Seth 425

Belief vs. Faith and The War with Self and Other, Homework

Tuesday February 2, 2010

8:35 PM

Seth…  It is always a pleasure to have you here with me again this evening.  A little bit of housekeeping.  The question arises as to the idea of value.  Value means something different to everyone.  You may value an object that was your favorite grandmother’s.  You may value what money can do for you.  You may value lessons and learning, certainly friendships should be valued.  Under our topic of Belief vs. Self, one must learn to value the self first for there is nothing more important than honoring the self.  With this in mind we will make a simple statement to Isabella.  That which you do not value is worthless.  That which is worthless has little meaning and since these sessions at this point of reference have little meaning then I strongly suggest that you abstain from attending and certainly any session that Isabella abstains from is not to be given to her. (Our major topic has been Belief vs. Faith.  Seth at times throws a curve ball to make us think.  In this case he is being strict with Isabella, as is in keeping with what he has said to us that he is a strict teacher.  F.N.)

As of last week, we were at war and we have hopefully worked diligently in learning that the object of any war is the final success of the numerous campaigns that one undertakes.  We have discussed belief vs. faith issues and hopefully to come to the conclusion that if you do not believe in self than of course you will never have enough faith to win the war.  I gave each of you a homework assignment that asked you to look at some of these issues and to then formulate a change in your attitudes towards the various wars that you are engaged in.  It should be noted that each individual has many wars and numerous battles that rage around them at any particular point of reference.  That being stated I believe it would be profitable for each of you in turn to look at your last week and pick out a few battles that have occurred relate them to the war or wars you are participating in and then relate what changes you have made from past efforts to the present.  Where necessary I will comment.  To our friend Frank I believe you should go first.

Frank…  One of my battles was centered around the idea of being productive and what was productive enough.  I did this around typed sessions, if I typed enough and the war is really valuing myself and finding a balance. 

Seth… Excuse me, with this issue in mind what changes did you make from before last weeks session to now?

Frank…  I was not that hard on myself if I didn’t type in the morning, but I made sure I did something so in a way I was less rigid with myself, but I also recognized that there is a lot more to this war that I have to deal with.

Seth…  Again, you did not answer the question.  You determined that there was a problem, but what steps did you take to change your sense of direction.  One of the general rules of this type of a situation concerns the idea of comfort.  When one has a task that is laid out before them one must feel comfortable with themselves first in order to confront the task and then to proceed to deal with the intricacies of that issue.  Without being able to promote yourself you cannot succeed.  As stated previously, you become at war with yourself and the battles that you face turn against you since you are a victim of your own inability to deal with the situations that constantly arise.  Comfort is important since it allows you to rest and to renew yourself in whatever endeavor you are engaged in.  The battle with self is strenuous yet the belief in self may challenge the very core of that which you are! Let us move along.  Arthur.

Arthur…  I seemed to have failed in many of the most basic parts of this assignment.  The question I came to was why can I not promote self?  I had with many issues whether it’s cake or eating, addiction to the computer or avoidance of what I need to be doing I seem to be on a negative line of study.

Seth…  Let us stop there.  The question then becomes what is a negative line of study?  Does anybody want to take a shot at it?

Jasmine…  I think it’s most appropriate for me to look at that because that’s actually what is wrapped up in my life task. A negative line of study is one where you choose to just look at negative things.  You view things as the cup is half empty.  You put others before you.

Seth….  Of the individuals who are here this evening how many would tend to agree with Jasmine’s statement?  Betty, do you agree or not?

Betty…  I agree with part of it. 

Arthur…  Yes.

Frank…  No.

Stephanie…  No that’s not the definition of a negative line of study.

Seth…  We have had two individuals who have said no therefore it is incumbent upon them to fully explain their reasoning behind their answer.

Frank…  A negative line of study means the participation in events that have negative energy. 

Seth…  What does that mean?

Frank…  It involves negative energy and experiencing it versus observing it.  It’s the down versus the up.

Seth…  Kaetorina, you may write your answer and read it.

Stephanie…  My answer isn’t going to be exactly what a negative line is because I can’t remember right now what we exactly learned.  It was verbatim but I did not believe what Jasmine said was what it is.

Seth…  Jasmine, you wanted to say something?

Jasmine…  I wanted to ask you so in my case where my life task is to rid myself of negative energy and trying to be happy aren’t those negative lines of study?

Seth…  First your primary task in this incarnation is how to handle negative energies.  It is a fact that all souls must learn this method.  No one who exists on the physical plane will ever have a lifetime where they do not encounter negative energies so your premises about your negative lines of study are certainly incorrect.  If you remember Lee Chang, he has spent 800 lifetimes and most of them were highly successful from looking at and studying from the negative point of view.  This goes far beyond what has previously been said.  An example here, the war with self helps determine how you perceive your lifetime.  An individual who decides not to have children in most cultures is considered someone to be shunned.  This is a simple example of a negative line of study.  That which everyone has but you do not, means you are on the opposite side of what has been accepted and promoted as correct.  The difficulty here exists in the translation of that idea.  What is acceptable in one area of your planet is deemed unacceptable in other areas therefore a negative line of study places one on the opposite side of that which is promoted and “enjoyed” by others. Another example, at distant points of reference it was considered acceptable for human sacrifice to occur yet there were many who disagreed with that practice.  Those who disagreed were doing a negative line of study.

The misinterpretation of the word negative is where the difficulty arises.  The idea of negative meaning “bad” is where the difficulty comes into play.  Let us now return to Arthur and ask a simple question do you consider yourself “bad?”

Arthur…  Probably, and in many ways. 

Seth…  Why do you believe that?

Arthur…  Well, I was realizing after what was said about self-esteem by Jerry that I was looking at self conditionally both when I thought I was doing things that would be considered positive and when I was doing things that would be considered negative.  That somehow, I had to live up to some external standard to not be bad.

Seth…  The idea of a lack of self-esteem simply means that the battle that you are waging may be classically put with the idea of good versus evil.  Religions play on the fear of many individuals who hold these beliefs.  Ruburt suffered from this dis-ease.   Let me add this to the mix.  How do you define self?  If one defines themselves as good you tend to promote prosperity, you will take chances and even when those chances fail, you still enjoyed the challenge.  The faith that you will ultimately succeed never leaves you. If you define yourself as bad, then whatever challenge you face even if you succeed will leave you wanting for you do not believe that you yourself are worth the effort that is required for ultimate success.  This is a difficult concept for individuals who struggle and are at war with themselves first and then the others.  A negative line of study is highly profitable when done correctly.  Most souls embark upon any number on these types of study in order to gain perspective of themselves and how they relate to and what their relationship is with others.  These difficulties when placed in a proper position will enable you to change that which you have previously thought about self.  In doing so you will then be able to promote the self that you so desperately need.

At this point we shall take a break.  We will continue with this line of question and answer and will eventually get to part two of the war.

(9:34 PM)

Seth … Let us continue.  Jasmine

Jasmine…  The most obvious one would be the one I had with Isabella.  Last Tuesday I was just coming out of the horror I felt when I heard she was with Tommy again and she had just gone on a date with someone else, so I was fooling myself that she was holding on to the idea that she was looking at other men.  I was feeling horrible because of the fights with Isabella and having dis-ease.  On Wednesday I went to the doctor and said I was very depressed.  The doctor asked me, “do you want to die?”  If you don’t cut this out and cut yourself from your adult daughter, you will die.  It impacted me so that I really made up my mind that I have to win this war of trying to be happy and rid myself of all this negative energy that I have been dealing with my kids point and I feel I’ve been successful in this battle.

Seth…  While I certainly will congratulate you for many of the efforts that you have put forth in this battle, the idea of what the war is still to an extent eludes you.  It is clear that in many instances you have started to exit your involvement with Isabella.  In doing so you should promote the fact that she must learn to stand up for self.  The same may be said that your belief system in self needs improvement.  While you have accomplished a great many things there are numerous instances where you have placed her wants over your needs, especially here seen with the concept of self.  The example is clear. You placed yourself at a disadvantage.  You allowed her to dictate that which you must do.  You were by your own admission, quite ill yet your inability to promote self over another is interesting.  You will counter with the idea that you did this out of love and the desire to help your child.  The question then arises if something gives you pleasure but is harmful to you should you do it?  The obvious answer is of course, no you shouldn’t.  When one places themselves in any situation where you allow another to create for you it is obvious that you have a lack of belief in self.  This is a war that you cannot win unless you take command of your own troops.  YOU ARE THE ONE IN CHARGE!  One of the ideas of time on the physical plane must be examined.  You have stated this, Jasmine.  Individuals require things to be done now.  There is a lack of patience, respect for others and therefore a victimization of anyone who gets in their way.  When one feels victimized as you do Jasmine one tends to become resentful and angry first at themselves and then at others.  You cause yourself great dis-ease.  The dis-ease that you cause yourself becomes more difficult to handle from point of reference to point of reference.  In other words, if you have a cold, it will get worse.  You are not promoting self and your own self interests.  In doing so you allow the other to command that which is rightfully yours.  While I commend your progress and heartily congratulate you on your actions today, I point out the fact that you have still not detached yourself from Isabella and if you are not exceptionally careful you will easily fall back into your old ways.

Jasmine… I realize that this is just the beginning but the fact that she’s moved out of the house is a very big help for me.

Seth…  I give you fair warning just because she has left certainly does not mean that your “job” will be any easier.  In fact, there will be more demands, and her requests will eventually become more numerous due to the fact that she is alone.

Jasmine…  Well, I think I know what you mean.  You are saying that she might ask can you let Krypto out for example and I will say no because this is part of what living on your own is all about just like I will not allow her to drop her laundry off.  The things that I would agree with will be the things that I would like to do. 

Seth…  The battle has nothing to do with Isabella’s desires.  It only has to do with how you perceive what the battle truly is.  That is how you learn to create profitably.

Jasmine…  Can you explain to me then about the storage bin… I forgot.  The battle is to put myself first, to promote myself.

Seth…  The battle is simple.  How do I show another that I love her even when I say no.  To be factual the idea of trying to promote oneself when you are ill is at best exceedingly difficult.  In this instance the battle raged around, I want this done now! Then my question arises how does this promote self by allowing myself to become a victim of another. You were certainly victimized.

Jasmine…  What constantly comes back to me when faced with things with Isabella, she just cares about what she cares about. 

Seth…  Let me leave you with this.  The battles rage around you. It is your decision and yours alone how they are to be fought.  Is it more profitable to lose a battle than to win a war?  As difficult as it is commonly when you decide to lose a battle your wants will be lessened and your needs will be met.  We will continue with this at our next meeting.  A hearty good evening to all.

(Session ended 10:29 PM)

Seth 400

Roads to Misery and Victimization

Tuesday April 21, 2009

8:35 PM

Seth…  Good evening, a pleasure to have you all here again with me this evening.  Frank what are your subjects?

Frank…  The topics are poor self esteem and victimization. 

Seth…  Before we get into either subject other than the celebration of our 400^th session.  Frank, what do you believe was the purpose of my asking you to select a topic?

Frank…  I wasn’t completely sure, but I did think about it.  I thought it was to move me out of the pattern of not taking any kind of risk or avoiding thinking for myself.  And I thought a large part…

Seth…  Stop there.  In actuality the purpose of the exercise was to prove to you that you have allowed yourself to fall by the wayside when it comes to creativity itself.  In reality you spent most of the three weeks torturing yourself and not listening to the man through whom I speak and Kaetorina when they consistently tried to push you back on a correct path.  This exercise clearly demonstrates one of the primary reasons that you get lost in the forest.  You become so overwhelmed with the idea that for you, knowledge and being complete in what you do challenges the very essence of your creativity patterns.  I have purposely left the microphone off since future listeners need not hear these comments.  Frank, you must guard against giving up to be correct.  You would have found the exercise easier if you had just taken the effort to provide yourself with the knowledge that it mattered not what you said.  When you reflect upon this session it will become obvious that both your topics were in great portion supplied to you by others in various forms.  (Actually, it seems that the microphone was not shut off and the comments above are left here to show the reader that those of us at the table all struggled with various growth issues.  Some of us more than others! F.N.)

Seth…  Under our heading of Change On The Road To Misery we shall look at the idea of victimization.  If one victimizes another the reality is that you also victimize yourself.  I have stated previously that the void and the scarring that one creates when you victimize another is always there for the victim as well as the individual who sought to do harm to the other.  An example here let us, in a hypothetical example, use the idea that one’s child is going to be harmed by another individual.  You as the parent have it within your power at this precise point of reference to kill this individual.  You do so obviously, victimizing our first soul but the void and the scars you leave behind will affect you for lifetimes to come. 

