Seth 380
Breaking the Ties That Hold You
Tuesday July 22, 2008
8:30 p.m.
Seth… Good evening. A pleasure to have at least some of you here, the rest will join us whenever they choose to do so.
I would begin tonight’s session with the idea that I am going to tell you a story and the story concerns the great pianist Paderewski (Seth spelled the name.) He was a brilliant man. And this young mother decides one day to take her son to see the concert, listen carefully; the child was approximately six or seven years of age. He goes ahead and plans to go to the concert, the mother dresses him up and finally the night arrives, she takes him there and all of a sudden, she looks around and her son is nowhere to be found and then in that instant the lights dim, the curtain rises and she sees her son slowly walking across the stage and he reaches the piano. The mother is obviously in horror; she does not know what to do. (Seth taps the table indicating for Isabella to write.) And she goes ahead and is about to cry out when the little boy climbs up on the piano bench and starts tapping out with one hand the simple song, “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star” and of course there is some laughter in and from the audience, with that the great master slowly walks out and looks at the child playing and without a word he takes his left hand and places it on the piano and starts the melody for “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star”. He then reaches around the young child and with both hands starts playing the same song as the child is tinkling out his little song with one finger. The audience was enraptured by this scene. The concert was obviously a great success and in the morning all that was talked about was one song that the great master played and that of course was “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star”.
The question here arises, and it is simple you are the great master of what you create. You are responsible for change. What would you have done if it was your child? How would you have broken the spell that was created? Each of you grows up with values and opinions that are shaped by your parents. Underline the words, “shaped by your parents”. For the most part these ideas or ties if you will to the past literally connect you; you are bound to them as if by some unbreakable umbilical cord. These ties, this binding together with the past causes you to view the physical plane in a specific way; your ideas if you will, are shaped by what you see, feel and touch.
Jasmine… By what you see, feel and touch?
Seth… Correct. Unfortunately, your ego has been molded by what your parents have said to you. Their values have become yours. The idea that you must inherent their values is exceptionally limiting. Is there anyone here who would fully accept their parent’s ideas and values without question?
I see that there are none therefore, what have you done to look at, remold, change, underline “change,” that value system? One cannot have change within you unless you break, sever, or dissolve those ties that stem back to parental values. Now I am not suggesting here again that all values that your parents gave you should be discarded, that is foolish. Yet, most are reluctant to expand themselves when expansion conflicts with parental values. When you as an individual know that a series of ideas that have been set forth by your parents do not fit, most try to circumvent those ties. The old adage here is true, one can go one way or another. Yet, that adage itself is misleading and for many quite detrimental. It is easy to see that if you follow ideas and concepts that you do not like you limit your own creative powers. In other words, you are moved away from your greatest point of power; you tend to drift backward into the “past”. Yet the person who states, “I don’t like what my parents did and therefore I am going to do the opposite,” in other words, go the other way often has chosen a path that is just as detrimental! It is in most cases exceptionally limited. The answer here is obvious, if you cannot go right but believe you can only go left what freedom of choice do you have? One obviously leaves no room for compromise. Free will by this course of action is restricted since there is only one path open…
(A phone was ringing but it was coming over the cell from Betty.)
Frank… Answer the phone, Betty!
Jasmine… Oh, it’s Betty’s phone.
Frank… Yeah.
Seth… is limited.
Stephanie… Wait, wait, since there is only one path…
Jasmine… No, free will by this course of action is restricted since there is only one path open…
Stephanie… open…
Seth… and your choices are limited. Therefore, I ask each of you a question, how can you create effectively, how can you change when you are limiting available choices?
These ideas must be viewed if proper change is to take place. One of the great difficulties that most individuals have is the idea that they choose and are self-sustaining.
Jasmine… They choose to be self-sustaining?
Seth… They choose and are self-sustaining.
Jasmine… But what are they choosing?
