Seth 357
Giving and Taking in a Fair and Balanced Manner
Tuesday January 15, 2008
8:25PM
Seth… Good evening, a pleasure to have… (Seth threw down a pair of glasses that Jerry was wearing because of a recent surgery.)
Frank… It’s like a blast from the past! (There was laughter as this was a ritual in the past when Jerry wore glasses.)
Seth… A pleasure to have all of you here again this evening. They are quite annoying; I shall put them in a… keep your hands off that.
Stephanie… I was going to put them in the thingy.
Seth… We have been speaking about the concept here of Change. Under our generalized category we shall again look at the idea of give and take if you will. We have previously discussed the general notion, are you a giver or are you a taker? We have come to the conclusion that many of you don’t know what you are, which is perfectly satisfactory. But more importantly so each of you must finally come to realize that whether you are a giver you must do so in a proper manner. If you are a taker, you must also take in a proper manner. For without doing either one correctly you slip into the category of negative energies. This being stated…
Jasmine… Wait a minute. Slip into category of negative what?
Seth… Energies. The concept here of being a worrier falls into the idea that whether you are a giver or a taker you either are not getting enough or you are not giving enough.
Jasmine… I don’t understand, what because you are worrier…
Seth… Let me, let me re-explain…
Jasmine… you are not giving enough and getting enough?
Seth… Yes, let me re-explain this. I stated if one is a worrier whether you are in a larger sense a giver or a taker, if you are a giver you tend to worry about how much do I have to give? What are my resources where can I keep on giving without running short?
Jasmine… That’s the giver from a worrying…
Seth… From a worrying standpoint. The taker will there be enough? I will worry about this, I will worry about this, I will worry about that. So, it becomes a broad spectrum, what can I gather and take into myself that I can worry about. (The reader should note that by paying attention to what and how you worry is a clue as to whether you are a giver or a taker, F.N.)
Jasmine… Okay I understand.
Isabella… So that’s a taker?
Seth… That would be a taker.
Isabella… So, takers, will there be enough? What…
Seth… Will there be enough of? Will I have enough? If we relate this to change and I have clearly stated that change itself is mandatory, is necessary if an individual will allow him/herself to grow. That fact in and of itself defines the physical plane experience. We have previously dealt in many past sessions with the concept here of growth so we shall again move around the table so that we can get a consensus if you will of how each of you would define growth. Do we have a volunteer who would like to start? Good, I’m very glad for you since you have so many questions we’ll start here with Isabella. (Isabella giggles.)
Isabella… Um, growth?
Seth… Yes, that is the word.
Isabella… Is the process in which you utilize changes within your existence to manifest yourself into what you were not at some point and allow your experiences to help you within that development.
Frank… Growth would be the increase in learning that one has, especially defined by experience or in an experiential manner.
Jasmine… Ah, growth is an evolving into more than you were before that comes in conjunction with learning and experience.
George… Growth is…
Seth… Hold the microphone please.
George… Sorry. Growth is basically how you assimilate experience beings or matter, anything you interact with into your life whether in positive way or a negative way whether you are learning more or learning less.
Stephanie… I see growth as an expansion of self going from point A to point B etcetera ah, based on experience.
Seth… Betty?
Betty… Oh, growth expands, I am thinking more opportunities from experience, to be open to change and expand your creativity.
Seth… Now that we have all given beautiful, esoteric definitions why don’t we get down to the simplest idea of all? Growth is a gathering and an accumulation of experiences on the physical plane to enhance that which you are. That being stated, the idea that your interactions with others defines to a large extent your perceptions of what the physical plane offers. One must look at the idea that for many the physical plane is a confusing clutter of energies, perceptions, conflicting ideas, morals and individuals who choose to grab what they can at the expense of others. The expression, life is not fair is a defining idea of the previous sentence or two. In many religions the concept of spring is necessary for it allows families and certainly individuals to sweep away, to clean up the clutter of the hibernation of winter. You find something interesting, Isabella?
Isabella… It’s just so bizarre that the story that my kids had today about, their listening selection was all about hibernating in the winter and coming on the spring. So freaky because the whole thing was about this bat and finding the bat and helping it survive in the winter and then finally it’s released in the springtime. It’s just very…
Seth… Well, I did very well on the test (Group laughter) if I must tell you.
Isabella… Yeah, I don’t know how the kids did.