Remember here that you were completely justified in your actions.  The police would not even charge you with a crime yet you have made your own jail and will suffer because of your actions.  Note that I am not saying that you should not save your child.  I am saying that you will pay a price, and a heavy one at that for your actions. (In 2016 the issue of gun control is even more polarizing than in the past.  The idea that rejoining violence with violence even when protecting a loved one exacts a price is not even a consideration in the debate.  Not acting, as the reader will see has its own complications. F.N.)

Stephanie…  What would that soul be working on then if this was the most major event in their life?

Seth…  It may not have been a major event at all.  It may have been a small portion of that soul’s existence that was brought to the forefront of their incarnation by the play of the person of who you killed and or your child.

Jasmine…  But their suffering?

Seth…  Most of these individuals faced with this type of situation often retreat within themselves since they fear that their actions have caused them to look at a negative line of study that was unwarranted and unnecessary.  Again, this is clearly evident with soldiers who feel guilty when their friend has died in battle.  Their creativity patterns circulate around the idea of why not me?  Why do I deserve to be left alive?

Frank…  Wouldn’t the result be the same if the man took no action and the child was killed by the original person?

Seth…  Inaction does not produce the same response as action.  One could find fault with themselves by saying if I had been quicker, smarter, stronger I could have prevented this.  That is a victimization of self and not of another.

Frank…  But you were the cause possibly?

Seth…  Inaction is not a cause.  When one does nothing to either help someone else or to assist themselves, it is not possible to victimize another.  You may find fault with your actions by being afraid or fearful.  You may see a wanting when looking backward upon any specific event.  Inaction has its own set of problems.  One must learn to eliminate the clutter that surrounds most individuals who inhabit the physical plane.  Again, our example with our friend Frank clearly shows the clutter that he involves himself with when trying to make difficult decisions.  Do or do not is a simple method of removing obstacles from your path.  One finds themselves on the road to misery when the clutter becomes paramount in your moment-to-moment existence.  When one fears a decision, you are in reality preventing yourself from succeeding.  These individuals look at events and try to find every point of information that they can.  They constantly revisit an event.  They outline various forms of action or inaction.  In doing so they create mountainous obstacles that they have to overcome in order to see what their true path should be.  A decision is a simple matter but for most individuals they agonize over which portion of the decision is correct.  Do or don’t do, succeed or fail, correct or incorrect are the choices that individuals believe they have to make.

In reality the only decision that matters is whether one does something and creates what they choose or abdicates their responsibility to themselves thereby accomplishing nothing.  When one victimizes themselves, they become fearful of even making the slightest error. These individuals are unforgiving since they fear being found out as an individual who is lacking even on the simplest of terms.  Other individuals victimize others since they know their own weakness prevents them from even looking at themselves. They become so angry since they believe that others will take what they have because they “know” that they will never have enough.  These individuals are always empty; they are afraid because they do not enjoy the sunshine of existence.

Unfortunately, many individuals waste lifetimes on hating someone or something.  These individuals hate others who are a different color; they detest others who are worshippers of a religion that is not theirs.  These individuals feel victimized by their lack of prosperity.  These types of souls do not fit in with anyone or any group that does not measure up to their ideal. Their hatred is so consuming that they would rather end their own incarnation than see another succeed.  Victimization in any form produces scars and creates a void within the self as well as the other.  Hate groups abound when times are difficult.  It is far easier to blame another than it is to promote your own well-being.  No one exists on the physical plane without learning to promote the general good.  Each individual must learn to step aside, remove the clutter so that others may prosper.  Far too many individuals look at the idea of perfection as the end result of their desires.

Perfection itself should never be perceived as an attainable goal.  In fact, the idea of perfection should be left on this page and never again be sought after.  Imperfection is the driving force that will allow you to learn, to grow, to prosper in whatever endeavor you choose.  The old statement is true, one learns from their mistakes.  You are here on the physical plane to feel and to experience that which you already know.  The experience that you gain becomes apparent when you are not perfect.  I’ve stated on numerous occasions that the greatest gift a parent can give a child is to let that child fail.  My gift to all of you is to allow you to overcome whatever obstacles you find in your path.  The road to misery is fraught with danger. Victimization is one of its obstacles.

I believe we shall take a break.  (9:22 PM)

Seth…  Let us continue: The idea of perfection for many is a goal that when looked at drives individuals to unrealistic expectations of self and others.  Many individuals are so unforgiving that they tend to make jokes about the failings of others.  The parent who says to the child you only got a 97 on your examination what happened to the other three points is a victimizer.  The employer who chastises his underlings for not getting the perfect contract is a victimizer.  The man who demands sexual satisfaction from a woman is a victimizer.  These individuals seek perfection from others knowing full well that they themselves fall short in every aspect of their own existence.  These type of individuals force others to do their bidding.  I’m paying you so you better perform adequately.  If you loved me you would do this for me.  How can I depend upon you when you don’t make an attempt to try is the message that these individuals give.

There is nothing that exists on the physical plane that approaches perfection yet there are many who insist upon the idea that perfection is what one needs to achieve in order to be satisfied with their performance or another’s on any kind of challenge.  Many of these individuals try to examine every aspect of a question out of fear that they themselves have on that specific subject.  They fear that they will miss something, that they will overlook some aspect of the opportunity and the challenge that they have been presented with.  Please note that I am not saying that one should become lackadaisical or attempt to find the easy way out of any challenge.  Period.  What I am saying is that one must strive to understand the challenge in as many ways as practically possible.  By this I mean one must attempt to understand the intricacies of the situation itself.  In doing so you open yourself up for success that will allow your own creative patterns to enrich your being.  It is not necessary to understand every aspect of a problem.  It is necessary to understand that you may always come back to that problem and restudy that which you believe you have missed or misunderstood. 

Are their any questions?

Frank…  So going back to the original example, the man is going to hurt your child.  If you are seeking to solve that situation….

Seth…  Is there a correct solution to the problem so you may escape the problem without any aftermath…

Frank…  By killing the person.

Seth…  Or doing nothing.  Without any aftermath for either your actions or inaction is there a solution to that problem?  The answer to that is simply, no.  I use this example because there is no good answer.  It is equivalent for me attempting to have you give me the exact numerical value of pie.

Frank…  So essentially in that situation you do the best you can do.

Seth…  That is correct.  

(Our friend Frank asked if he could take a picture or two of Seth and he said fine.)

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  I’m curious about with Bill if he is taking action to try to find a new job but his feelings about self are negative and doesn’t feel worth anything good how does the universe receive this mixed message where there is action but self esteem problem?

Seth…  The answer to that is quite simple if you look at something but don’t like yourself how good or how profitable can you make that something?  The law of attraction here clearly reflects that an individual who does not like themselves enough will always be left wanting. 

Stephanie…  Then what good is the action portion?

Seth…  The action part of the question causes the universe to take notice of what you desire.  It is the belief in self that will allow you to stop victimizing yourself so that you may achieve that which you desire.

Stephanie…  Okay, so right now all of Bill’s actions are for naught?

Seth…  I’m sorry to disagree.  He is setting in motion waves of energy that will allow him to succeed should he change his attitude.  Remember he may be offered a position that may be barely acceptable with this type of attitude but will not be offered the ideal position should his viewpoints and attitudes be changed to a more positive nature.

Stephanie…  So it is almost like he is practicing the actions of…

Seth…  Foolish question leave it go.  It’s not practicing, it’s stating what he needs.

Stephanie…  Oh, so it goes nowhere because you are talking about the idea that things have to coincide…

Seth…  I did not say it goes nowhere.  I clearly stated that!

Stephanie…  Right so but what I am saying is things have to be balanced so words, you know… 

The idea of balance when asking or attraction something is the idea of perfection. The idea of perfection is impossible.  There is always some part of you or any soul for that matter that questions, that has difficulty with something and that idea of perfection limits what you obtain.  Stephen limits himself out of fear since he believes that he himself is not worth it.  Do you understand?

Stephanie…. So until he feels worth it there won’t be anything that comes his way?

Seth…  Again, you are so intent upon success that you did not understand my previous statements.  The question arises what is success?  In this situation is success leaving his firm and finding a new job or is success leaving his firm and finding a superb position?  The answer to that depends upon his viewpoints.  Do you understand?

Stephanie…  Yes.  So until he feels worth it there won’t be anything that comes his way.

Seth…  Again, you are so intent upon success that you did not understand my previous statements.  The question arises what is success?  In this situation is success leaving his firm and finding a new job?  Or is success leaving his firm and finding a superb position?  The answer to that depends upon his viewpoints.  Do you understand?

Stephanie…  Yeah.

Seth…  I think your question has been answered.  Frank?

Frank…  If I would like to begin to work with clients utilizing the point of power exercise what do I need to do?

Seth…  What do you believe you should do?  If you decide what you should do you will have to make the decision to do or not to do.  If I give you the answer what useful purpose does it serve?  The answer is…

Frank…  I understand.

Seth…  The answer is none.  It serves no useful purpose at all. You’re not asking about a technique you are asking about what do I do.  If you are doing something and have a question about what you are doing I can help you correct it if you are doing something that is not beneficial.

Frank…  I kept the question short to keep it short.  If I tell what I think I should do then you can help me. 

Seth…  Do it first.

Frank…  I need to do it first?

Seth…  You need to do it first.

Frank…  I will do it first and then I’ll ask.

Seth…  Correct, you must learn to think.  This exercise for this evening clearly showed that you abdicate thinking.  This exercise for this evening clearly showed that you abdicate your thinking and creativity. 

Is there anything else?

Arthur…  Can you give me any more information about the experience that I heard this name Hedalia that I have some ideas about?  I thought…

Seth…  What are your ideas?

Arthur…  Something that came up in a healing that was being done on me by a Brennan (Barbara Brennan is a well know energy healer and author.) person and we were working on an early instance of victimization and I asked for a change in the way she was doing it and asked for that person’s higher self to come in and I got that name Hedalia.  The next couple days later when I was meditating about it and asked for information I got a whole different figure.  The first figure was female, the second figure was male and I took on… I began to say words in a language I didn’t know.

Seth…  And?

Arthur…  I’m just curious or interested.  I don’t know I guess I am wondering whether, why I connect this with Hedalia or what…

Seth…  Why would you connect two separate events when they have no connection?

Arthur…  Because I was meditating about to get information about Hedalia and that’s the result that came so I’m wondering if that…

Seth…  They are not connected.

Arthur…  Right, how do I learn about either these…

Seth…  By meditating.

Arthur…  To continue to ask for information?

Seth…  Of course.

Arthur…  (Laughing, said something about not being sure how to evaluate what messages she was getting)

Seth…  That’s again that is your perception and the more you work with your perceptions the better you will become. (Seth then directed Stephanie to type the following.) You have to work with your perceptions to strengthen her ties to the male and female souls that came through.

Arthur…  I’m getting a lot of different souls coming through.

Seth…  No problem there.  Some could be spiritual guides, some may be part of your higher-self, some may be various other souls that you have encountered upon your travels.

Arthur…  So if it interests I just ask for more information.

Seth…  Correct.  Are there any other questions?  Let me leave you with this.  Before I give my final summation, Arthur, one of your great difficulties is that you are afraid to open yourself to the possibility that you can forgive and allow yourself the luxury of moving ahead easily.  A great deal of your problems occur because you become mired down in fear and one must look at that.  One must make a decision do I stay with where I am or do I move to higher ground.

Arthur…  I certainly waffle but have I not made some decisions (Not clear but the idea was that of am I making progress?)

Seth…  You’re moving towards the area.

Let me leave you with this: Victimization, scars whether you be the victimizer or the victim one must aim for perfection knowing full well that one can never achieve it.  Eliminate the clutter.  Remove hate from your path.  You will walk away from the road to misery by allowing your needs to be fulfilled and your wants lessened.  A profitable evening to all.

(Session ended at 10:15 PM)

Seth 392

The Story of the Preacher and Propping Yourself Up

Tuesday December 2, 2008

8:35 PM

Seth…  Good evening and a little bit of housekeeping first and of course as always it is a pleasure to have all of you here. (The beginning portion of the session was re-created from Stephanie’s notes because part A on the tape was erased.)

There was an old preacher man who has a congregation in a farm district and has been giving Sunday sermons for the last fifty years.  Every week the reviews that have been given to him are always excellent and rarely has he ever heard someone disagree or disapprove of what his lecture was.  One day a young parishioner came over to him and said, “I’m amazed that even for the four years that I have been attending Sunday services each sermon is inspiring. How do you do this?”  This is where the first question of the evening starts.  The preacher turned to the young congregant and stated, “Many years ago, I have and still have my own barn on my property and I noticed one day that the barn was starting to tilt to one side. I immediately went out and on the side the barn was tilting towards, I propped it up with strong pine and the barn has remained true and steadfast through all of the difficult storms that have raged about it and after some time I realized that I was just like the barn. I too leaned and needed propping up and I found that there was only one true person who could prop me up and that of course was myself.  So, my sermons are in effect my attempt to prop myself up which leads to the second question of the evening.  It is why do each of you routinely fail to prop yourself up?

