Seth 425
Belief vs. Faith and The War with Self and Other, Homework
Tuesday February 2, 2010
8:35 PM
Seth… It is always a pleasure to have you here with me again this evening. A little bit of housekeeping. The question arises as to the idea of value. Value means something different to everyone. You may value an object that was your favorite grandmother’s. You may value what money can do for you. You may value lessons and learning, certainly friendships should be valued. Under our topic of Belief vs. Self, one must learn to value the self first for there is nothing more important than honoring the self. With this in mind we will make a simple statement to Isabella. That which you do not value is worthless. That which is worthless has little meaning and since these sessions at this point of reference have little meaning then I strongly suggest that you abstain from attending and certainly any session that Isabella abstains from is not to be given to her. (Our major topic has been Belief vs. Faith. Seth at times throws a curve ball to make us think. In this case he is being strict with Isabella, as is in keeping with what he has said to us that he is a strict teacher. F.N.)
As of last week, we were at war and we have hopefully worked diligently in learning that the object of any war is the final success of the numerous campaigns that one undertakes. We have discussed belief vs. faith issues and hopefully to come to the conclusion that if you do not believe in self than of course you will never have enough faith to win the war. I gave each of you a homework assignment that asked you to look at some of these issues and to then formulate a change in your attitudes towards the various wars that you are engaged in. It should be noted that each individual has many wars and numerous battles that rage around them at any particular point of reference. That being stated I believe it would be profitable for each of you in turn to look at your last week and pick out a few battles that have occurred relate them to the war or wars you are participating in and then relate what changes you have made from past efforts to the present. Where necessary I will comment. To our friend Frank I believe you should go first.
Frank… One of my battles was centered around the idea of being productive and what was productive enough. I did this around typed sessions, if I typed enough and the war is really valuing myself and finding a balance.
Seth… Excuse me, with this issue in mind what changes did you make from before last weeks session to now?
Frank… I was not that hard on myself if I didn’t type in the morning, but I made sure I did something so in a way I was less rigid with myself, but I also recognized that there is a lot more to this war that I have to deal with.
Seth… Again, you did not answer the question. You determined that there was a problem, but what steps did you take to change your sense of direction. One of the general rules of this type of a situation concerns the idea of comfort. When one has a task that is laid out before them one must feel comfortable with themselves first in order to confront the task and then to proceed to deal with the intricacies of that issue. Without being able to promote yourself you cannot succeed. As stated previously, you become at war with yourself and the battles that you face turn against you since you are a victim of your own inability to deal with the situations that constantly arise. Comfort is important since it allows you to rest and to renew yourself in whatever endeavor you are engaged in. The battle with self is strenuous yet the belief in self may challenge the very core of that which you are! Let us move along. Arthur.
Arthur… I seemed to have failed in many of the most basic parts of this assignment. The question I came to was why can I not promote self? I had with many issues whether it’s cake or eating, addiction to the computer or avoidance of what I need to be doing I seem to be on a negative line of study.
Seth… Let us stop there. The question then becomes what is a negative line of study? Does anybody want to take a shot at it?
Jasmine… I think it’s most appropriate for me to look at that because that’s actually what is wrapped up in my life task. A negative line of study is one where you choose to just look at negative things. You view things as the cup is half empty. You put others before you.
Seth…. Of the individuals who are here this evening how many would tend to agree with Jasmine’s statement? Betty, do you agree or not?
Betty… I agree with part of it.
Arthur… Yes.
Frank… No.
Stephanie… No that’s not the definition of a negative line of study.
Seth… We have had two individuals who have said no therefore it is incumbent upon them to fully explain their reasoning behind their answer.
Frank… A negative line of study means the participation in events that have negative energy.
Seth… What does that mean?
Frank… It involves negative energy and experiencing it versus observing it. It’s the down versus the up.
Seth… Kaetorina, you may write your answer and read it.
Stephanie… My answer isn’t going to be exactly what a negative line is because I can’t remember right now what we exactly learned. It was verbatim but I did not believe what Jasmine said was what it is.
Seth… Jasmine, you wanted to say something?
Jasmine… I wanted to ask you so in my case where my life task is to rid myself of negative energy and trying to be happy aren’t those negative lines of study?
Seth… First your primary task in this incarnation is how to handle negative energies. It is a fact that all souls must learn this method. No one who exists on the physical plane will ever have a lifetime where they do not encounter negative energies so your premises about your negative lines of study are certainly incorrect. If you remember Lee Chang, he has spent 800 lifetimes and most of them were highly successful from looking at and studying from the negative point of view. This goes far beyond what has previously been said. An example here, the war with self helps determine how you perceive your lifetime. An individual who decides not to have children in most cultures is considered someone to be shunned. This is a simple example of a negative line of study. That which everyone has but you do not, means you are on the opposite side of what has been accepted and promoted as correct. The difficulty here exists in the translation of that idea. What is acceptable in one area of your planet is deemed unacceptable in other areas therefore a negative line of study places one on the opposite side of that which is promoted and “enjoyed” by others. Another example, at distant points of reference it was considered acceptable for human sacrifice to occur yet there were many who disagreed with that practice. Those who disagreed were doing a negative line of study.