Seth… Now, the give and take here between the clutter and a group of individuals are the perceptions that each has. One may look at a room and see nothing but garbage, an excess of and that individual must change their perception and sweep away the excess in their lives. Now, it is important here to note that the giver will tend to look at this clutter and try to fit the pieces of this clutter into others’ lives. They will offer their ideas on dot, dot, dot for it matters not.
Stephanie… What do you mean?
Seth… In other words, for example, give us a moment… Did you not do this recently?
Stephanie… Ah…
Seth… Chandelier. (I believe Stephanie gave away her chandelier to someone.)
Stephanie… Oh yeah (Laughs.)
Seth… Let us move along.
Jasmine… Clutter could be opinions?
Seth… Clutter could be opinions. It can be items. It can be ideas. It can be viewpoints. Clutter is.
Stephanie… How are you able to get that like that? That is such a random thing.
Seth… When someone asks a question… (Stephanie was mumbling to Frank about how Seth could know about the chandelier.) Let me, let me pause here from my lecture. When somebody asks a question and I am aware that things are relevant to that individual because they are open, I can easily then differentiate that which you require as compared to that which someone else might require from the same level of understanding. When a person is closed, I must be very guarded and careful not to give away their secrets for that is their choice. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… I believe I have answered your question.
Stephanie… Right, but how did the chandelier thing… I’m sure that was not significant up till this very second.
Seth… Why do you believe that anything anyone does around this table is not significant?
Stephanie… No, it has…
Seth… Please explain this to me. This is going to require some explanation.
Stephanie… Please explain why what?
Seth… What everyone does around this table is not significant especially to me?
Stephanie… Every single piece of minutia? Some things…
Seth… Answer my question. There are certain things that you may believe that are miniscule, the line of study is unimportant, things that do not matter. How do you know? How do you know this to be factual? That’s what you stated.
Stephanie… Well, I don’t. It’s just my own judgment…
Seth… Oh, you don’t know whether things are important or not.
Stephanie… I mean just the idea of this chandelier thing was like this aside to this whole entire day that I had.
Seth… And what does that mean? That it is not important? That it did not count? (Seth’s voice throughout this exchange had been quite emphatic.)
Stephanie… No but…
Seth… The line of study wasn’t there?
Stephanie… (Laughs.) My question really is, how did you retrieve that information?
Seth… Because I’m a lot older, a lot wiser, a lot smarter and a lot more astute than you are.
Stephanie… Right but did you research that…
Seth… For example, when you look at this tablecloth you see a yellow tablecloth, some lights, some darks, some holes in it that transverse the length of this tablecloth. I see the atoms that make it up. I speak to them.
I’d like to get back to my lecture, can you hold on? (I believe this involved an exchange between Seth and Isabella.)
Do you understand?
Stephanie… So just because I like to understand the mechanism of, when you…
Seth… There’s no mechanism, you do not have the ability, next.
Stephanie… Really? So, when you…
Seth… See me in approximately two or three billion years.
Stephanie… (Laughs.) Because I know you know what’s going to go on at this table…
Seth… Of course.
Stephanie… and how your lecture is going to go and all of that…
Seth… Every word is measured carefully.
Stephanie… Every single, (Speaking at the same time.) okay. So, when you do that research within that research is how my life fits into that…
Seth… Did I not just pause and say give us a moment?
Stephanie… Uh huh.
Frank… So, he looks.
Stephanie… Alright, Frank.
Seth… Please read my last sentence.
Isabella… Clutter is…
Stephanie… That the giver will tend to look at this clutter and try and fit the pieces of this clutter into other’s lives. They will offer their ideas on.
Isabella… Clutter is…
Seth… They will offer their ideas on how to unburden the clutter in their life by giving something away whether it be an idea, a thought, a feeling or an object, it matters not. The taker on the other hand looks at this clutter and feels burdened by it. If it weighs heavily upon them, there is a piece of dirt in the kitchen that nobody else might see, the room has things placed around it in an unsightly manner. They become disenchanted with that which surrounds them. It is this disenchantment… (Someone said go slow and Seth paused.) It is this disenchantment that requires our individual to change their surroundings by cleaning up that which they perceive as excess. Excess itself for most obviously means too much of a good thing or a bad thing for that matter. If you have too much delicious food one would tend to gain weight. If one gives too much, you are giving in excess. If one demands too much, you are taking in excess. The concept here of change between individuals is necessary. The concept here of change between individuals is necessary so that the giver and the taker may become comfortable with each other. Without this comfort level there can only be conflict. As an aside here by the idea of conflict I do not mean arguments, I do not mean anger. The conflict is between the looking at something, a line of study if you will and learning to balance the idea that if I give this, they will take that. If we are both givers, we can give away properly. If we are both takers we may take from this properly. You have a question here, Jasmine?