One to prop themselves up needs to change their outlook. When individuals choose love they seek it from outside sources i.e., friend, husband, wife, boyfriend, girlfriend.  The view is away from themselves.  When you seek love from an outside source, there are always limitations as to what you can expect from that outside source.  These limitations are dependent upon the character and the nature of that particular outside source.  The difficulty here is that your expectations tend to expand and as they expand you are pushed further and further away from that which you truly seek. 

It should be noted here that I am not stating that these other individuals do not provide needed assistance.  They cannot give you all that you need or require since they themselves have their own limitations.  How often has it been said that someone cannot give anymore.  If you cannot give, then what do you expect to be returned to you since in reality you are demanding a return for your investment?  When one makes demands on others, the tendency is to become angry when they cannot fulfill your true desires.  When one needs to change to prop themselves up, one must first look inward toward themselves. It then becomes necessary for you to take stock and evaluate your own portfolio.  The first question you ask is, how are my investments doing?  What do I sell? What do I hold on to? But the most important question is simple.  What do I need to buy?  It is the faith that one develops in themselves that gives them the greatest return for your “money.”  The love that you give yourself is in reality the freedom to explore.  Which course of action is best?  Why am I repeating the same type of investment that I know routinely pays little?  These are the types of questions that if you love yourself, one needs to ask.  This type of effort allows you to expand yet you will be anchored solidly to where you need to be when something unpredictable happens and you are not prepared then, of course, one tends to be thrown as if one was riding a bucking bronco.  One is tossed from side to side and eventually desperately seeks answers from others.  The other here may only be a signpost. They may give you a map so you can navigate the uncharted path that lays before you.  It is routine that events do not move in a predictable fashion.  One should never expect the road of life to be straight.  Each sharp turn, each upgrade, each slope downward provides you with an opportunity to choose love over fear.  How have you propped yourself up to withstand the gale force winds of change? What measures have you taken to provide yourself a safe respite from the storm of life? Are you routinely reacting in the same fashion as always done? Do the same individuals hurt you over and over again?  What have you done to ensure your own success?

As our preacher told the barn is still standing.  It may lean one way, or another, yet it stands the test of time and allows you to prosper, love yourself so that change becomes easier.  Enjoy the winds that push you along and set you on an ocean voyage of life that will allow you to move safely from port to port.  

(A break was taken.)

Seth…  Let us continue.  I believe each of you must go ahead and examine yourself in detail so that you may effectively love yourself and give to yourself in a proper manner.  This task is not an easy one.  When one shirks from their responsibilities towards themselves the universe of course provides you with ample opportunity to test yourself in ways that you cannot imagine.  For example, Jasmine, I have told you that reading a book will give you insight into yourself.  When is the last time you picked up the book and studied it?  I do not mean read it.  I meant studied it.

Jasmine…  I haven’t been able to.

Seth…  I am aware.  Isabella, when is the last time you have studied that book?

Isabella…  Well, I have a lot going on.

Seth…  I find no reason to accept that even as a poor answer.  For example, do you have the time to read two pages a day to study them, to pour over them and to detail them for all of the fifteen minutes that it would take you?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth…  And the same would be true of course with Jasmine.  So, these areas that you push away make it far more difficult for you as an individual to prosper and you wonder why you still wait for a phone call.  You wonder why I am not doing it.  Well, the question is, you must love yourself properly before you can expect others to love you.  Are there any questions?

Stephanie…  Is this the same information as the session you had with packing your suitcase?

Seth…  No, packing your suitcase is when you know something is going on.

Stephanie…  Oh, when you know something is going on…

Seth…  When you see it coming.

Stephanie…  Like the Florida thing Jasmine was…

Seth…  Correct.

Stephanie…  So then…

Seth…  A great deal of this is; how do I exist for five, ten, fifteen, twenty years?  Remember the original story; the pastor had been giving inspirational lectures for over fifty years.  How did he do this?  You can’t routinely give a story or a lecture week after week after week and have individuals state that was inspirational, that was an excellent bit of information without loving yourself enough to provide the help that you need to get through.

Stephanie…  You are talking about digging deep into your pockets to constantly change with the times?

Seth…  What are your investments?  How are they paying off?

Stephanie…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Do you understand?  Are you doing things that routinely are detrimental to your own psyche?  For example, the person who over-eats, the person who bites their fingernails, the person who goes ahead okay and is constantly critical of others, the person who decides to examine everything without a purpose for the examination, the individual who gets away by saying, “Ah! I was just too tired, too busy, too lazy, to do something.”  These do not prop you up; these in fact mire you down.  These cause you great difficulties.  Do you understand?

Stephanie…  Right, so what gives the pastor the strength to a…

Seth…  Because he learned to love himself.  If I love me then I can withstand and I can change what I can and what I can’t, I will allow to pass through me.

Do you understand?

Stephanie…  That is really the key of how the patterns repeat.

Seth…  Correct.

Stephanie…  By investing in the other when you can’t.

Seth…  Correct.  Don’t invest in someone else, don’t let another routinely distract you from your path. 

Stephanie…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Isabella…  Am I allowed to ask?

Seth…  Of course, did I not speak to you?

Isabella…  Are you really not talking to me?

Seth…  Why would there be a purpose for me to speak to you?  What useful purpose would that have served you?

Isabella…  Well, I am sure there are other things I could have benefited from without asking questions.

Jasmine…  What last week were we talking about?

Seth…  When you give your word, and your word means nothing, why should words be given to you?

Isabella…  Yeah, but there were plenty of other times and other people that have not followed through and yet you don’t treat them the same way.

Seth…  I treat people the way they require treatment.

Isabella…  I mean, I thought not speaking to me was a little strange.

Seth…  I warned you; I am a very harsh teacher; worse than you. 

Isabella…  Okay.  Can you give me some advice and I have been doing very well in this pseudo new relationship.  And now I am starting to…

Seth…  Be careful of what you are asking now.

Isabella…  Why?

Seth…  You will understand, continue on.

Isabella…  And now I am all of a sudden having difficulty.   I really was doing well.  I’m handling it well and now all of a sudden, I’m having difficulty with the, I’m testing and the examinations and it’s very similar to the typing I just did.  But it is all of a sudden starting to repeat.  And so, I am curious, and I am trying to talk to myself and do all of the strategies you gave me last time but I am still kind of bugging out a little bit about it.  This idea of the phone call and you know I can talk myself down, but I am still having trouble and I’m just, I would like some insight at this point.

Seth…  Well, the insight first of all, one you are not going to like.  This session if you will is certainly apropos to you.  Our friend Frank made a mistake of asking about last week’s session.  This session, yes, how long would you like to type it for, and we are going to hold you to your word. 

Isabella…  I’m not answering because if I answer I am going to have to type it.

Seth…  You have to type it now so you might as well get the best out of it you that can.

Isabella…  Whatever I can…

Seth…  Why don’t we make a simple statement since you have enough time between now and our first meeting in the New Year.  I strongly recommend for some very obvious reasons that you routinely type this session as quickly as you can.  For within its pages, you will find answers to your questions.  That is the reason why I told you to be careful of what you asked for.  Do you understand?  In the strategy of what you are doing to yourself, you are not preparing yourself for that which you require.  If you truly learned to love yourself, would it matter if your individual “boyfriend” was too busy too call you?  Not at all but when you do not love yourself enough the change that you seek to make is a Mount Everest when in reality it is a small hill.

Do you understand?  Yes, you can speak.  (Isabella laughs and the rest of the group laughs as well.)  Do you understand?

Isabella…  I don’t really understand how I feel it is a mountain, so I don’t understand how it is a small hill.

Seth…  Because what you are doing is you magnify the problem.  When you are looking to another and this is in this session to solve that what you require all you are doing is expanding your expectations of that which you believe you need from loving self to fear that you are not getting it, and your anger grows.  And since your anger is growing what you then do is magnify and increase the hill.  So what appears to you as difficulty is simply solved because if you loved yourself enough you would say, he must be so busy or have so many problems that he can’t contact me or maybe a good idea would be for me to give of myself to lend him assistance such as I hope your day was as beautiful as I think you are.  I hope your day was easy.

Isabella…  I did do that.

Seth…  And he does not have to answer.  Did you do it at the end of the day?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth…  And does he have to answer you?  Or is it enough for him to know that you were caring?

Isabella…  It’s enough for him to…  The reason why I am having difficulty is because the pattern has shifted; now the idea of the attention has shifted.

Seth…  How long has this pattern been shifted?

Isabella…  (Laughs.)  Very briefly.

Seth…  Oh!  So, then it is not factual.

Isabella…  But the break from the pattern is what through me off.

Seth…  The unpredictability of life, that is in this session.  That is why you will type this session and do not wait to type this session.  For if you are not finished with this session by next week and you should a great burden might be lifted from your shoulders.

Isabella…  The burden of having to type the session? (Tone is kidding.)

Seth…  No, the burden of what you do to yourself.

Isabella…  I’m almost getting angry.

Seth…  Who are you really angry at?

Isabella…  Me.  I know that I am angry at me.

Seth…  Then stop!  That’s enough because you are not loving yourself.  You are not allowing change to happen.  You want it your way and only your way.

Isabella…  And the rational side of my head tells me, I know he is busy.  He’s opening a restaurant.  I shouldn’t expect to be the center of attention.

Seth…  But what do you “want” and what are you getting?  The want.

Isabella…  And he has given me no other reasons that he wouldn’t, you know.

Seth…  It matters not, even if he said to you, you have perspiration odor, and I don’t like the way you smell.  It matters not because this is a self-induced problem.  So, the more you dwell on it the more angry you become, the more you sabotage what you are, the more you push him away.  And this is the reason why in general friendships fail, relationships fail, marriages fail because of what you just described.  So, I would suggest you take the time typing this session.

Isabella…  May I ask about the vanity piece for a minute?

Seth…  Certainly.

Isabella…  Why am I having such a negative thing about it?

Seth…  Because do you love yourself enough to get past it?  It is not a his problem, this is a your problem.

Isabella…  Why is this, my problem because I can’t get past the balding hair?

Seth…  Correct.

Isabella…  But why, how…

Seth…  What is it that you are really saying?  What will others think of me?  Therefore, how about the fact that he makes you laugh, does that matter?  It does matter?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth…  Oh, that’s positive.  How about the fact that you always have something to speak to him about?  How about the fact that he shares?  How about the fact that your interests are the same?  How about the fact that you don’t love yourself enough and this is a major examination for you. But don’t type up the session quickly.

Isabella…  I know this is a big test.

Seth…  Let me ask a simple question.  The man through whom I speak is obviously overweight; I am not saying anything that would hurt his feelings.  Yet if we were to go around this table and ask do you truly “love this man,” how many people here would say, no they don’t?  So, looks have nothing to do with it.  It is the personality behind the problem.  And remember if someone…

Isabella…  Why am I getting so emotional?

Seth…  Because I am hitting home to a very serious nature.

Isabella…  But I don’t understand what I am emotional about it all of a sudden.

Seth…  When you figure it out but don’t type this session.  Take your time, be lackadaisical or will you have a burden lifted?  Do you understand? 

Isabella…  You mean as to why I got emotional?

Seth…  Yes, you got emotional because the truth of the matter is that are you afraid to really let yourself…  (Isabella became more upset.)  Well, that answered that question.   

Isabella…  Yeah.

Seth…  Let yourself go.  Remember sabotage works effectively. 

(A question was asked.)  I’m not sure I even love myself, which of course the therapists here in this room and her own therapist here have sort of missed the mark. 

Do you understand? 

Isabella…  Me?

Seth…  Yes.

Isabella…  Yeah.  (Isabella was emotional throughout the last several exchanges.)

Seth…  So, the question here arises, can you love yourself enough to do what you don’t want to do and that is to type this session quickly.  Let us see if you can put it together by next Tuesday.  You have till the first meeting in January.  Let us see if you truly learn to love yourself.

Are there any other questions?  Yes, Betty go ahead.

Betty…  Can you recommend a book?

Seth…  For you?

Betty…  Yeah.

Seth…  The Nature of Personal Reality. 

Betty…  Yes.

Seth…  Okay?

Betty…  Okay.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  I just want to be clear the vanity that Isabella is talking about is her way of sabotaging her ability to be open?