Seth… Each individual has (The phone rang.) I shall pause… (To Stephanie) Do me a favor please, the machine was off, and I would like you to read from where I started from…
Each person has a set of…
Stephanie… Each individual, okay. Each individual has a set sense of values at any given point of reference. These values themselves give a perspective to that specific time; however, times change and so must you. One can see and note the great difficulties that arise by the choice of stagnation. You limit your own enjoyment and the beauty that surrounds you. I pointed out to Isabella the magnificent beauty of a browning lawn. How many of you treat friends, neighbors, relatives as if they were a browning lawn? Quite often you don’t see beauty within…
Seth… because you choose to keep fixed values! Those values prevent change and (prevent) a creative ability to force yourself to function on a much higher level. Stagnation itself restricts your viewpoint. It forces one into a routine that becomes repetitive. I have previously covered the idea that one should use all your available energies to free yourself from the same set of actions.
Now, are you still going the same way to work? When you are relaxing, how many of you meditate and look at the outside world? Do you wear the same type of clothing? Is your hairdo always similar? A year has 365 days, one should strive that no two days in a year are similar even if you go to the same job. Do things differently; open yourself up to the idea that you can! Are you all not guilty of becoming afraid that you can’t? What do you fear? What do you not like? Examples of this are clear, the man through whom I speak and Kaetorina fear their psychological powers, they tend to back away from that which would assist them greatly. Therefore, they limit their own abilities. Since it is necessary to change as the seasons change, how do you dress for winter as compared to summer? Are you reborn every spring? Is your harvest gathered every fall? What do you do as the seasons change or are you the same? It is obviously necessary that decisions that are made at one point of reference must and should be discarded at another. How do you react when you find it necessary to discard what you have agreed to do with yourself? In other words…
Isabella… How do you react when you discard?
Seth… You’ll pick it up from somebody else.
Isabella… Okay, but I want to know what you mean by it.
Seth… I am going to explain it, (Isabella was about to argue.) Stop!
When you have made a decision let us say to go to a movie theater to see a specific show but then you realize that it is in conflict with something else, are you angry? Bothered? Do you resent the fact that you had to change your plans, or do you seek to make excuses to accommodate an idea? Let us state a hypothetical case, someone invites you to go away with them to sleep, let’s say in a hotel or an inn but you feel you did not want to do this, didn’t like the area, do you find yourself making excuses to yourself for attempting the radical idea to say, “no”? How do you try to convince yourself that you are satisfied with the “no”? That word brings huge problems to the unenlightened. Unless you do something, you cannot succeed.
Do Nothing = Failure
Most individuals choose not to confront or even attempt the radical idea of doing something to promote themselves even in simple situations. They tend to go along with the crowd since it is easier to paddle downstream than it is to go against the current or the mass consciousness viewpoint of any given situation. Note here, I am not telling you to be contrary, I am stating that one must learn to be themselves. If something is not correct for you and you choose to do nothing you have failed that opportunity. You have done what you have always done by routinely and blindly following the easiest path.
Each of you must attempt to question the events as they present themselves to you. Most individuals fall back on the idea, I should have said that, I wish I had done more, why didn’t I think of that? They routinely discount what they have said and done. They then become angry and, in most cases, depressed over these type of events. For they did nothing, and they failed. Now I am not saying that standing up for yourself should be easy. It certainly should not be; it should be difficult for if you do not stand up for yourself who should? The temptation is to ask another first about what you should do. Would it not be more profitable to ask yourself what avenues are open and if you are still in a quandary about which of the infinite numbers of paths that open, then ask another? (Seth tapped the table which he does to indicate when someone should be taking notes.) You will then present the other person your thoughts and feelings on a specific subject. In doing so you will be able to formulate a course of action that benefits you since the ideas have been presented as your own. Even if you have ten different paths to take, present all, discuss all so that you may create change that is relevant to and for you.
Jasmine… So, you can create…
Seth… Change that is relevant to and for you. While this methodology is difficult the benefits are there. You will indeed prosper.
At this point we shall take a break.