Jasmine… I’m confused here; it refers to looking at lines of study and learning what?
Seth… And learning to, I will re-explain this in a different way.
Stephanie… Meaning to balance the idea that if I give this, they will take that.
Seth… If you are both givers one does not want to tend to give away the house.
Jasmine… So, you want to… one should be a give and one should be…
Seth… No, not at all. If you are both takers one does not want to take everything by the same idea and throw it in the garbage can.
Jasmine… Right, just learn to take or give appropriately.
Seth… In an appropriate fashion and the conflict that arises is the balancing of that which makes you and your energies comfortable as compared to the others in your communal setting. Remember here you are not alone.
Isabella… So, the give and take between the communal setting?
Seth… Correct.
Isabella… Must be balanced?
Seth… If progress or if experience or better yet if growth is to be achieved.
Isabella… Okay. So, with, ah, just using my example of living in the house obviously, this communal setting is obviously that lesson of give and take. I mean it’s so very clear about the three of us giving and taking appropriately.
Seth… By the way, how are you doing with writing things and putting them down? Not well, are you?
Isabella… I’m not writing anything down, but I feel that I’m very comfortable with how we’re working with each other.
Seth… That may be but you still must follow the directions.
Isabella… Why is that though?
Seth… Because it is a likelihood that people tend to forget, and I do not want forgetting.
Isabella… Okay. So obviously the three of us are trying to learn this give and take balance, correct?
Seth… Correct, go ahead.
Isabella… And obviously it feels more balanced when we are giving and taking appropriately and at least…
Seth… How are the conflicts when you are giving and taking correctly?
Isabella… They are lessened.
Seth… Go ahead.
Isabella… No, I just wanted to make that comment.
Seth… Now: in the idea of change you have certain obligations which of course as I just previously stated must be balanced. Your obligations obviously to the others within your family community, work community, social community; your relationships within all of these communal settings must be balanced if any change is possible. For without the idea of being able to move freely, to change a sense of… (Seth said, dot, dot, dot) there can be no balance.
Isabella… So, you need to move freely?
Seth… You need to be able to move freely. You must be able to express that which concerns you and you must balance that by the idea of what the other meaning the others in your communal setting find either agreeable or disagreeable with what your obligations are. A good example of this learning to balance here can be seen in the idea of newspapers and coffee. The idea of balancing, bringing in a newspaper but getting a cup of coffee is certainly an important one for all. The readers of this material may take from this that if one member of a household is responsible for making the coffee for the household but another member is leaving earlier but brings in the newspaper so the others may enjoy it. There is a balance here, one gives one takes, one takes one gives so it tends to even itself out if you will.
Isabella… But then aren’t people playing both roles?
Seth… Let us correct the idea of playing both roles. What we have stated this last week, but I am going to repeat myself. There is not an individual who has ever existed on the physical plane that does not give in one sense and take in the other sense. But that is not what we are talking about. It is the overall person, are you a giver or are you a taker? And that of course you do not know, nor will I tell you.
So, your obligations here with our incident that we have just described balance your needs and allow the others in the communal setting to balance theirs.
Isabella… But then it just becomes like second nature almost, like my father always makes the coffee at night. I mean occasionally he’ll forget but that’s fine. And I always bring in the newspaper and now it’s like I have a whole routine. I mean I come downstairs from getting ready in the morning and I immediately go outside and bring in the newspaper. So, it just and if I don’t do it, it feels like weird now whereas prior to I might have never thought about doing it. And my father also feels guilty if doesn’t make the coffee. So, it’s kind of like doing those obligations become very much standard to…
Seth… You have described in a very simple manner the idea of growth. You are gathering experiences that you are making part of yourself. Do you understand?
Isabella… Of course, and of course it’s simply being put, newspaper and coffee but obviously it’s a much larger…
Seth… It’s a larger (Said emphatically) issue.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… And it is the balancing here that is of course the important factor.
Isabella… But isn’t that really key to any relationship?