Seth…  Sabotaging from receiving love from herself.  Remember if you can’t love yourself, you can’t let anybody else love you.  So, if you are so worried about how they look, how other people will see them, what the nature of that is; or what Isabella has to do is to take off his hat and stop saying don’t cover it up.  I love you because I can scratch the top of your head.  I love you and I don’t want anyone not to know that.  I don’t care what you look like.  I don’t care about anything else other than the fact that I think you are a nice person and that’s how to love.

Jasmine…  But she can’t do that unless she loves herself. 

Seth…  Correct.  And that’s how you sabotage. 

Jasmine…  Even when she

Seth…  Even anything.  When you for example, do not answer someone back, when you become worried did I offend, these are the constantly repeatable mistakes you always make because you don’t learn to love yourself enough.  Do you understand?  I am glad that you do. 

Yes?

Frank…  How does one do that?

Seth…  How does one do what?

Frank…  You’re in the moment, you’re facing, or you are not facing the thing that you have difficulty with and now you need to gather…

Seth…  How about a simple question, why did you say that?  Why did you ask me that question?  Could you realize that question hurt my feelings?  You are always aware when somebody bothers you with something.  It is not a unique emotion.

Frank…  Say it again?

Seth…  If somebody says something that bothers you, why don’t you just say, are you aware that that hurt me or that bothered me?  Are you aware that made me uncomfortable?  What gave you the right to ask me that question?  Instead of sitting back, taking it and examining it.  Do you understand?

Frank…  It sounds like you are saying just do it.

Seth…  It is not a question of just doing it.  It is a question of if you are allowing someone else to bother you, hurt you, to annoy you.  Then the question is, why?

Frank…  Well from session it would be, for me it would be fear.

Seth…  Aren’t you propping yourself up right then and there?  If someone hurts you…

Frank…  And you say you hurt me…

Seth…   You hurt me.  Why did you even think that, is that not putting pine up against a leaning wall?

Frank…  Yes, but… how are you gathering up the love to be able to do that?

Seth…  If you love yourself, you are not going to allow yourself to be hurt, are you?

Frank…  That sounds to me like you then just do it.

Seth…  No, just doing it doesn’t make any sense…

Frank…  It’s like an act of faith.

Seth…  It’s like somebody saying to a drug addict, just do it, stop.

Frank…  Well, Nancy Regan…

Seth…  I’m aware who it was but that’s just say no but that’s not the issue.  Just do it has no useful purpose here.  

Frank…  Right, so what’s the step before?

Seth…  The step before is learning to love yourself.

Jasmine…  That’s the question he asked in the first place, how do you do that?

Seth…  It is not a question of how you love yourself; it is a question why do you not love yourself enough.  Because you are putting your faith into someone else.

Jasmine…  What made me today decide to say, so Jerry is not all that excited about it, but I really want to see Tina Tuner and I am going to see it?  What made me do that today?

Seth…  Because you decided to love yourself.  You decided to say I am worth something.  You may have said unconsciously let’s test the man through whom I speak.

Jasmine…  No.

Seth…  These are things that you may not even be aware of.

Jasmine…  I just want to say one thing.  I have no interest; I really didn’t intend to do it until I heard that comment on television.

Seth…  But that was a chance encounter.  That was a chance encounter.  (A chance encounter is when the universe sends you information through a person or event to help you along. F.N.)

Jasmine…  That’s what prompted me to say, this is what I want to do.  Why should I miss what this person is calling the most memorable experience of her life?  That’s what made me do it.

Seth…  But that is a chance encounter.  It came from you.  Whether you want to admit it or not it came from you.

Jasmine…  Okay, I understand.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Frank…  So, when you decide to face a fear, fear is the absence of love and by facing it you are then employing the opposite (of fear) that being love.

Seth…  Correct, but this you already knew.

Are there any other questions?

Let me leave you with this: The unpredictability of the road of life gives you ample opportunity to love yourself and in learning to love yourself you will learn to love others.  And from this simple statement it is obvious that your needs will be met, and your wants lessened.  A hardy good evening to all.

(Session ended at 9:55 p.m.)

Seth 384

Five Points on the Ethics of Change

Tuesday September 9, 2008

8:25 PM

Seth….  Good evening.

All…  Good evening.

Seth….  Pleasure to have all of you here again.  A small bit of housekeeping that we shall do, earlier today I gave Kaetorina in a semi-private session a great deal of information I have instructed her to type this information in as quick a form as possible so once she gets that information, I am sure that the man through whom I speak will be glad to pass it around.

That being said we are on our idea and subject of Change.  Change for obvious reasons can be either appropriate or inappropriate, if you choose good or bad.  One must learn that change must be held within the confines of an ethical system.  Now just for our purposes we shall pass around the microphone and each of you will give what your interpretation of the word “Ethics” means.  Betty, would you like to go first?

Betty…  Okay, I guess a system of moral principles.

Isabella…  Ethics are the idea of what is considered in quotation marks, “right or wrong.”

Arthur…  Right or wrong according to a belief and value system.   I guess I would also say it has to do with not, with respect and with not causing harm.

Frank…  Moral rules, guidelines that one lives by or tries to.

Jasmine….  An ethical system would be a system where people choose to follow, as Frank said a moral way of living, where they have integrity or they don’t have integrity, where they make choices for the good of all.

Stephanie…  Everything that people said and the word honorable came into my mind, just a system of values that would be honorable and integrity etcetera.

Seth….  One of the more interesting notions that I have concerns the idea itself of ethics.  The question comes to pass, who makes up the rules that one considers moral?  Who determines what is correct or incorrect?  Every society chooses for themselves what they consider to be ethical or moral behavior.  There are countries where prostitution is legal throughout the entire country.  Where you reside, prostitution is legal in some places but illegal in others.  What is the moral or ethical value of these type of systems?

Jasmine….  Could you restate that question again?

Seth….  What is the moral or ethical value of these type of systems?  So, my question to you is, if you are going to change anything one must do so in an ethical manner.  I find therefore that your ideas of ethics must be readjusted to allow you as an individual to prosper.  My first point here in terms of an ethical change is to DO NO HARM, and you may write that in capital letters, do no harm and underline it.  When one changes one must first realize that you are not existing by yourself.  Whatever changes you make must be viewed by others and it automatically stands that as you change so must they.  I have stated previously that as you change your past and your future adjusts automatically to the change.  Questions arise, if one is not going to do any harm it is your responsibility, underline the word “your” to contemplate that which you are attempting to change so that you do not injure another.  Now it should be noted here that one may give numerous examples where your change causes a problem with another.  They may not like what you are doing but, that is perfectly acceptable!  As long as your change does no harm, one does not need approval from others to change in an ethical manner. 

The question then comes to each of you, what if the change is necessary but it appears that I am injuring someone else?  Let us look at a simple example here, a father comes home and tells his wife and children that his company must relocate and if he agrees to go, he will get a promotion and a large increase in salary.  And he believes that it is necessary to affect that type of a change.  Is it ethical for him to uproot the other members of his family?  And the answer in most cases is absolutely yes, for the “harm” that his family members will say he is causing is transitory; it does not induce or cause a permanent harm.  So, one must be ethically sure that you do no harm; having individuals not like what you are doing is different from hurting them.

My second point to make an ethical change, again one must carefully reflect that what you do is to make sure that the change itself will make things better.  Change for the sake of change is often disastrous.  Individuals often believe that it does not matter what they do with the idea of transforming themselves into something else.  The individual who lives through his children and causes their existence to change with his will does not make things better, for he is inflicting his value system upon someone else.  The new boss in a firm who comes in and demands things be done in his/her way is obviously affecting change however, even if those changes would eventually be profitable the quickness of the change does not allow individuals to process or adjust to a new value system.  Many of you have often asked why was this information given now when you could have given it years ago and the answer is simple.  The change that I give to you causes you to reflect to study to contemplate areas of your existence that heretofore were unnoticed and unappreciated.  You cannot appreciate that which you are not ready for.  One must therefore allow individuals to move at their own pace so that they may adjust to the relative changes that are necessary in order for their incarnation to become prosperous. 

My third point in ethical system of change, one must have and show respect to others.  While this statement itself appears obvious, it is often one of the more difficult aspects of an ethical change.  How often do you hear a parent saying to a child you will do this because I told you so?  Even if the change is morally and physically necessary and correct, the lesson that is learned is that change is a demanded entity by itself and that authority dictates the necessity for change.  How often have each of you heard stories of bosses saying, “Do it my way.  I don’t care the way you have done it before.”  How does this show respect for another’s intelligence?  How does this allow the growth of a subordinate?  If you are an individual who always dictates to, my question to you is do you really like yourself or are you afraid that others will see you for what you are?

Kindness, which is the backbone of charity is necessary for all individuals who request change of themselves and others.  An individual who becomes so highly critical of themselves often finds it impossible to change since they effectively detest themselves and fear that they cannot succeed.  Indications of this type of behavior are often seen in individuals who try to lose weight or stop smoking since the failure rate is quite high with these actions. 

My fourth point, for any change to be considered an ethical act one must be fair.  Your ideas first must be adequate for yourself.  You cannot be fair to others when you are not fair to yourself.  Often times people expect change to occur instantaneously, and so the question arises is that possible for change to occur instantaneously?  And the answer is obviously, of course, for most positive change occurs instantaneously since the background of work has already been done.  The person who has been a smoker for years and states, I am not going to smoke and puts down their cigarette believes that his change was instantaneous which of course it was, however what was the background, the decision making ability that allows our individual to make that change?

Jasmine…  What was the background?       

Seth….  Background to allow our individual to make that change.  Did he do any reading on smoking?  Did he listen to news reports?  Did he see other people who were adversely affected by smoking?  All of these answers are obvious.  So, our individual was fair to himself because he incorporated all available information that made his change possible.  The individual who hates must be fair to themselves and when our individual who hates learns that it is a belief system that is wrong, one’s expectations of someone else (Jasmine asked for the correct dictation.) cause hatred to appear.  What are your expectations of this other person?  When they fall short one learns to detest the idea that they cannot give you what you believe you require.  It is the difference between what they are and what your expectations make you believe what they should be.

Jasmine….  Okay…  (Stephanie laughs.)  It is the difference between what they are?

Seth…  What they are and what your expectations of these individuals are that causes you to expect a return.  When they cannot give it one then states, “I hate that!”  In reality hate is not an absence of love, hate is the difference of what you do not have or receive.  Therefore, you are not fair to yourself in effecting a change where your expectations of others are so large that they cannot fulfill your desires. 

My last point on ethical change, number five; be loving and this area of change must be viewed carefully.  Physical plane love is not being loving.  When one loves correctly one allows themselves the luxury of becoming themselves.  When one loves correctly and you may review my lectures on this, one allows others to prosper.  Change that is done in an ethical manner allows you and others to grow, to experience, to enjoy the grandeur of the physical plane.  Your experiences within this context become manifest if you are truly a loving individual.  Each path that you choose to take is always fraught with challenges and opportunities.  When you find change that is necessary you will learn to love yourself, to embrace the challenge so that you as an individual will assist others who need to function in the same manner since their challenges…

Jasmine…  Stop for a second, when you find change that is necessary you will learn to love self and embrace challenges so that you as an individual will assist others, that is as far as I got.

Stephanie… Who need to function in the same manner.

Seth….  Period.  You will quickly note that their challenges will be similar to yours.  You will learn to lend a helping hand for that is the greatest gift that you give.  I’ve changed this way; I see you are having a similar problem.  Let me to be loving enough to share my experiences with you.

It is at this point we shall take a break: (9:07)

Seth….  Let us continue.  Since most of you are complaining that your hands are hurting, tired and falling asleep, therefore are there any questions?

Isabella…  How do you know if the change, I am looking up point two which was, make sure the change you are making is going to be better. How do you know that the change you are going to make is going to be better?

Seth….  Well, it is an easy task, for example if you go ahead and have a choice when you have information.  Is this information helpful to me?  Would it be helpful to someone else?  So, you can make a change based upon what you have.  But if you have information and choose to make a change where you don’t know if the information will be helpful or hurtful to others then of course one must research, think about and formulate a course of action in slow steps.  Do you understand?

You may make a certainly positive change for yourself, but would you make that change and the way in which you are making it if it hurts or harms someone else? 

Isabella…  No, but I think that’s a no-brainer.   I mean I think that is obvious.

Seth….  No, it is not obvious, for many people do just that.  They know information, whatever that information may be.  Let us for example state that you knew information that one of your colleagues was not doing the proper work and you were doing more than your share of that work and you believed that a change in this attitude is necessary.  Well, if one goes ahead and then says to everyone, “I am not doing this!  I am not doing this because my partner was supposed to be doing this and is doing nothing.”  That would hurt him or her.  Therefore, what you would do is you would formulate a plan of action to assist yourself by first dealing in a fair and just manner with the other. 