Seth… Let us continue. A few teeny bits of housekeeping that we shall go through at this point. First Isabella, how are you doing with the typing?
Isabella… We discussed this.
Seth… I know we did but I told you that I would put it on the record today.
Isabella… (Not clear.)
Seth… Yes, Jasmine you have approximately two weeks to go.
Jasmine… Okay, I have…
Seth… I am very well aware (Jasmine speaking at the same time.) and you are doing an admirable job of something that you hate.
Jasmine… Correct.
Seth… But you are getting use to it; I assume you do not want to type tonight’s session as well?
Jasmine… That I do not want…
Seth… I understand, therefore that being stated are there any questions?
Stephanie… Why did you go into all this?
Seth… I believe it’s called a Tuesday night lecture. (Said dryly and there was group laughter. Note, much of the way Seth says anything is often with a dry sense of humor.)
Stephanie… I know but it seems like you had some ulterior motives of some sort.
Frank… He always has ulterior motives.
Seth… There is no question of an ulterior motive. One chooses their lectures in a way that becomes relevant to every reader, everyone who sits around the table. My thoughts and ideas are presented as universal facts. You may accept those facts, or you may reject those facts. That of course is up to you but as an ulterior motive? No, there is none. I use what I have to in terms of your own knowledge and learning.
Jasmine… To me, in the very beginning is the connection to the topic of Change when you are talking about the child and you demonstrated how the master was able to change what the plan had been and that all that was discussed the day after was how remarkable “Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star” was. And then you said we are the great master of what we create, and we are responsible for change and that basically is the key. I mean if you want to change it is what you create to make yourself change.
Seth… Isn’t it interesting that the great pianist himself used the child to create a situation that was memorable for every single person in that audience? If you cannot create you cannot succeed. You automatically become dependent upon the whims of others. The concept that we are delving into in terms of change is an exceptionally difficult area. Far too often you put yourself at the mercy of others and you tend to do this without a second thought. How can you possibly succeed if you allow someone else to dictate your own course of action? We can easily go around the table; I could send copies of this to thousands of individuals and ask each of them to look within themselves to note how often they allow others to rule their course of action. You will always note that I rarely if ever tell you what to do. I choose not to assist in this way since first, it takes away your free will and second, it makes that individual dependent on myself or a technique. I am sure our friend Frank can testify admirably to that.
Isabella… Can I ask a question? But am I becoming dependent on the happiness and the beauty meditation?
Seth… Why would you believe… Why would you believe that you are? Write that down, am I becoming dependent on the happiness and beauty meditation?
Isabella… Well, the only reason why I am saying it is because you’ve said to Frank before about meditating and how he’s…
Seth… What are you doing differently than what he is doing?
Isabella… I guess I use it to assist me in moments when I am either feeling negative and I try to… or a victim and I use that to try and change my point of view.
Seth… You are using it for a specific idea and value fulfillment system and because you are using that for a specific idea and value system methodology each time is different. Each effect is always different.
Isabella… So, I am not becoming, not the idea of becoming dependent on the technique.
Seth… No.
Stephanie… You know the concept of boredom, is a lot of that actually resistance to change?
Seth… What do you believe it is?
Stephanie… You know the idea of the stagnation I guess and not creating new things.
Seth… If every morning you got up and you poured yourself three quarters of cup of Fruit Loops and that is the only thing you could have for breakfast how often would you enjoy the Fruit Loops?
Stephanie… Not often.
Seth… Routine that is constant becomes a problem. (Seth tapped the table to indicate to take notes.) Routine in this instance is a problem since you cannot or will not foster change. You are doing the same thing today that you did fifteen months ago. So therefore, the times have changed, you are now ready to move along yet you do not so you’re not changing. You are doing nothing, and you have failure and one must note how that follows through. If you will look back into situations that have given you difficulty you will note that for a long span of time, a long series of reference points if you will… Is there a difficulty here?
Isabella… No, (Unclear something about towels.)
Seth… Are you not capable of thinking for your self?