Seth… That’s key to change. Nothing is static, nothing is always the same, nothing is always the same as it was. For example, you sit here and look at this tablecloth, yet if you were to look at this tablecloth five minutes from now it is different than what it was and therefore the idea here of change becomes relative to that which you are. Does that help you?
Isabella… Ah yeah, it’s just about how you deal with change? Is that…
Seth… Change is to be relished. Change is to be sought after. Change is a necessity for growth. The give and take within that idea is of course first learned as an infant soul. Your perceptions there are different. As a baby soul your perceptions of fitting into a community are different so that the change, the give, the take within those settings are of course different than they were as an infant soul. As a young soul the give, the take, the desire for power, the grasping for that which the physical plane offers; different than the other two. As a mature soul, what is your relationship to giving and taking? What is your relationship to another who gives and takes? All these are part of growth. The old soul looks at giving and taking as a means of expressing the higher qualities of the physical plane; that which becomes necessary for advancement. His views, meaning the old soul’s are vastly different from yours since they have already gone through the simplistic changes that you are first studying now.
The obligation that each of you has is of course first to self. The primary concern must be the satisfaction of your own viewpoint. Now here is a difficult problem, when you move into negative areas in change one’s viewpoint becomes so important that the individual cannot and will not consider, understand or view another’s ideas. They always find a reason or an excuse to prove their point. They never view the idea could I be wrong as a possibility! Therefore, the obligation to self does not and should never mean that only I count. The largest obligation to self must be the idea that the others, they have a vested interest in this line of study. If this is so, how can I balance that which I am or desire against their desires in a fair and just manner? That my dear students requires contemplation, effort and a work ethic that must be renewed on a moment to moment basis. You cannot balance your life without understanding.
Stephanie… So, can I ask a question? How would you achieve balance with an individual who is not open to…
Seth… Why do you have to achieve balance? Is it your responsibility to balance anyone else other than self?
Stephanie… No, but if they are not affording opportunity for give and take how does it work?
Seth… If they do not afford an opportunity for give and for take you may present that which you believe in a fair and just manner. You always will leave the possibility open for their conversation if you will so that they may hold a dialog with you. The give and take here between two individuals even when one is steadfast is necessary for your growth as well as theirs. Do you understand Kaetorina?
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… Balance comes when two individuals are willing to view each other in a fair and just manner and if they do not so be it. Remember you cannot win because you just want to. Winning is never the object of confrontation. Confrontation is to promote understanding! Do you understand?
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… I believe at this point we shall take a break. (9:09 PM.)
Let us continue: So, within our discussion of change we have come to the idea here that the obligations one has must be weighed and measured, balanced if you will in terms of your own needs as compared and contrasted to someone else. Each of you must be constantly aware of the fact that one whether you are a giver or a taker must not overstep their bounds because you violate, you violate your obligation to self and to others. Are there any questions?
Isabella… But how can you, how can you do that if you don’t know whether you are a giver or a taker?
Seth… It matters not what you are. Remember you give in a positive sense; you take in a positive sense. If you are giving or taking in a negative area, then of course you violate that which is required of you. Do you understand?
Isabella… Are we ready for unrelated or do you want to stick to related questions?
Seth… We will always stick to related questions first, if there are none of course then we may move on.
Isabella… Oh, I did have another related question. How do you know if you have excess?
Seth… When you have excess in anything that you don’t need whether it be in clothing…
Isabella… Be quiet. (Isabella kidding probably directed to Jasmine.)
Seth… food, friendships, these things may be had and actually become burdensome if you will. Then there is an excess of. Remember the universe will provide all that you require but and here is the but if you have forty-five friends and feel obligated to deal with each one of them in a timely fashion it may not be possible. Therefore, you have excess and the individuals that you are calling friend are most of the time mere acquaintances. Does that help you? Are there any other questions?
Frank… How would…
Isabella… I would ask but he said to wait for…
Frank… Well, this is a question I came in with but it’s kind of related. I have two couples that I am currently working with. I’m kind of concerned about my work with both of them. They are couples who are splitting up and we are trying to figure out how to go step by step to be able to do this in a manner that is I guess fair and is not hurtful in both cases. There are children.
Seth… You must deal with the idea here is and you don’t even have to write this down, you already know this. You must deal with the idea here of in five years is this vitally important to you? Does the piece of furniture matter? Does the logistics of matter? And for the most part it will not. So, they must learn to balance that which they believe is so important to them with reality.