Isabella…  Right, I understand that difference.  I guess in terms of, I am trying to think in the situation with my ex-husband when he was trying to make a change, in as in leaving the marriage.  I don’t feel that was an ethical or moral change.

Seth….  Was it?

Isabella…  No.

Seth….  Was it hurtful?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth….  Was it a disaster?

Isabella…  Yes, no.

Seth….  Yes, of course, it was because you lost something you were looking forward to.

Isabella…  Yes, but I wouldn’t catastrophize it as the same as that.

Seth….  Oh, it was at that point…

Isabella…  At the time it was.

Seth…. of reference, it certainly was. 

Isabella…  Right.

Seth….  So, go ahead.

Isabella…  So, would there have been a way that he could have done that morally at that point?

Seth….  Of course.

Isabella…  How?  How could that have been moral or ethical?

Seth….  First of all, if there was a question that he was so dissatisfied, he would have then said to you, let us hold off.

Isabella…  Em hmm.

Seth….  Two, let us go to and I hate to use this word a “therapist” (Stephanie laughs.) or as individuals here know that after years a therapist and a pill pusher were totally incorrect in what they were doing.

Isabella…  Em hmm.  So, there was, okay so he could have gone about it differently.

Seth….  Could of or should of?    

Isabella…  Should have, however the outcome probably would have been the same.

Seth….  We’ll never know…

Isabella…  Okay.

Seth…. because if you made a change and he made a change then your outcome is not the same.

Isabella…  Right, okay, I understand.

Seth….  When one becomes so fearful, which is what you are dealing with, that one runs away that change is hurtful.  Does that make more sense to you now?

Yes, Kaetorina?

Stephanie…  No, I was just thinking in reviewing the points, if you follow these points for example within relationships, couples, marriages, friends, whatever that one would think you would always be living in harmony because…  But think about it.  If you are talking about change, let’s say arguing ethically then…

Seth….  Are you talking about for example if you would like to go into the city and William does not want to go into the city and…

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth…. you are getting into argument about this, is that something you would…

Stephanie…  Alright, so you are not going to be hurtful, right?  You are going to be doing whatever in a fair manner.

Seth….  And the word “compromise” must be included in your judgment values.

Stephanie…  Right, so that’s what I am just saying, I’m just reflecting saying that if you use these points within difficult change crossroads and relationships or whatever.

Seth….  Will your incarnation be better?

Stephanie…  I would say.

Seth….  I would certainly hope so; I gave you the information.  (Stephanie laughs.)  How you choose to use it is of course up to you.

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth….  So, what is your question?

Stephanie…  Well, I don’t know if I really have one, but I just wanted to comment.  When you said, you know that the idea of change is instantaneous, now I really understand that point.  It’s really not, I mean change okay is instantaneous, literally, but the idea of the fact that you have been working up to that change…

Seth….  You may have not have even been aware that you are working up to it.  See that is the fallacy.

Stephanie…  Right, em hmm, so…

Seth….  It is the inspiration that comes in a flash.  This is what I have to do, this is the way it is going to be, this is how I am going to change.  I will not do this.  I will do that.  That change is instantaneous from the background of all the thoughts, efforts and ideas that you have had over this and on this particular subject.

Stephanie…  Okay but when you don’t make a successful change then what has gone on with all those ideas, etc, etc?

Seth….  You were not ready.

Stephanie…  Because you haven’t taken the information profitably?

Seth….  No, because you are not ready.  It’s that simple. 

Isabella…  You only make the change when you are ready to make the change?

Seth….  Correct.

Isabella…  So, you can have as much information as you need, you can have, sit in a therapy session, you can sit here, you can do whatever…

Seth….  Let me ask you a question.  Let’s start with that. 

Isabella…   (Laughs.) Yes?

Seth….  Why do I ask you to type sessions?

Isabella…  To learn.

Seth….  And how many of the three that you have…

Isabella…  Two!  I don’t know where you are coming up with three.

Seth….  Oh, I will eventually show you the third.

Isabella…  Okay, because I only know of two.  (Group laughter.)

Seth….  My question to you is, are they given to you for a good reason?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth….  Was it a fair reason?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth….  Was it to promote you?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth….  Then let’s ask a question, were you ready to do it?

Isabella…  No.

Seth….  Did you not state clearly on two separate occasions that they would be done before the end of summer?

Isabella…  I might have.

Seth….  Would you care to rephrase that?

Isabella…  I definitely said that.  (Group laughs.)

Seth….  What date is the end of summer?

Isabella…  September 21^st.

Seth….  Are they going to be done by September 21^st?

Isabella…  Both of them?  Probably not.

Seth….  Will one of them be done?

Isabella…  Hopefully!  (Stephanie and then Isabella laugh.)

Seth….  Do you need a time limit to spur you on?      

Isabella…  No, no I don’t want a time limit.

Seth….  It is coming close.

Isabella…  Okay.  I understand that and I do understand that you do type, I know because it’s interesting when I have typed sessions from the past that I end up typing them when I need the information, so I do understand that.

Seth….  Is there anything else?

Stephanie…  I just want to make a statement though, the idea of the readiness piece, if the answer is always readiness, the lack there of then you are talking about that’s where no judgments come?  So, so…

Seth….  Should I judge you because you have made the same mistake as a therapist for the last two years?

Stephanie…  (Laughs.)  No but let’s talk about the…

Seth….  Should I judge you because you tried to force things down patient’s throats?

Stephanie…  No, let’s talk about this sociopath for a second, like the murder, the racist and all that.

Seth….  You are dealing with a completely different set of values.  You are dealing with someone, and I have explained this to you before where the switches are so open that the value judgments are not taking place.  (Seth has explained that there are switches that moderate between the physical being and nonphysical reality.  So, for example those individuals who have schizophrenia often have open switches where there is too much information coming through like a thousand radios playing.  Others may have other issues from switches being too open or too closed. F.N.)

Stephanie…  Okay so everyone other than those kinds of people deal with the idea of there not achieving…

Seth….  And even they deal with change because they want change in their way.  They put themselves so first that everyone else doesn’t matter.

Stephanie…  Okay, but the idea of making profitable change when it doesn’t occur, you would not say because they weren’t ready, you…

Seth….  Their change is perfect, they may have chosen that life, they may have gone ahead and planned out to be a sociopath or a mass murder or whatever and they lived a very successful life.  You’re judging by your set of values.  I opened this discussion up by stating if you are a prostitute in New York, you get put in jail, if you are a prostitute in Holland you earn a very nice living.

Stephanie…  (Laughs.)  Right but we are not talking about the idea of, oh they have achieved what they set out to do.  I’m talking about on the physical plane they are not being…

Seth….  They achieved what they set out to do.  Are they following…

Stephanie…  They are not following the ethical standards of society.  (Isabella said something that was not audible.)  So, none of this would apply to those people.

Seth….  That’s why their change is not ethical because they do harm.

Stephanie…  Right, so… so…

Seth….  What is your problem?

Stephanie…  So, I am stating because they have this difficulty, you’re still applying the idea that they are not ready to learn what’s more profitable and they continue on this path?

Seth….  Their readiness to learn is based upon what their life lessons and plans were, which may not have anything to do with what you are talking about.

Stephanie…  So then how does this apply to them then?

Isabella…  He says it doesn’t because…

Seth….  I am saying that some of it applies, some of it doesn’t.  Just as I could go through these five points, and I could show you numerous examples where it didn’t apply to you.

Stephanie…  It doesn’t, it wouldn’t apply?

Seth….  Parts of it do not apply to you.  (Isabella is laughing and Stephanie laughs in what sounds like a frustrated but amused manner.)

Would you like an airing?

Stephanie…  A what?

Seth….  An airing of your faults

Stephanie…  (Laughs.)  No that’s okay. We’re good on the faults subject.

Seth….  I believe we are about finished with that.  Are there any other questions after your statements?

Isabella…  I have a question, it’s off topic though.

Seth….  Anybody on topic?

Frank…  Yeah, I’ll make a question/comment.  So, the idea of being fair to self and kind to self would involve accepting one’s readiness?

Seth….  And one’s faults.

Frank…  Why are you throwing that extra in there?

Seth….  Because you need it.

Frank…  One needs to accept one’s faults?

Seth….  You can’t make a change without fault, why would you change something that is good?

Frank…  You have to accept what you are, that’s the same thing.

Seth….  No, it’s not but it’s okay.

Frank…  (Laughs.)  Okay.

Seth….  Are there any other questions?

Frank…  I have a question about a patient that somewhat fits in.  A woman that I have mentioned before who really really was abused and hates self and she has an aspect of self that she even fights with, she’s punched herself, she calls it a very derisive kind of name.  It almost seems, well it does seem actually that her hate is taking the form of a sub-personality.  Is that a realistic assumption on my part and then what… I would imagine that you work with this just as you work with anything else with kindness and trying to move that part of that person along?

Seth….  One must get… the first thing that one must do is learn to love and enjoy themselves.  You have to undo the fact that they were so abused that they hate themselves.  Obvious I am a bad person because they did this and this and this to me.

Frank…  Yes, I understand that, but she is getting attacked by herself at the same time and…

Seth….  Of course, she is because if you are abused and you are not a good person you deserve to be punished and who best to punish you then you.

Frank…  But that part of self is being objectified and even almost sort of not of self.

Seth….  I understand what you are saying, and I have given you the answer whether you choose to accept it or not is vastly different.

Frank…  I just want to make sure that I am saying it right.

Seth….  No, you’re not.  (Frank is laughing.)  You are bumping into a tree, you are walking the wrong way, you have information over here and you say, I’m going to go over here!  Try over here.

Frank…  Okay.

Stephanie…  I want to ask a question about my son Peter, he had to do an assignment to put pictures on his little journal and I presented him with pictures whatever.

Seth….  Why did you do it?  Presenting him with a picture, shouldn’t he be the one to find them?

Stephanie…  No.

Seth….  Why?

Stephanie…  Because they were mixed in with four hundred baby pictures.  I took out pictures, laid them out and he picked out what he wanted.  But I was concerned about it because he didn’t want me, he didn’t want Natalie, he didn’t want the cat, he only wanted his father and I don’t know, just sports.  You know, he is concerned about how others, he worries about what he will look like to others.  So, I don’t know whether he’s felt like the family, like if he promoted the family in his book that would be embarrassing? 

Seth….  Who’s he trying to be?

Stephanie…  Bill.  So that’s what bothered me.  (Group laughs loudly and then Stephanie giggles.)  You know because how does he; it bothered me in and of itself.

Seth….  Do you understand the reason for the not coaching?

Stephanie…  Ye-ah.

Seth….  This is all part of the same thing.

Stephanie…  But he doesn’t appreciate me.  He doesn’t appreciate Natalie…

Seth….  It matters not.

Stephanie…  He doesn’t hold us in any esteem at all?

Seth….  You don’t… what you are doing is you are trying to say, I’m kind, I’m nice, I’m loving, he should appreciate it.  And what I am saying to you is, he has learned the idea that to get his father’s approval to get the necessity of being what he chooses to be from his father, he will just honor his father.  That will eventually change.

Stephanie…  Yeah, that was very disturbing to me because I knew that.  So, but even…

Seth….  See, I wasn’t even there, and I knew that. (Stephanie laughs.)

Stephanie… at the detriment though of his being able to appreciate the others around him?

Seth….  Right now, he is so enmeshed in pleasing the father that he has no choice.

Stephanie…  Oh.  Alright.  Are there any other things besides what Bill has done whatever that could assist him in reversing it?

Seth….  Time. 

Stephanie…  Oh.

Seth….  Is there anything else?

Let me leave you with this:  To effect an ethical change one must make their needs paramount.  Follow the five ideas and when you become full you will find that your wants are gone.  I bid you all a fond good evening.

All…  Good night.

(Session ended at 9:43 P.M.)

Seth 381

Potlatch and on Being Generous

Tuesday July 29, 2008

8:45 PM

Seth…  Good evening.

Group…  Good evening.

Seth…  A pleasure to have all of you here again.  We shall start with a question.  I am not sure that anybody will know the answer.  There is a Native American word “potlatch” and the question here is do you have any idea of what it means?  We’ll start with you.

Isabella…  No

George…  No.

Frank…  Not anymore.  I’m thinking succotash or something. (Laughter.)

Seth…  No, not a clue.

Stephanie…  Which culture did you say?

Seth…  Native American.

Stephanie…  On, no, I could guess.

Seth…  Well. Go ahead go guess, see if you can get it right.

Stephanie…  I don’t know I am thinking some kind of you know, herbal plant…

Seth…  Yeah, let’s move along.  Betty, do you have any idea?

Betty…  No.

Seth…  No.  The basic idea is generosity.

Isabella…  I was thinking potluck.  That’s what I was thinking potluck.

