Seth 416
Belief vs. Faith, Life as a Train Ride and the Baggage We Collect
October 13, 2009
8:40 PM
Seth… Good evening, a pleasure to have all of you here with me again this evening. A little bit of housekeeping. Jasmine, how often did you read and reread last week’s session?
Kaetorina, how is your book reading coming? Did you know you have until mid-November to finish the book? For our friend Frank, please note that I understand that you have quite a bit of difficulty in understanding Belief vs. Faith issues since we have just started you will have to be patient so that the mysteries will be eradicated as we move along.
Let me tell you a story. Each soul that enters the physical plane comes with no baggage and if you consider the physical plane as a train ride you embark upon the train with nothing. As soon as you enter the physical plane you start collecting baggage. First the love of your parents, the warmth and comfort of what hopefully is a proper home. You will develop relationships with brothers, sisters and friends. These relationships including those with your parents may either be positive or negative. Your faith in these relationships adds more baggage to that which you have already accumulated along your train trip. You will find that your belief in friendship at times will be justified and as often is the case those friends will move to a different compartment and seemingly pass from view. Whether or not they move away from you or choose to come back into your compartment is something that will be decided upon by future events. Please note there is nothing that would prevent you from looking for these friends in other compartments. Far too often you do not. As linear time passes, you will find that in most cases you will pick up a mate who will share their baggage with you and of course you will share yours with that other soul. The process continues and if you decide to have children, more baggage is added to your burden. Finally, your destination is reached, and you will exit the train with all of your accumulated baggage. It is at this time study and self reflection takes place so that your experiences on the physical plane are categorized and filed where they belong.
The belief and faith systems that you accumulate during your journey may be either positive or negative, in reality it is what you did with those belief and faith systems that matters for your own personal growth and development. One must learn to spread love to as many individuals as you possibly can. It is this idea that will help transform your experiences whether belief or faith into something that you can not only enjoy but prosper from. An example of spreading love may be seen in this evening’s meal where Kaetorina dropped her shoe upon the floor. A total stranger jumped up from her seat and gave the shoe back to her. Her kindness was overwhelmingly accepted by the entire dinner party but by her family as well. That individual’s belief system gives rise to the idea that doing something for another has benefits. You may feel and manipulate those benefits to your own advantage as this individual did. Let me explain. In a negative belief system this individual would have made a derogatory comment. She would have laughed at the fact that someone had lost their shoe. Kaetorina might have been embarrassed and would certainly have been upset with others laughing at her. This of course would have given Kaetorina the belief system that a random act of kindness serves no useful purpose.
With a positive belief system individuals tend to convert that system into a faith-based idea system thereby granting themselves access to enjoyment, happiness and comfort that they can either supply to others or have others give to them. One should notice that in a faith system there is always a give and take. The idea of yin and yang should be kept in mind when dealing within any faith-based system. In a belief system most of the energy that is expended flows in only one direction. This is obvious since belief systems are closed. When one learns to be positive even in the face of distasteful events one learns to thrive and prosper no matter what the situation.
When a soul thrives the idea of the law of attraction comes into play. This of course is true with both belief and faith systems. The old expression, you get what you pay for is factual here. If one learns first in a belief system to attract positive ideas and then one manipulates those ideas into positive outcomes, you have attracted to yourself that which you need! When one operates within a negative system one attracts that which you believe you require. It should be noted that negative ideas and events will tend to repeat themselves over not only a span of years but of lifetimes until those incendiary thoughts have been extinguished. One of the more difficult tasks that individuals face is the rejection of negative systems. Unfortunately, the physical plane, at least as you understand it, provides ample opportunity for negativity. Individuals constantly say why does this happen to me? I don’t understand it I tried so hard. The truth here is simple you cannot fool yourself. You are the creator of that which you see, feel and experience. If you are responsible for all this then the choice becomes simple. When faced with a negative system, whether belief or faith one must learn to reject those ideas. I have often said that the truly gifted individual observes and learns from any negative line of study. One does not have to participate in any study that you do not feel is profitable for your own growth and development.