Isabella… I am but I just forget.
Seth… Why?
Isabella… Why do I forget?
Seth… No, why should she remind you?
Isabella… Well, I think because it is part of the community’s… the whole thing because towels are joint community that I check first for the dryer.
Seth… No, the problem is you allow another to do your thinking. Would it not have been better off for you to fail, not do the towels, not allow yourself to get assistance from your father and now it’s your problem? What Jasmine has done is taken away your creativity. The problem is yours not hers and quite often you resent the fact that Jasmine tells you things and reminds you of things that you should be doing. When you don’t do them, you get angry and bothered by the idea of why are you constantly saying this to me? Now, if Jasmine is as intelligent as I believe that she can be, she should want you to fail. She should want you to make mistakes and therefore she can legitimately say look what you didn’t do.
Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… I just wanted to ask, you know when you say that people allow others to rule their course of action, is that, does that stem from the values that were learned from the parents?
Seth… In most cases, yes.
Stephanie… Yeah.
Seth… They are afraid to stand up for themselves.
Stephanie… But is it…
Seth… But what?
Stephanie… But is that from the parent’s not promoting the children’s freedom to choose or…
Seth… It can be any numerous series of events.
Frank… Even if (Something to do with getting hurt.)
Seth… I told you the greatest gift a parent can give a child is the ability to fail. If one deals with parents who prevent that, one can never learn. You learn more from your failures than you do from your successes.
Stephanie… And also, could you comment more about the idea about changing the values that you learned from your parents? How would you know which ones and what’s operating?
Seth… What is working for you, what is not working for you? Where do you find yourself being criticized? Where do you have fear? Where is your stress level? How do you function? Can you talk back to your mother or father? Can you deal with your siblings? Do you deal with your boss in an effective way? Do you deal with friends in an effective way when there are problems? All these issues stem from what you learned as a child and because you have an ability to look at these things and state, “I wonder if I am doing this because of?”
Stephanie… Like my mother trying to coerce me into changing my position with my father is her value system, correct?
Seth… Is her value system where and she got this obviously she grew up because she cannot confront anything. Yet to her, your stance if you will, is incorrect, “How could you do this to a parent?” That is her battle cry, forgetting that she did the same thing. So, when you point this out to her, she has nowhere to go except to agree with you. Yet tomorrow it will be the same battle cry again since she has chosen not to change.
Stephanie… She is going to hold the same position that she approached me with today?
Seth… Has she not already? How many times has this conversation taken place?
Stephanie… Too many for me.
Seth… Well, I guarantee it will probably happen again.
Stephanie… Right, so then when it does can, I just say, “I’m not going to discuss this with you?”
Seth… Why?
Stephanie… “We’ve been here before; I haven’t changed my position.”
Seth… And she is going to say, “Why not?”
Stephanie… Because it…
Seth… It is always better to give a level of understanding to someone who needs it and then eventually one can expect them to understand, not agree with but to understand your position.
Stephanie… But isn’t this just the resistance to the understanding? She understands.
Seth… No, she does not understand.
Stephanie… She doesn’t understand?
Seth… Not at all.
Stephanie… If she sees my father for who and for who and what he is?
Seth… That’s her viewpoint, she doesn’t want it to be yours. She doesn’t want you to copy her.
Stephanie… Right, she can divorce him, but I can’t.
Seth… Correct.
Jasmine… That goes back to her feelings about parents and children.
Seth… One should always honor; one cannot be mad at.
Stephanie… So, she…
Betty… How does this tie into your core beliefs?
Seth… Your core beliefs are what you started to grow up with and your core beliefs are those instances that you use, and you then camouflage your true belief on a subject and you make it real where the core belief itself needs change.
Betty… Okay so is it the same thing as the value?
Seth… The values are what you take away from the core belief.
Betty… Uh, huh, okay.
Frank… I don’t understand, how…
Seth… Take this please (the microphone.)
Frank… Okay. The values are what you take away from the core belief?