Seth…  And we will look at this in terms of our idea of change.  We will get to that idea where it sums up a great deal of interest in terms of where you should be going.  Each of you and we shall go around carefully has shown bad habits.  Some of them are minor, some of them are major and therefore we shall look at the idea of bad habits.

What do you think is the most difficult or worst habit that there is, is?

Isabella…  In my life or in general?

Seth…  In general.

Isabella…  The worse habit that people have?

Seth…  Worse habit that people have.

Isabella…  Um, giving into negativity.

Seth…  Pass it along. 

George…  Persistent self-delusion.

Seth…  Go ahead.

Frank…  I don’t know, the thing that came to me was allowing others to do most of the work.

Stephanie…   Being judgmental.

Seth…  Betty?

Betty…  (On phone.)  Coming from work, addiction.

Seth…  Repeat that please.

Betty…  Addictions.

Seth…  Addictions.  Well, it’s nice to know that none of you have a clue.

Isabella…  Picking on others?

Seth…  Might be.  You can leave that out whoever types this session.  (Left it in, FN) 

The worst habit that individuals have that retards change is the idea of becoming too hard on yourself.  Now where does this lead?  When an individual is too hard on themselves, they view themselves as inferior and in doing so they prevent change.  When you do not feel that you are living up to your own expectations you tend to let events pass you by.  When you let events pass you by and you do not participate in those events you will find yourself becoming stagnant.  You also will find that those who tend to be harsh on themselves become angry.  They become annoyed and easily upset over trivialities.  They routinely obsess on one point over and over again.  Their inability to handle these incidents makes them a victim of not only themselves but of the event itself.  The man who obsesses about work who is in fear that he is not appreciated or not doing an adequate job literally becomes part of his own problem.  His inability to function outside of his cubical atmosphere, he makes himself into a cube and he puts himself inside it, so the cubical atmosphere becomes toxic.  He literally breathes the air of despair. 

One cannot change if you cannot see past your own difficulties.  Individuals of this nature have usually grown up in an atmosphere of intolerance.  They become emotionally and mentally stagnant.  Their harsh reality permeates their very being.  To alleviate themselves of these difficulties they will usually focus on a specific outside form of enjoyment or play.  They are consumed with a singular attitude that becomes pervasive and again causes this individual to exclude others from his influence.  The husband who becomes obsessive in this manner will constantly seek outside enjoyment such as going to the gymnasium, fishing or any other sporting event that can be done by himself.  The wife who finds herself in the same position is overly conscious of beauty.  She will obsess on the latest fashion trends.  She will seek surgeries to improve her looks.  Yet in both instances our male and female is so hard on themselves that they cannot and will not change their patterns of behavior.  They usually point fingers at everyone else and blame the others for their own victimization of themselves.  They are so enmeshed by their own ideas that they will sacrifice money, a marriage, a child to obtain what they believe are their just deserts.  To these type of individuals, it matters not what others feel, think or desire.  Their primary concern is with themselves.  They are often repetitious in their interests, common comments such as it is my lifelong dream to…  No matter what praise is heaped upon them they feel that they are not deserving of such praise.  They have great difficulty in taking a compliment when they know that they are not worth it.  They are willing to sacrifice happiness to alleviate their own despair.  These individuals seek to foster their misery upon themselves and then blame others for their unhappiness.  When change occurs, it is with great reluctance that these individuals who are so hard on themselves accept the “new order”. 

We started tonight’s session with a Native American, “potlatch”.  Change occurs when you are generous, when you open yourself up to the needs of others.  It is the encouragement that one requires to face the difficulties of a different perspective on the reality that you yourself are making.  One must be able to deal on a day-to-day moment-to-moment basis with the variables of physical plane existence.  The individual who is so hard on him or herself shuts out all but the simplest changes.  They are true believers in the status quo.  Native American children were taught and encouraged to share that which they have with others, but they are also taught to share their ideas about events.  The elders encouraged freedom of expression yet when a decision was made that affected all each individual accepted the decision and worked diligently to promote that specific course of events.  The individual whose habit is to be harsh on themselves cannot do this.  They tend to fall back on their old ways.  They refuse to see, understand, or accept a different way!  They are so concerned with themselves that they routinely ignore the welfare of others.  These individuals are very concrete, to quote a very old expression, “There is a place for everything and everything has its place.” 

Each individual must take a step backwards and cast off the yolk of the routine.  One must embrace the difference between today and tomorrow.  These type of individuals do not deal well with disappointment.  They take it as an insult to their very being.  They do not understand that not everything can go their way.  Disappointment is a personal affront to their very being.  They resent that which they cannot obtain easily.  Their job does not fulfill them no matter what their salary.  They routinely create voids about themselves.  They cannot and will not process that which disappoints them.  They adopt the immediate victim role and relish with the idea that once again the universe has slapped them in the face.  They commonly put their faith and trust in someone who does not deserve their blind obedience to that individual’s will.  The other often becomes a surrogate parent who will disappoint them just as their own parents have done.  They seek to analyze where they themselves have gone wrong in their relationships with others.  They do not have many friends.  Most would find it difficult at best to define the word friendship.  Since they do not like themselves the fear of failure surrounds them.  The world is difficult at best.  These individuals embark upon a quest for self-satisfaction which never arrives. 

Change is avoided since they cannot and will not look at themselves.  They believe they are being generous to everyone or anything other than themselves.  They are disappointed with the quality of their lives.  The husband or wife or child or children, their home, their status is lacking in one way or another.  Therefore, I most hardly recommend that each of you takes a step backward and looks at themselves and ask yourself the following question: How often am I too critical of what I am?

I believe at this point we shall take a break.  (9:24 P.M.) 

Seth…  Let us continue: How many of you during our break decided to take a small, medium or large step backwards and look at yourself?  I would hardly recommend that to all.  Are there any questions?

George…  Assuming you are one of these people who are very hard on yourself.

Jasmine…  Talk right into the mic.  (Some giggling.) It’s really hard to hear people (on the recording.) 

George…  Other than stepping back and looking, involving the fact that you are one of these people that are critical with themselves, how do you stop or start to change your perspective of yourself?

Seth…  When you take a step backward the idea is to first examine tht which you’ve seen about yourself.  When you recognize some or all of the difficulties as I have described them you then must review if you will the events that lead you to this position.  What was your family life like as you were growing up?  What don’t you like about yourself?  Why does the world disappoint you?  Is it not true that you commonly feel that you were robbed of your rightful place?  You then must learn to enjoy the natural order of things.  Are you capable of seeing beauty?  Can you relax and meditate, or must you be constantly on the move?  Can you take enjoyment in the success of others, or do you feel that you were robbed once again.  In our step backwards we must learn to reevaluate that which we hold sacred.  We must make an effort to force ourselves on a different path of enlightenment.  We will give to others generously and when we do, we will find that we will have more than we started with.  We will look at ourselves and learn to state I tried the best that I could.  I know that I cannot succeed in everything, but I am proud of myself for learning to try.  I will learn to put others’ needs ahead of my own wants and I will learn to enjoy my own failures.  These are the first steps that I will take as I step backwards from the abyss of disappointment.  Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  So, in the first six pages where you described this individual who you said was incapable of.  What makes you think they could do that?

Seth…  What makes you think they can’t?

Stephanie…  Well, the way you described it; it looks pretty hopeless.

Seth…  I am describing what these people do routinely.

Stephanie…  Right, so if they do that routinely what makes you think that they can do this?

Seth…  Because they are routinely unhappy.

Stephanie…  Right, so the colossal change that it would take to accomplish this…

Seth…  Let me ask you a question…

Stephanie… how would that be?

Seth…  Well, let’s stop.        

Stephanie…  So, yeah.

Seth…  Let me ask you a question…

Stephanie…  It looks bleak.

Seth…  When you have a patient who is routinely bothered and upset by things that they do, do you say this bleak, boy that is really terrible?

Stephanie…  No, but I don’t write six pages of what sounds hopeless.

Seth…  I am describing what is so you have a patient who is miserable, who is upset, who has spent years being unhappy do you turn to that patient and say you’re really a miserable person, you are so unhappy I don’t know how you can live?

Stephanie…  No!

Seth…  Well, that’s what you are saying here.

Stephanie…  No, that’s not what I am saying.

Seth…  So please tell me why you should be a therapist?

Stephanie…  The way you are saying it…

Seth…  I am not saying anything…

Stephanie…  Yes, you are.

Seth… it is the way you are interpreting it.

Stephanie…  Well, did you not say that they did not have the ability etcetera, etcetera?

Seth…  I said until they take a step backwards.

Stephanie…  So how would they have the ability to do that is my question?

Seth…  Is change instantaneous?

Stephanie…  No, I know it is not instantaneous.

Seth…  So, I believe that as a therapist you have now failed… miserably.

Stephanie…  How would this person take a step backwards?

Seth…  By doing so.

Stephanie…  And so how would they become aware if you have already described that they cannot look at themselves?

Seth…  By becoming so unhappy that they say what is wrong?

Frank…  Why is somebody coming into therapy when they do?

Stephanie…  I don’t know.  I am not saying that they fit into this category.

Frank…  Mostly your patients, many of your patients are just like that, some of them are even worse.  They come to you or us and they are now reevaluating that.  That in itself is the opportunity to step back.  And in fact, you are helping them do that, right?

Stephanie…  Yeah.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Let me leave you with this:  Nothing is hopeless unless you truly make it so.  Relax, enjoy, be generous, accept what you must.  These are the qualities that will allow you to fulfill your needs and lessen your wants.  A pleasant evening to all.

(Session ended at 9:48.)     

Seth 379

Hard Work and Change

Tuesday July 8, 2008

8:50 PM

Seth…  Good evening, a pleasure to have you with us again.  Jasmine, how are you doing?      

Jasmine…  Fine.

Seth…  You feel stronger and better?

Jasmine…  Stronger and better?  I am not sure what you mean by that?

Seth…  In your general condition, mentally speaking, do you feel stronger, more self-assured and better?

Jasmine…  Mentally I feel better and stronger, yes.

Seth…  Good, therefore you just volunteered to type this session, congratulations.

Jasmine…  Great.

Seth…  We will give you approximately four weeks to do this.  Is that fair for you?

Jasmine…  I’ll do my best.

Seth…  Make sure.  Other than that: We have been speaking on the subject of Change and within that context we have covered two portions of that which makes you a person.  We will get to the third this evening, but we shall first go around the table and have each of you describe what you can of the first two portions about what enables you to become better than what you are.  Kaetorina, you may start the two things for you.

Stephanie…  You mean that you talked about?

Seth…  Well, that might be interesting.  (Stephanie laughs.)  

Stephanie…  Um, I remember…

Seth…  First do you remember what they are?

Stephanie…  Well not exactly, I remember sincerity…

Seth…  And?

Stephanie…  I don’t remember the other one.

Frank…  Can I help?

Seth…  Sure.

Frank…  Commitment?

Stephanie…  Commitment?  Oh.

Seth…  Commitment was first.

Stephanie…  Okay, so yeah.

Seth…  I can see that you have been doing your homework, (Stephanie laughing.) and you have really been paying attention to what’s going on.

Stephanie…  I have, I have nothing going on in my life at all. (Laughs.) 

Seth…  And you haven’t finished typing the last session that you were supposed to.

Stephanie…  Almost, I’m at the questions.

Seth…  Almost is not complete.

Stephanie…  So, what do you want me to say about those two things?

Seth…  I’d like to know what you remember and what you learned from them.

Stephanie…  That you cannot be a whole person and succeed at happiness unless um, you act…

Seth…  You haven’t looked at this at all.  Nor have you chosen to understand anything that I (Stephanie giggled.) have given you.

Stephanie…  If I reread it right now I would.

Seth…  I’m not asking that (Another Stephanie giggle.) so let us now pass…

Stephanie…  I mean I understand what sincerity is.

Seth…  That’s not necessarily correct.  So why don’t we pass this along to you and we will then go ahead and give it to Jasmine.

Jasmine…  Okay, well the commitment part for me was very powerful.  It helped to solidify for me that doing for myself which is the key to my being happy here on the physical plane in this incarnation would be determined by the strength of my commitment to follow through on those types of things, not asking for help when I could do it myself.  And the other part about the commitment aspect was even hearing about it from points of view of others around the table, their, the things that they needed to be committed to, to help them change resonated also and made sense to me.  Such as Isabella needing to be able to stand on her own two feet, not needing to be cared for, giving up things that were painful to you and being able to stay with it, being committed to your plan, the plan you made us, create for ourselves, to reread those sessions and to reread the plan and I found that extremely helpful.  The…

Seth…  When was the last time, remember the work that I assigned you to reread and at least two times a week, how are you doing with that?

