what if you are unsure of that which you hope for is positive or negative for you?
Seth… When you read this session, you will see that I have already answered that question. What have your chance encounters shown you? What is the universe showing you? What do you find profitable in this hope, what things repeat themselves?
Isabella… What if you are not sure if there is positive outcome in the hope?
Seth… What have you seen by actions of others? Words mean very little, actions mean far more than words could ever have or do. Words have various feelings and meanings. The action of another, the helpful hand, the going out of the way to do something is more important than the grand gesture of words that means nothing.
Another question.
Jasmine… When everything can’t always work out do these people adjust their thinking to make their initial thoughts match the unexpected outcome?
Seth…. No, they do not. Surprises, difficulties do not allow for success in a closed belief system… It is a singular path that these people are on. They must win. When they do not win, they blame others and victimize themselves with misery and unhappiness. They do not let go; they do not change. They try to force others to accept their belief system!
Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… What causes a person to develop a belief system versus a faith system to begin with?
Seth… Simply put, one must understand that there must be growth and development of any individual. I do not want you to leave these sessions with the erroneous belief that all belief systems are negative, they are not. In terms of experience and growth all individuals will always move from a belief system, positive or negative into a faith system when they properly cultivate and create their experiences in terms of what is profitable.
Do we have any other questions?
Isabella… My belief system, which is the fear of being alone, I want to move into a faith system that allows for freedom. Would the getting of the new apartment help me to move from a belief system in to a faith system about being alone?
Seth… There is no possible way to truly answer that question due to the fact that I will not tell you how you will react to being alone and on your own. If you come to the realization that being on your own is profitable, enjoyable and it builds self-esteem then of course you will move away from that closed belief system. However, if you do not then being on your own will become torturous. Are there any other questions? Let me leave you with this.
Each individual must learn to reduce their wants so that their needs will become profitable. When we start again, we will continue on with the nine items we have previously listed. A most hearty good evening to all.
(Session ended at 10:24 PM)