Seth… You have a belief system that…
Frank… Like if I have fear, that’s the value?
Seth… That’s the value because of your belief in something.
Frank… My belief in this is, because this is scary that is dangerous, that’s the value.
Seth… Correct.
Frank… I don’t…
Jasmine… That’s the core belief. This is scary, that is scary.
Frank… I have no confidence or self esteem because I believe I am not good at this.
Seth… Correct, that’s core belief.
Frank… Okay.
Seth… Yes?
Isabella… Can I change the topic?
Seth… Of course.
Isabella… Can you give me some assistance in this idea of feeling tired and adding this new medication and having the feeling I am…
Seth… How was your sleep last night?
Isabella… Very bad.
Seth… Then why are you making any decisions when you may be overtired, over wrought and stressed from lack of sleep?
Isabella… But I haven’t been sleeping well lately.
Seth… We are not saying what you have or have not been doing.
Isabella… But last night was a particular. Can you give me some assistance in how I can get a better night’s sleep?
Seth… Get a better night’s sleep by first telling yourself that you are going to have a better night’s sleep. By saying I have not been sleeping well I guarantee that works.
Isabella… Okay.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Frank… From the previous session (377) I typed up and the idea of the three things that make up a person?
Seth… Which are?
Frank… Sincerity, commitment and hard work. Why are you choosing these and what is your idea of a person? Is it different than a human? Why…
Seth… A person…
Frank… What makes up a person?
Seth… Whatever they define it as.
Frank… No, no, your concept?
Seth… My concept has nothing to do with yours.
Frank… That’s obvious but why, what do you get…
Seth… Why are you walking into a tree?
Frank… I’m trying to not to. But you asked me a question…
Seth… You succeeded admirably. (Isabella laughing.) One must understand the idea that what makes an individual whole…
Frank… Right.
Seth… are various complexities that we have not even begun to scratch the surface on. I may go ahead, let us say in fifteen years from now, redo the idea of Change in a vastly different way because you are not ready to understand that. I may use hard work differently. I may use sincerity or commitment differently. You still have no true concept of time. Your ideas of love are so misleading that it is staggering. So, all these factors make an individual what they are. An individual who is an old soul has an innate understanding that all that flows from higher realms down to you makes them whole.
You are still trying to understand how to walk out of a forest. You could not understand the complexities of learning about self as an old soul would for their informational systems are different. Just as an old soul who is incarnated has no concept of when I view myself; for we are vastly different than that single individual; so, the question itself is that, just a question. Each individual piece that I give you is geared to move you along on a specific road.
Frank… But the idea…
Seth… Be careful.
Frank… Well, the idea I am taking from that is the concept of what do you mean by a person?
Seth… What I mean by a person…
Frank… From my understanding, Seth.
Seth… Then you define it. I’m not going to define it.
Frank… It is what puts you along the way of making you whole or more whole.
Seth… Satisfactory answer if that’s a person.
Frank… That’s a person.
Seth… It matters not because tomorrow you may change that concept and yesterday was different than it is today. That’s why this lecture is important to you… and you will enjoy typing it up.
Frank… I told Cyndi you’d do this to me the minute I finished typing up the other one.
Seth… No, you were getting this one because of that question.
Frank… That question!? So, you… why should I want to ask questions at session anymore?
Seth… Why? Because you can’t help it. (Group laughed.)
Frank… I can help it.
Seth… Is that a threat?
Frank… No! It’s not a threat! Is that a threat?
Seth… Yes, I gave you one! You may have a month to type it up; you may take your time.
Isabella… Don’t worry, I have two that I got.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Frank… Well, why don’t you give me, while we are here, something on linear thinking or how not to?
Seth… Linear thinking itself is a series of progressive thoughts, if I do one thing here it allows me to do the next which allows me to do the next. It is a type of thinking that is detrimental because it leaves you no freedom for individual choice. In other words, if I do A then I must do B. It goes in a series like a ruler, do you understand this? Free thought is grabbing part Z from here, using part Q from here, dragging in R and dividing it and making B which now allows you to use Y and Z to make A. Do you understand?