Frank… So, if it’s about the kid, that matters!
Seth… That matters.
Frank… So that can help them…
Seth… The other things are things.
Isabella… In relationship to what has been going on at work, I’m wondering if you could shed some light onto the friend situation? I’m becoming very anxious and troubled by situations. I was wondering if you could…
Seth… Well first we are eventually heading into spring, spring tumors, spring cancer; that is the first order of business. The second order of business is (Isabella laughs) what have you done either giving or taking to promote friendships or have you drifted away?
Isabella… Well…
Seth… Please do not answer by the idea it is them.
Isabella… No, no, I’m not, I’m not. I, I feel I’ve drifted away but I feel I’ve drifted away, I know you just said not to do this but because of their actions.
Seth… How about for example you make a one hundred and eighty degree turn and say…
Isabella… I’ve tried that.
Seth… How about if you make a one hundred and eighty degree turn and state to one or to both, I really miss getting together with you people, could we plan something? Whether it be a night out with the girls or anything else, is that a possibility? Then if they say no then you do not have to deal with these people.
Isabella… But I have done that.
Seth… And what did they say? Could we plan something?
Isabella… They say, they say, yeah okay and then it never happens.
Seth… And then what is your next statement?
Isabella… I’m actually uncomfortable to say that to them. I’m uncomfortable at this point to even come to them and say…
Seth… Then what are you complaining about?
Isabella… Um, well, I feel like they’re out to get me. I feel like…
Seth… Brain tumor. No one is out to get you unless you put weight and value to their actions.
Isabella… Right, okay so how do I allow what they do that bothers me to pass through?
Seth… Just ignore it. It’s the simplest factor of it is. Somebody says, somebody does something and you say that was foolish, that was ridiculous and just walk away.
Isabella… But why am I giving so much value to people that really…
Seth… Because this is not what you “want.”
Isabella… What do you mean by that? Because I’d rather have them as friends, even though I don’t view, even though rationally I know that they are not really friends?
Seth… They may be good acquaintances and that’s all that is satisfactory for now.
Isabella… But why do I feel hurt?
Seth… Why wouldn’t you feel hurt? You put weight and value in something and if something is not returned why would you not feel bothered?
Isabella… But when do you say enough is enough? Like when do you say…
Seth… Whenever you choose to.
Isabella… Like I’m done giving and giving…
Seth… Whenever you choose to! Read this lecture again and again and again and again.
Isabella… But do you feel that the reason why… I am asking… I don’t really understand why the friendship has diminished the way that it has.
Seth… You just told me why.
Isabella… Because I pulled back?
Seth… Of course.
Isabella… But I don’t really see how I pulled back.
Seth… Whether you see it, whether you don’t see it, whether you understand it, it is their perception that causes them to back away.
Isabella… But they’re, they’re exclusionary. They choose to not allow other people into.
Seth… Then what, then why is this all bothering you if they are allowing no one else within their circle?
Isabella… Because I once was in and now, I’m out; I’m out of the circle now.
Seth… So then work your way back in if it matters to you if it does not leave it go.
Isabella… But I don’t, I don’t know.
Seth… You will never know until you make up your mind. I cannot help you with this. This is foolishness because all it serves is a purpose of making you more miserable which is okay with me. I do certainly not mind.
Isabella… Well, I don’t want to be miserable, that’s the point. And I…
Seth… Then don’t be.
Isabella… And I don’t want to regress to what work was like four years ago when I was having trouble.
Seth… You know exactly what to do.
Isabella… No, I don’t know what…
Seth… Yes, you do. You will either proceed to attempt a reconciliation if you will.
Isabella… But why does it have to come from me?
Frank… Because you want the change.
Seth… Because you… that’s the answer.
Isabella… Okay. Okay.
Seth… Do you understand now? (Isabella mumbling.) Not happy but you do understand.
Isabella… I, I, I don’t…
Stephanie… Do you agree with why it changed?
Isabella… Not really. I mean I do see some part of it as being my fault of pulling back. But I pulled back for the right reasons. I pulled back of the whole tenure issue, and I was trying to separate myself from everybody so that way I wouldn’t… somehow wouldn’t get into Sheila’s ears and that kind of thing. So, I pulled back in that respect and then I guess when…
Seth… Did you ever explain this to them that Sheila made it very clear she did not want you to deal with them?