Jasmine…  I would say that I haven’t been as diligent as I was initially, but I have been reading it at least once or twice a week and my program I know by heart!  So, I will say it, I will go over it in the car very often and I know the order of it actually.  So, I can go over it and I do.

Seth…  But it is the reading that is meant to help for you.  Pass it on to our person who is…

Jasmine…  You don’t want me to talk about the sincerity?

Seth…  Well, if you would like to, certainly.

Jasmine…  Well, I just felt the sincerity part made a tremendous amount of sense because you can’t be committed to something if you are not sincere about it.  It’s like you know the person, we talked about it how people delude themselves into thinking that they are committed, and they say, Oh! I have made changes and I have made progress, and they really haven’t and they argue about it, you know.  And they try and convince themselves and everybody else that they’ve really made progress when they really haven’t.  The sincerity of the commitment to the change brings that into focus, that part. 

Seth…  Our friend Frank.

Frank…  For me the commitment is related to discipline, discipline to stay on facing the thing you need to face.  The issue of sincerity is the idea of truly being open and recognizing the need to make a change, to not lie to oneself and go along your way with that lie. And to essentially add it with the discipline so that you’re staying on point.  That there is stick-to-it-ness and honesty.

Arthur…  For me the commitment part, the first thing that occurs to me about that is my not squandering and to go beyond my comfort zone and to be dedicated to that and I don’t know what I missed here last week.  I don’t know if that was the sincerity piece?  (Someone said that it was.)  Okay.  And that was sincerity?  Okay so I missed that, and I would like to borrow somebody’s notes if I may.

Seth…  The question is very simple, I have covered two out of my three points about how to make yourself in terms of a whole or better person than what you are, to achieve your goals and the answer that Kaetorina who failed miserably in the past what were the two issues you had to cover and how are you doing with them?

Isabella…  So, commitment and sincerity.

Seth…  If that’s what you remember they are.

Isabella…  That’s what they are.

Seth…  Talk about it.

Isabella…  I guess for me the commitment piece, they kind of go hand and hand for me, commitment and sincerity.  But commitment has always been an issue for me, stick-to-it-ness, to be able to stay with something long enough so that I can reap the benefits of it.  And I think ultimately this commitment to change for me and the idea of committed change, committed change, committed change and the idea that I am not deceiving myself into believing that I am changing or making changes when I’m really not.  And so that would be the sincerity piece, the being able to be truthful to myself in every aspect about how far I’ve come and yet feel good about those things but understand that it is not a race and I have to remind myself of those things and not live in the air of deception.  And really the commitment piece, to be committed to the task that I have you know been reaching out to for help in my commitment to change such as meditating, doing beauty and happiness meditations, reading, reading “The Secret” and doing the nine points.   Which the two of you need to work on by the way.  (Meaning Jerry and Stephanie, Isabella had been speaking to Seth earlier.) And eventually starting “The Nature of Personal Reality” and so I just feel like all of those pieces are kind of coming together and I am feeling stronger.  And saying, being committed to saying the affirmation that I created for myself while you have given me one, I also have created one of my own that I think is really working.  And so, in that area I do feel like I am committed to change and being truthful to myself with how far I have come but yet how far I have to go.

Seth…  Betty?

Betty…  Well Frank helped me out with the word discipline.  I still feel very stuck.  I mean I continue to feel that I go through motions, but I am unconnected to a sense of making any kind of change and there is a part of me that struggles with apathy or I have done this, I have read this, but I just continue to go keeping one foot in front of the other.  Sometimes it’s one step forward, two back.  I’m in a stuck place with both.  I mean can understand it, I can look to the end of the problem, make the commitment, go through the motions, I’m not connecting to it.  And in terms of sincerity, I mean that’s my truth.  I’m doing quote what I am supposed to.  It’s not happening yet. 

Seth…  Okay.  We have dealt with the first two and it is obvious that all of you require the third piece of the puzzle for you cannot commit to anything, you cannot be sincere about that which you feel strongly about unless you are committed to the idea of hard work.  For without hard work none can succeed.  Within this context the delusions that individuals create become so massive that most cannot and will not find their true path.  (The group went back and forth around getting dictation correct.)  You will find it at the end please.

Now, when you are attempting to make a change, one must have as within a journey a starting point.  One must begin to look at themselves.  You must find the road, the cycle that you are on.  Have you noticed that for most events and procedures, ideas tend to repeat themselves?  It is this repetition that one must view and then decide to end.  If you do not end you cannot have a new beginning.  While this statement seems simple in itself it is highly complex. 

Stephanie…  You mean the ending of a negative repeatable pattern?

Seth…  Read the whole statement please.

Stephanie…  If you do not end you cannot have a new beginning.

Seth…  Do you understand that statement?  In other words, you are looking to make a difference, a change, an alteration, correct?

Jasmine…  Alright, let me just go back and read.  It says, when attempting to make a change one must have as within a journey…

Seth…  A beginning.

Jasmine… a starting point.  One must begin to look at self.  You must find the road, the cycle you are on.  Have you noticed that for most events and procedures, ideas may tend to repeat themselves?  It is this repetition one must review (“view” was the word used by Seth.) and then decide to end.  End the repetition of (Unclear.)  If you don’t end you cannot have a new beginning.  While this statement seems simple by itself it is highly complex.

Seth…  Correct.  What do you not understand with this?

Jasmine…  So just to say in my own voice.  If you want us to have a change, you have to recognize the repetitions of the pattern and or the ideas or the events and you have to decide to end them.

Seth…  Let us use a very simple example for you, Jasmine.

Jasmine…   Okay.

Seth…  Hold the microphone.  You routinely tell yourself tht things are too much for you, too difficult, too hard especially in physical labor.

Jasmine…  Okay.

Seth…  Give us a moment… one of the clear examples of this is the idea tht you did not and would not truly like to engage in a long golf game.

Jasmine…  Correct.

Seth…  Yet what happened today?

Jasmine…  I was able to play for five hours without a problem.

Seth…  And it was very hot weather.  That is a beginning because you decided today to end that which you were routinely doing.  Do you understand now?

Stephanie…  You mean she wouldn’t have done it?

Seth…   She would have complained, she would have gone ahead and come home exhausted.  She would have gone ahead and not only said that you were exhausted as you just did but you would have immediately given yourself further degradation if you will.  You would have gone ahead and felt poorly about yourself and how you played and what you did, yet none of this occurred because you made a new beginning.  Now whether you continue with that new beginning as anyone goes through this and most of this should be written down because you are missing the general idea here.  When you make a new beginning the question arises how hard will you work?  It is the delusion here that causes great difficulties.  The delusion is I am doing it but in reality, you are not.  One may say if one looks at a change, are you doing your best?  Now, for most individuals they would state, yes, but this routinely is a delusion since it is far easier to delude yourself then it is for you to be truthful.

Frank…  So, another delusion would be this is just too hard?

Seth…  A delusion is that it is too hard, it’s too long, it’s too… (Dot, dot, dot.)      

Jasmine…  I think the delusion here is that you think you are making a change and that you are doing your best.

Seth…  That’s part of it.  The delusion is that you believe that you are doing your best but when challenged, when challenged how many individuals become angry?  How many individuals resent the idea that someone disagrees with them.  That is the problem in and of itself. 

So, one must create the idea for themselves that they can, no matter how hard, difficult, tedious, boring the task seems, it is you who must plod along until you decide to create a different viewpoint.  We will take notice here of how Isabella has not decided to change her ways as evidenced by her last comments about her phone call! 

Isabella…  Yeah, but I have a question regarding that.

Seth…   No, you will hold that.  There is no reason at this point to go into that, you will certainly be able to ask your question later. 

Isabella…  It’s not really about that.  It’s about the (Unclear.)

Seth…  Of course, you do.  Again, there is no new beginning. 

Isabella…  But I am not usually judgmental when it comes to (Unclear.)

Seth…  It is the concept and the idea of what you are routinely doing here.  We will deal with that later.

The hard work that is necessary for change to occur is the first process that will allow you to commit to change and the sincerity that follows will give you the necessary ability to function in a different manner. 

Frank…  Can you give an example?

Seth…  You just had one.

Now, when individuals measure themselves, the question arises: How do you measure yourself?   And once again here we will go around the table and ask that question. Let us start with Kaetorina who did a routinely…

Stephanie…  (Laughs.) Well, you were misleading in your question.

Seth…  My question was not misleading at all, move along

Stephanie…  Ah, how do I measure myself?  You mean if I am doing well?

Seth…  My statement stands as is.  How do you measure yourself?

Stephanie…  Well, I measure myself… (Long pause.)

Seth…  You have no clue pass it along.

Stephanie…  It’s a very complicated question.

Jasmine…  Well since the…

Seth…  Aren’t you glad Jasmine decided to type this up?

Stephanie…  (Laughing.)  Thank God.  It’s a good thing.

Jasmine…  Since the last two sessions with the commitment and the sincerity I feel like a door has kind of opened for me.  So, when I am measuring myself or the progress I am making I’m using that, those two lectures as a standard by which I look at how well I am doing or how well I may not be doing and so for example with doing things for myself I am attempting to do more though I may misjudge.  For example, yesterday I attempted to make these two big things for a lunch for my bridge girlfriends but I didn’t have enough time to do it but I had every intention of actually doing it which was something I might not have done in the past.  And with my mother I am continuing to stand up for myself there with her which I might not have done in the past, so I am kind of committed to not falling back into the old pattern of Jasmine and the place Jasmine had been in.  So as far as measuring myself I think I am looking at the way I am measuring myself is by looking at how committed I am to changing.  The actual concrete things I am doing to make those changes and the sincerity behind them.  I mean one thing I noticed that I knew I had to do for myself but felt angry, so I knew that there was some waffling there because I didn’t feel good about having to do it but still I did it.  And the only place that I feel I’m really falling down is that there is some indication of some kind of turmoil that I cannot get in touch with right now is my weight issue which is getting worse.  And my eating is totally out of control, so I am not sure what is happening there.  That is a measure of some kind of failing I don’t know what that is but in my other aspects I feel that I am measuring myself well.

Frank…  I measure myself in two manners.  The correct way when I measure myself is when I really actually see what is and where I feel that it makes sense to me.  And in that way, I am usually not judgmental.  The way that I most often measure myself is an incorrect way and that is I find people or things or whatever that is doing something better than me, I find myself lacking and I measure myself in that manner and put myself in a hole.

Arthur…  Right now, it occurs to me that I measure myself through my application of self and my diligence but also in terms of facing fears or taking risks and I measure myself as moving when something new happens.

Isabella…  Be sincere.  I feel one way that I measure myself is how other people view me and I measure my work based on their opinion.  And another way that I am really trying to begin to do is to measure myself based on what I view of myself and that I am starting to try to begin to uncover the inner me and how I feel about me not being fun or how somebody else views me.

Seth…  Betty?

Betty…  I measure myself to myself at different points of time when I was either feeling better about myself or better about what I was doing.

Seth…  It is interesting to note that most individuals measure themselves in the poorest way possible and that is by comparing and contrasting that which you believe you are to other standards.  A sure sign of failure is to follow this course of action.  The reason for this should be quite obvious and that is a three-word statement on my part: Does it matter?  One cannot work diligently if you always have to look over your own shoulder to find the ruler to determine how you are doing.  (Isabella asked a question that was not clear.)  It is the same meaning.

Isabella…  So, it’s again the turning to another to give you value?

Seth…  If you have to turn to another, who are you giving your creativity to?

Isabella…   I think I made the connection now for what you were saying before.  The comment I made about the date tomorrow night was I feel like I am judging a book by its cover because what you were saying to me on the phone about having a Hampton’s share and this and that.  And I felt that he was very snobby and whatever.

Seth…  How about if he is just making simple conversation and wants you to learn about him?

Isabella…  Yes, but also but I think I felt…

Seth…   And then you became judgmental.

Isabella…  No.

Seth…  Of course, you did you just said it.

Isabella…  I’ll tell you exactly where I think I went with that, unconsciously.  But I wasn’t… I’m not worthy enough to date somebody of that caliber.  And so, I think that that’s the place that I went so in order to protect myself I made judgments about him.

Seth…  How do you value yourself?  By what standards?

Isabella…  Right.

Seth…  Therefore, the commitment to hard work must take precedence if change is to occur naturally.  You cannot change if you are always looking over your shoulder.  Does he have more?  Do I have less?  This is not hard work for the moment you embark upon that path you delude yourself and you continue the cycle that you are desperately trying to end.  How can you do your best then if you are fooling yourself into believing what your egocentric viewpoint has shown you? 

Isabella…  When you say egocentric viewpoints does that mean what we see on the physical plan?

Seth…  Yes.

Isabella…  So, what we’ve learned here by watching?