Frank… What are the…
Seth… (Answering someone else.) About linear thinking. He wants to understand. (Frank is talking.) No, the concept was obvious that when if you do A you must get B because B must lead you to C which leads you to D.
Frank… Then for example, one way to promote free thought would be to utilize a question at night.
Seth… Again, one should always put out to the universe a question and it does not have to be in the evening before you go to bed, although that may help your dream state, but the idea is the man through whom I speak routinely practices his simple question, “How would a prosperous man act?” In your case you may want to ask, how would a man who is lost in the woods act?
Frank… I already asked that question.
Seth… And you are still there. So, the object here is to promote a question that gives you the widest possible series of answers.
Jasmine… By being creative.
Seth… Correct, which is your problem.
Jasmine… Which doesn’t allow freedom.
Seth… If you must go A, B, C, D you’re in a little box. Now you are trapped in the inside. Is there anything else, Frank?
Frank… Well…
Seth… This was a shortish lecture until you started to ask things.
Frank… Until I started, well… I don’t have to feel guilty about asking a question!
Seth… No and you should not.
Frank… So then one way to simply promote free out of the box thinking is to just ask the question and not try to just immediately answer and in other words let it sit.
Seth… What if you have a question…
Frank… Because I automatically go some place.
Seth… If you have a question, why is it necessary for you to get an immediate answer? That’s what you learned from your parents. “I want an answer!”
Frank… I heard that, a little bit. (Frank laughs.)
Seth… I know I researched that, I researched that…
Frank… That’s like a, that’s like a term.
Seth… I researched that before I made my answer and that is perfect for tonight’s session.
Frank… That was right up there with, “I’ll give you something to cry about!” (Laughs.)
Arthur… Oh, right.
Frank… That was a big one.
Arthur… Oh yeah.
Frank… (There was some discussion between Arthur and Frank and then said softly.) My kids didn’t hear that.
Seth… Do you understand?
Frank… Yes! Yeah, I understand.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… I just want to say…
Betty… (From the telephone.) I totally (like that) because I’m also trying to see how to get from one point to the next. Following Frank’s… would you then say think about what it would be like to not… to say I don’t know or not know.
Seth… When you say, what would it be like to not know puts a negative function out to the universe which is something you do not choose to do.
Betty… Then how would you resolve an issue of the need to always have an answer? That’s where…
Seth… The need…
Betty… That’s an example.
Seth… The need to have an answer does not have to become immediate; the need to have an answer if you are patient enough the answer will find you.
Betty… Okay, so that’s then not the problem or that’s okay.
Frank… That’s also the idea of saying, “Yes,” of saying, “Yes,” to the universe.
Seth… Of course.
Kaetorina?
Stephanie… I just wanted to say, the linear thinking is that the underpinning of why human nature is routine?
Seth… Linear thinking is what you live in a linear area.
Stephanie… Right but isn’t that how everyone functions. You know, a) first you do this then you do that. It doesn’t promote change.
Seth… Are the great thinkers and philosophers and scientists of your world, your portion of the physical plane, are they linear thinkers or are they free thinkers?
Stephanie… Free thinkers.
Seth… Next.
Jasmine… Despite the fact that where our specific frame of reality is based on linear time.
Seth… Correct.
Stephanie… Right.
Jasmine… I mean we have all been kind of locked into that.
Frank… I do know, that the time when I have the least pressure or enjoy myself the most is when I go, “Oh yeah! I could do it this way,” and I have done that.
Seth… Change.
Let me leave you with this: To effectively promote change, break the ties that hold you in a steadfast position. Seasons change and so must you. If you do nothing you will have failure. If you do nothing you will have failure! That line is to be typed twice. In understanding those three points, your wants will diminish, and your needs will become fulfilled. A hearty good evening to all.
(Session ended at 10:10 P.M.)