Isabella… No Sheila… that is not true. Sheila made it very clear that she wanted me to be friends with them. But I backed off about talking about personal things and that kind of stuff because I was afraid of knowing how they leak things into the school. So, I backed off from them because I know who they are and how they are.
Seth… All you have to simply state is if you feel that I was not being kind, fair or just I did it because of Sheila. That’s all you have to state. And I hope I didn’t hurt any of your feelings. That’s it.
Isabella… I just don’t know when it’s enough.
Seth… No one can tell you when enough is enough. That’s up to you.
Isabella… I don’t know…
Seth… Are there any other questions?
George… I have a lot of anxiety in my work this week; partially because we are getting our reviews tonight, in meetings, do our reviews. Really, I wanted to ask, I’m not good at judging how other people perceive me at work. Like, I know what I do everyday, I know how I work but do others like, could you comment on how others see me?
Seth… Futuristic, question I cannot answer. But let me ask you a more important question; do you know your own self worth? The answer is no. I believe that it doesn’t matter what other people think until you find your own self. Does that make more sense now?
George… That’s helpful, that makes sense.
Seth… No, it is the most helpful thing I can give you is a sense of you.
George… Em.
Seth… Until you define your own self worth it matters not what anyone else says.
Isabella… He has to take control.
Seth… He controls nothing. What is controllable are his actions. If he doesn’t like it here, he can go do something else. His dream is his dream. His ideas are his ideas and if he doesn’t accept it here, he can do something else and then change it and go back and try again.
George… On a personal note, this may sound kind of weird to everyone else um, but I was trying to gauge certain plans for the near future to know what I am talking about, I’m not sure it will, if it is a good idea if the people involved will enjoy it and I wanted to ask you…
Seth… Futuristic question, no possibility of an answer that is factual. Remember nothing is written in stone. Your ideas of what you believe people may like or not like are based upon experiences you had with these individuals. But let us assume somebody loves going to a Broadway play just to give you an example.
George… Em hmm.
Seth… What happens if you pick a Broadway play that they hate? Do you understand the question that you’ve asked and why it can’t be answered fairly?
George… Hmm.
Seth… Is there anything else?
George… Not in the scope of this, tonight.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… I just want to ask about you know you’re talking about the clutter and the taker looks at things… the clutter and feels burdened by it. What are you talking about when you say the individual has to change their surroundings by cleaning up that which they perceive as excess? How are they going to change their surroundings, by their perception of it?
Seth… One, their perceptions of what excess really means. Number two, clutter does not necessarily mean a house that has a thousand pieces of bric a brac in it plus clothing all over the place. That may be physical plane clutter, but we are not describing that.
Stephanie… Right metaphorically clutter.
Seth… Clutter itself is when you are pulled in so many different directions you have no sense of. And when you have no sense of you then become angry, bothered and upset because you cannot have this or do that. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… So, clutter itself to some individuals certainly may be a house full of whatever physical plane items there are because they believe that it is not to their benefit. They believe that they want to see just everything in certain positions. Others don’t care. Who’s right I cannot say. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Okay. So, they will… the taking in is the pulling in so many, allowing themselves to be pulled in so many directions?
Seth… It is taking a little of this, a little of this, a little of this, a little of this, a little of this and now you are so you’ll excuse the expression spaced out. Should I worry about this can I handle this, should I do this first, my days are full, my nights are full, my life is full. You’ve taken in so much that you’re the clutter of that which you perceive. That which you understand becomes impossible to deal with because there is no way in which this type of an individual can be pulled in seventy-three different directions at any one time.
Stephanie… Right, so how are they going…
Seth… What they do…
Stephanie… balance this?
Seth… is break apart from the whole smaller steps.
Stephanie… Em.
Seth… They tell one small thing at a time, and they handle that one small thing. They take that small thing, start it, end it, finish it and then move on to something else. Remember a book is written one page at a time, it is not written as an entirety. Does this make sense to you?
Stephanie… Yeah. It’s a big process.
Seth… It is a very difficult one because these individuals, whether a giver or a taker, becomes so involved that they cannot see their way. Are there any other questions?
Let me leave you with this: Give and take, change, cleaning up of the obligations to, balance that is required of each individual will certainly allow you to fulfill your needs. When your obligations become confused, when you do not have balance, when you cannot clean up after yourself change becomes impossible; there is no give and take and your wants become magnified. I bid you all a fond good evening.
(Session ended at 9:46.)