The misinterpretation of the word negative is where the difficulty arises. The idea of negative meaning “bad” is where the difficulty comes into play. Let us now return to Arthur and ask a simple question do you consider yourself “bad?”
Arthur… Probably, and in many ways.
Seth… Why do you believe that?
Arthur… Well, I was realizing after what was said about self-esteem by Jerry that I was looking at self conditionally both when I thought I was doing things that would be considered positive and when I was doing things that would be considered negative. That somehow, I had to live up to some external standard to not be bad.
Seth… The idea of a lack of self-esteem simply means that the battle that you are waging may be classically put with the idea of good versus evil. Religions play on the fear of many individuals who hold these beliefs. Ruburt suffered from this dis-ease. Let me add this to the mix. How do you define self? If one defines themselves as good you tend to promote prosperity, you will take chances and even when those chances fail, you still enjoyed the challenge. The faith that you will ultimately succeed never leaves you. If you define yourself as bad, then whatever challenge you face even if you succeed will leave you wanting for you do not believe that you yourself are worth the effort that is required for ultimate success. This is a difficult concept for individuals who struggle and are at war with themselves first and then the others. A negative line of study is highly profitable when done correctly. Most souls embark upon any number on these types of study in order to gain perspective of themselves and how they relate to and what their relationship is with others. These difficulties when placed in a proper position will enable you to change that which you have previously thought about self. In doing so you will then be able to promote the self that you so desperately need.
At this point we shall take a break. We will continue with this line of question and answer and will eventually get to part two of the war.
(9:34 PM)
Seth … Let us continue. Jasmine
Jasmine… The most obvious one would be the one I had with Isabella. Last Tuesday I was just coming out of the horror I felt when I heard she was with Tommy again and she had just gone on a date with someone else, so I was fooling myself that she was holding on to the idea that she was looking at other men. I was feeling horrible because of the fights with Isabella and having dis-ease. On Wednesday I went to the doctor and said I was very depressed. The doctor asked me, “do you want to die?” If you don’t cut this out and cut yourself from your adult daughter, you will die. It impacted me so that I really made up my mind that I have to win this war of trying to be happy and rid myself of all this negative energy that I have been dealing with my kids point and I feel I’ve been successful in this battle.
Seth… While I certainly will congratulate you for many of the efforts that you have put forth in this battle, the idea of what the war is still to an extent eludes you. It is clear that in many instances you have started to exit your involvement with Isabella. In doing so you should promote the fact that she must learn to stand up for self. The same may be said that your belief system in self needs improvement. While you have accomplished a great many things there are numerous instances where you have placed her wants over your needs, especially here seen with the concept of self. The example is clear. You placed yourself at a disadvantage. You allowed her to dictate that which you must do. You were by your own admission, quite ill yet your inability to promote self over another is interesting. You will counter with the idea that you did this out of love and the desire to help your child. The question then arises if something gives you pleasure but is harmful to you should you do it? The obvious answer is of course, no you shouldn’t. When one places themselves in any situation where you allow another to create for you it is obvious that you have a lack of belief in self. This is a war that you cannot win unless you take command of your own troops. YOU ARE THE ONE IN CHARGE! One of the ideas of time on the physical plane must be examined. You have stated this, Jasmine. Individuals require things to be done now. There is a lack of patience, respect for others and therefore a victimization of anyone who gets in their way. When one feels victimized as you do Jasmine one tends to become resentful and angry first at themselves and then at others. You cause yourself great dis-ease. The dis-ease that you cause yourself becomes more difficult to handle from point of reference to point of reference. In other words, if you have a cold, it will get worse. You are not promoting self and your own self interests. In doing so you allow the other to command that which is rightfully yours. While I commend your progress and heartily congratulate you on your actions today, I point out the fact that you have still not detached yourself from Isabella and if you are not exceptionally careful you will easily fall back into your old ways.
Jasmine… I realize that this is just the beginning but the fact that she’s moved out of the house is a very big help for me.
Seth… I give you fair warning just because she has left certainly does not mean that your “job” will be any easier. In fact, there will be more demands, and her requests will eventually become more numerous due to the fact that she is alone.
Jasmine… Well, I think I know what you mean. You are saying that she might ask can you let Krypto out for example and I will say no because this is part of what living on your own is all about just like I will not allow her to drop her laundry off. The things that I would agree with will be the things that I would like to do.
Seth… The battle has nothing to do with Isabella’s desires. It only has to do with how you perceive what the battle truly is. That is how you learn to create profitably.
Jasmine… Can you explain to me then about the storage bin… I forgot. The battle is to put myself first, to promote myself.
Seth… The battle is simple. How do I show another that I love her even when I say no. To be factual the idea of trying to promote oneself when you are ill is at best exceedingly difficult. In this instance the battle raged around, I want this done now! Then my question arises how does this promote self by allowing myself to become a victim of another. You were certainly victimized.
Jasmine… What constantly comes back to me when faced with things with Isabella, she just cares about what she cares about.
Seth… Let me leave you with this. The battles rage around you. It is your decision and yours alone how they are to be fought. Is it more profitable to lose a battle than to win a war? As difficult as it is commonly when you decide to lose a battle your wants will be lessened and your needs will be met. We will continue with this at our next meeting. A hearty good evening to all.
(Session ended 10:29 PM)