The rejection of a negative system has multifaceted effects. The simplest of all is the opening of a pathway to profit and enjoyment of learning itself. How often has it been said that that person only learns the hard way? They never seem to take the easy road. They consistently choose to make themselves afraid, upset, and angry at others as well as themselves. They see evil in events where no evil is present. They are like magicians; they conjure up events by slight of hand to prove their point. Yet, when the light of truth is shone to them, they react badly. One must question how much have they learned. Do their chance encounters change, or do they still repeat the same message over and over again?
One must learn to become aware of your own thoughts. It is routine for individuals who have a faith system where happiness and contentment abound to be aware of their thoughts and feelings that are positive in nature. Fortunately, they are more aware, and they concentrate upon those thoughts and ideas that are negative! When one is aware of your negative thought patterns and recognizes them for what they are, your positive belief systems operate in such a manner as to control your creative patterns so that one does not have to participate in that line of study. The individual who chooses not to possess this ability moves directly into that negative line of study and becomes embroiled with others’ negativity as well as their own. An exercise for individuals who find themselves in this latter category is to stop and meditate on that negative idea. In doing so you encourage yourself to find a solution to that problem. It is the idea of pausing and giving yourself the chance to operate on a different belief system that will allow you to develop a faith system based on prosperity instead of a belief system that is based on negativity.
It is important to remember that all belief systems are routinely manipulated by yourself as well as others. If you choose to attract that which is positive, then the idea of dealing with negativity must be examined when it first surfaces. Far too often one says or does nothing when confronted with a distasteful event. The simplest of all answers should be repeated, why did you say that to me? How will it help me, are questions that one must immediately ask the other. When you let the other escape, you encourage your own misery! So, the question finally arrives which systems do I have? Which are primary in my consciousness? These questions, ideas, feelings should be examined by all.
I believe at this point we shall take a break. (9:23 PM)
Seth… Let us continue. Again, for those of you who need reminding I strongly recommend that you read and reread these lectures from one week to the next.
Are there any questions?
Stephanie… Can we give this to Isabella?
Seth… Yes, you may give this to both Arthur and Isabella.
Stephanie… I have a question about feeling more in control with the idea of a belief system because you can manipulate it versus a faith system. Can you explain how one can feel in control in a faith system because it’s so open?
Seth… The answer to that is simple. In the most simplistic terms at this point of reference my answer is simply put. You do not need control in a faith system since you already know that the outcome will be favorable. In a belief system you look towards someone or something and instinctively hope that they or you are doing the correct thing.
Stephanie… You mean in one you are relying on the universe in the other you are relying on people?
Seth… When one says that you are relying on the universe, I question that statement since you do not have the intellectual capacity to understand what that statement means. When you have a belief system you either are and can manipulate physically something or someone including yourself. In a faith system all that is necessary is to know that this is proper and positive.
Jasmine… When you asked your question about control, I instinctively understood that in a faith system what is going to happen will happen. You have been talking about a faith system that something proper is going to happen, can’t something negative also happen?
Seth… Of course. I am using a faith system at this point of reference in only a positive way.
Stephanie… Is this because of the idea that all is positive, even the negative because it’s all learning? Or did you do this for a different purpose?
Seth… At this point in your learning, we choose not to confuse the issue with negative faith systems. Most individuals have a difficult time with the concept of belief vs. faith. They look at this as if it were good versus bad. The good of course being faith.
Stephanie… But you have already said that having faith means that there is always a solution so why are you framing it in this way now?
Seth… A solution is always within any belief or any faith system. A solution can be positive or negative. It matters not. In a belief system a solution enforces that idea. In a faith system the solution reinforces yourself. Therefore, in a faith system one comes to recognize themselves as the creator.
Stephanie… You mean depending on how they typically create either positive or negatively then the faith will typically follow this line of creation?
Seth… A faith system, as any belief system always follows that which you create. In a faith system it is THE KNOWING. In a belief system it is the hope for a positive outcome. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Yes.
Jasmine… But a person who has a negative belief system usually doesn’t believe that there will be a positive outcome. Is that correct?
Seth… That is correct.
Frank… Why is it that as you grow belief vs. faith questions increase?
Seth… As one accumulates knowledge one instinctively understands that there is a great deal that they do not comprehend. In fact, the more one learns the more one realizes that there are many more questions yet to be discovered.
Frank… The more you learn the more you realize what you don’t know.
Seth… Correct. Do you want to go back to the question I warned you about?
Frank… My trouble, one is thinking faith is good, belief is bad and that there are more beliefs about things than there is faith about things is part of my insistence to be absorbed by every detail and this is erroneous.
Seth… That is correct. However, one must also understand that individuals who deal in a negative belief pattern become so engrossed with that pattern of behavior that it branches out and incorporates all facets of their incarnation. While these individuals would certainly not believe that they are always unhappy the truth is that they are always looking for the disappointment in anything that is just around the corner. To put this simply they understand that the glass is always half empty and no matter how many times they refill it or have someone else fill it their thirst for what they believe is the truth can never be satisfied. It is this lack within themselves due to fear that causes their thirst.
Jasmine… So as a person whose belief systems are negative, and I’m speaking personally, besides the faith in The All That Is which is a positive one, beliefs can be changed. I need to when I get into that frame of mind which seems constant, I have to stop and say I can make it better, I don’t have to think that way etc. Also, what would be an example of a negative faith system in which I live?
Seth… A negative faith system that you live by is the knowledge that your children must learn the hard way. That is a faith system due to the fact that you cannot physically change the way they function on the physical plane. You do not have that power. One of the ways to change a belief system as I stated previously is to pause, become aware of your thoughts and to meditate. One meditates on the negative thought first to understand it and second to seek a solution so that you do not have to function with that thought in simplistic terms you changed your path. As an example, when you are dealing with your sister who made a negative suggestion of what you should do since you did not have an immediate answer to her question or statement you then must pause and meditate on that question or statement. In doing so you will then find that first you did not like what she said. Say it once and let the universe provide you with an answer. Upon further reflection you will have understood that your sister is pushing her thoughts and feelings upon you. Once you realize she is doing this you may then easily reject what she states. At a later point of reference, you will then have the ability to make a counter statement changing her negative ideas so that they become positive to you by telling her that this is her problem and not yours and that if she is concerned with that problem than it is incumbent upon her to deal with that problem. You will then have an ability to observe her problem, not participate in it thereby ignoring her feelings on that subject. When you do this, you increase your belief in your strength and your dedication to self. Do you understand?
Jasmine…. I do understand that example.
Seth… But that example may be used with all difficult problems. Another example. When Isabella complains one must pause. If you do not have an immediate answer meditate and understand this is a repeating difficulty for her and the solution for her is to find her own answer. You will thereby remove yourself from her path of problems. You do this by not participating in a repeating system of chance encounters. Do you understand?
Frank… Do you believe it’s too difficult to meditate close to when these things are happening?
Jasmine… The example with my sister is totally different than what happens to me with Isabella. My sister’s belief system is that we have to lift my mother’s spirits up. I know this is not true, but I will willingly just a little bit, lift my mother’s spirits up but not to my own detriment. The Isabella thing is the hardest for me to deal with.
Seth… Is meditating hard for you: Yes or no?
Jasmine… Yes.
Frank… Is it true that right after an encounter one can just quiet themselves for maybe 30 seconds and do the necessary meditation?
Seth… When confronted with difficulty either on the phone or in person one may state let me think about that. Meditate then to help yourself find a solution.
Jasmine… I’m not supposed to say that on the phone am I?
Seth… You certainly are. When Isabella complains about her worries you can say let me think about that or let me call you right back.
Jasmine… I don’t have to think about that!
Seth… Yes, you do. It gives you time to extricate yourself from her!
Let me leave you with this. I believe over the next number of days one must look in your own compartment to see what baggage you have accumulated and ask the following question. Does my baggage help me fulfill my needs and lessen my wants? If it does so be it. If it does not then perhaps, I better shop for new luggage. Enjoy the drive and for your sake make sure the train trip is pleasant. A hearty good evening to all.
(Session ended 10:22 PM)