Seth…  It is not only what you’ve learned by watching.  It is not only learning; it is what you are having yourself create.  Remember, your viewpoints are commonly narrowed, your ego, which is truly meant to observe the physical plane and take it in, quite commonly is limited because it can’t give it away.  You are stuck with a viewpoint.  You don’t process it well.  You are not open to.  

Now, have you ever noticed that when events routinely continue and they tend to be repetitious you become bored, frustrated, angry!  Individuals tend to become depressed.  The “what about me” syndrome is in full swing.  These difficult situations inhibit that which you have tried to create.  How can one run a race if your fuel is low?  You become weary and you let others do for you.  The question then arises: Where do we go from here?  And the answer is quite simple you do what you have to do!

We will move over the tape.

To go ahead and deal with Kaetorina’s statement you just have to “suck it up”is another delusion and it puts you totally on a wrong path. 

Jasmine…  Her statement?  (Obviously there was some discussion while the tape was turned over.)

Seth…  Correct.  When one must do what they need or are required to do it gives one an opportunity for self-improvement.  The hard work that is necessary to accomplish your task must be found within yourself to “suck it up” literally means to accept what you have to do even if you don’t want to do it.  The resentment there leads one to failure.  One fails since you are dealing with a negative perspective of the opportunity that has presented itself to you.

Now when one is down on themselves because of events your inner feelings tend to want to make you run.  When one runs away the ability to create to challenge that situation is diminished.  That is why one cannot suck it up.

Isabella…  Can I say something as an example for myself?  Um, I get to a point in dating where, like I fail.

Seth…  What are you creating?

Isabella…  I am creating…

Seth…  Dis-ease.

Isabella…  Okay.

Seth…  Unhappiness, unsatisfactory results.

Isabella…  Right.

Seth…  One because you are not open to being creative and two because you are telling yourself before anything starts, I Am Not Happy!

Isabella…  But when I say I am not happy, meaning within myself or within whatever they are offering?

Seth…  Both.

Isabella…  Okay, so in relationship to this story about Jenny, is that how that is related to this?  Because in the sense of obviously judging her before, because that is what I am doing.  I am going in with this mindset of judging before I am actually giving anybody or anything a chance.

Seth…  Not only giving a chance, you are not giving you a chance!  Forget about them!

Isabella…  But how am I not giving myself a chance?  That’s what I don’t understand.  That’s the piece I’m missing.

Seth…  If you walk into a situation saying, “Ah, this guy is too wealthy for me, this guy is too poor for me, this guy is too heavy, this guy, this guy has a beard, this guy is bald, this guy doesn’t have the right job, this guy…  All of these are negative thoughts.

Isabella…  So, I am setting myself up for, for failure!

Seth…  You are telling yourself that things will not be good.  To our therapists in the room, to our patients in the room, to readers who will read this material, how often do each of you do the same thing?  So, the question is have you ended the cycle or are you just continuing it?

Isabella…  I mean it seems so easy to say…

Seth…  Did I not tell you that my statement before seemed incredibly simple but was immensely difficult? 

Isabella…  Yeah, because it seems so easy to say, alright I won’t be judgmental!  I won’t judge.

Seth…  But you do because your prior experience tells you, I don’t like this!  I don’t want this!

Isabella…  Em hmm.

(Jasmine said something not picked up by the tape.)

Seth…  Whatever it does not matter.  The answer does not matter.  It is the prior experience of that does not allow you to work diligently to create a change.  The hard work will make each of you a better individual. 

Isabella…  So, it is really along the lines of and I am not even just talking about dating, I mean just life in general, the idea that you really have to work hard to create or get anything that you want.

Seth…  That is the fallacy that most people delude themselves with when they read “The Secret”.  I just want!

Isabella…  Uh huh,

Seth…  You understand my nine points better now?  Have you read them? (They are presented here at the bottom as an appendix.)

Isabella…  Not all of them, no

Seth…  Why not?

Isabella…  Because I’ve been busy, but I am going to…

Seth…  There is no excuse for being busy.

Isabella…  Okay.

Jasmine…  (Audio not clear but had to do with the idea that “The Secret” did speak of the concept of work.)

Seth…  Yes, it does but it is not implied to…

Isabella…  It’s not implied.

Seth…  (Not clear but meaning: working) hard enough.  One of the reasons why Jasmine, I asked you how you were doing mentally…

Jasmine…  Right.

Seth… was to create a situation that you had to do work.  The typing is the work.  It is the ingrained ability that you have not to and I have now come to the inevitable conclusion that you have to!  There is no reason that you should ever attend another session without work.  And your tendency here is to first start to recapture that which you have let pass you by.  Do you understand this?

Jasmine…  You mean I am first starting to become self-involved.

Seth…  Correct.

Jasmine…  And I have

Seth…  And in everything you have that you have said tonight.  So therefor if you are becoming self-involved one must then integrate into you, how to make yourself a whole person.  And that is the reason why… you’re typing.

Jasmine…  Typing was a big turn off for me because…

Seth…  Work!  Now you understand why it is necessary for you to do the work because you must end a cycle.  You must end the idea of I cannot, this goes for everyone.  We must end the idea of I cannot and make it into not only I can but I require more.  And that is doing your best.  That is the idea that will allow you not to fool yourself.

Frank…  What do you mean by you require more?

Seth…  You require more hard work.

Frank…  I require the ability to work harder?

Seth…  No.  You require more hard work.

Isabella…  More challenges.

Stephanie…  Like bring it on.

Isabella…  Right, it’s the idea of…

Frank…  Oh! (Frank laughs.)      

Seth…  Do you see?

Isabella…  It’s the idea of the person, I have too much on my plate, I can’t handle anymore but yet when push comes to shove…

Seth…  They do.

Isabella… you can.  It’s like you know even with my situation with getting divorced and having to give up the child I…

Seth…  You did not give up a child.

Isabella…  Okay.

Seth…  Stop that!  Do you see how the cycle never ends?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth…  Do you see the delusion that you have now recreated for yourself?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth…  So, my question is have you worked hard?

Isabella…  No.

Seth…  No.

Isabella…  Not in that area.

Seth…  Are you judging yourself by other people’s standards?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth…  Have you done your best?

Isabella…  No.

Seth…  No.  Are you becoming rundown, bored, tired, frustrated?

Isabella…  Emm.

Seth…  With the whole thing?

Isabella…  With this whole issue?

Seth…  Yes.

Isabella…  With the letting go of the family and all that?  Yes.

Seth…  So therefore, you are fooling yourself.  Now continue.  So far, you’ve proven my point.

Isabella…  Okay, so in the idea that I, you know, you think like, like the tenure situation I was like oh, you know this is the worst thing that could ever happen to me.  It is so bad and then step up to the next thing that happens then it is even worse but you realize you can get through that and then something else happens and you realize you can get through that and you can come out on top and everything that happens really happens for a  reason and you know throughout the cycle of my life all of these things that have happened and I have accomplished, not necessarily accomplished but perhaps experienced and overcomed gives you a sense of or a willingness to kind of keep on pushing because you feel like you can do more.

Seth…  May I borrow that, thank you.  (Seth took the microphone.)  Jasmine, how did you end the cycle of leaving her alone and letting her create for herself this evening?  This evening!  (Jasmine’s response was short but not audible.)  No, you did not.  Therefore, you will continue to make her dependent upon you and Isabella falls into the role.  How did Isabella tell you to stop doing what you were doing?  You did what?

Jasmine…  (Not clear but short again.) 

Seth…  That’s correct.

Isabella…  Right.  (Inaudible.)

Seth…  That’s the problem.

Jasmine…  (Inaudible.)

Seth…  It’s not the issue here.  It’s the issue of who you are giving it to.

Jasmine…  That’s really the truth.  I mean…

Seth…  No, no, we are not dealing with your kindness.  We are not dealing with kindness here which is where you were coming from.  We are dealing with the idea of an interlocking problem.  The only way to unlock a door is to use a key.  What is the key here that you must use?

Jasmine…  The jail for myself.

Seth…  Correct and what is the greatest gift a parent can give to a child?  The ability to what?

Jasmine…  Do it on her own.

Seth…  No, to fail!  The greatest gift a parent can give to a child is the ability to fail!  (This has been stated by Seth many times over the years.)

Jasmine…  Well, when the child flies away the child is free to fail.

Seth…  That is not the same thing because the rope goes very far.  The tether is always there. 

I believe at this point we shall take a break.

Seth…  Let us continue.

(There was conversation that is not clear on the tape but it seemed to center on the idea of making change and Seth stated in good humor, feel free to make a change.  Work diligently at it.)

Let us move along, are there any questions?

Isabella…  Yeah, I have a few.  I’m wondering if you could give me some advice as to how I can start to change that viewpoint of the loss of the family, the house, the child and so forth?  Because…

Seth…  Ask a simple question.

Isabella…  What did I really lose?

Seth…  That’s one.  How important was it?

Isabella…  So, what did I really lose?

Seth…  Was the idea important of it?

Isabella…  Yes, yes.

Seth…  Or was it in reality the loss of the idea important?

Isabella…  I guess the loss of the idea.

Seth…  Correct.  And therefore, are you better with something or without something in this instance?

Isabella…  Obviously without.

Seth…  Not obviously.  I asked you as an individual.

Isabella…  Without.  Without.  It’s hard though because…

Seth…  Nobody says things that you gain from are easy.

Isabella…  No, you know everyone says obviously you are so much better off without him, this, that whatever.

Seth…  It is not a question of being better off without him.  What you are grieving for is the loss.

Isabella…  Em hmm.  But it’s not the loss of him that I am grieving for.

Seth…  It is the loss of… (Conversation is overlapping.)  I asked you a question and you answered before.

Isabella…  Right, the idea.

Seth…  It is the loss of the idea that you are grieving for,

Isabella…  Of course.

Seth…  So, when you understand that the idea has become more important than the fact you can then look at the idea in a different way.

Isabella…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Do you understand?

Isabella…  Yes, that I completely understand.

In regards to opening myself up more with dating and allowing myself to be more accepting…

Seth…  If you had never gone on a date.

Isabella…  Right.

Seth…  How would you approach the date?

Isabella…  If I had never gone on a date?

Seth…  Ever.

Isabella…  Ever, ever? 

Seth…  You’d be a little nervous, you would be excited, you would be happy because this is your first date.

Isabella…  Uh huh.

Seth…  Approach each date the same way.

Isabella…  Okay, that’s a good point.  But I…

Seth…  No buts.

Isabella…  No, because I tend to judge based on who the person it is that I am dating.

Seth…  No buts.

Isabella…  So, this is to pretend like that I know nothing about the person at all.

Seth…  Correct.

Isabella…  Okay.

Seth…  Correct and you will discover what you have to discover.

Isabella…  Okay.  Okay that I understand. 

And I’m wondering if you could give me some advice as to…

Seth…  I have been on more dates than you have years…

Isabella… the idea of…

Seth… and lifetimes.

Isabella… purchasing the home and…

Seth…  Futuristic question, takes away free-will.

Isabella…  No, no, I’m asking if you can give some advice as to, I guess, alright so in the idea of leaving my therapist.  Can you give me some advice in that area?

Seth…  Futuristic question, takes away free-will.

Isabella…  Alright then.  (Stephanie laughed.) 

Seth…  Anything else, any other questions?

Notice Jasmine, I am keeping the answers short.

Jasmine…  I appreciate it.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Jasmine…  Kind of about what I talked about during the break which is that an inability I have at this point to stop eating and I am not sure what’s happening.  It began, I think…

Seth…  Let me ask you a question.   

Jasmine…  Okay.

Seth…  The concept of being thin is seen by whose standards?  That’s the first question.  The second question is I assume you know the painter Rubens, Rubenesque women?

Jasmine…  Yes.

Seth…  That’s another question.  The idea of eating here and getting yourself, I’m putting quotes here “under control” close quotes is based upon the idea of the difficulty in change you have.  You have had difficulty in dealing with Isabella, you have had difficulty dealing with your sister, you have difficulty in dealing with your mother.  You have the greatest difficulty in dealing with yourself, so you are looking here for food at the comfort station.

Jasmine…  Correct.

Seth…  So, when you look for something at the comfort station then that is in reality not comfortable you then are repeating a cycle of, I need comfort, I’m going to eat but that’s not making me happy, therefore, I’m going to eat to make me happy.  So, when you realize that you can make a change by simply stating I’m not going to be defined by other people’s standards of what beauty is, thin is, heavy is, moderate is.  You have to be concerned and be truthful to yourself.  To yourself!  And however, you decide, whatever you decide of how to define yourself, you will then be perfectly satisfied.

Jasmine…  Well, I am not happy with the way I am.

Seth…  But you are not unhappy enough.  You have not made a commitment to hard work, to sincerity to make a change.

Jasmine…  I think that’s because of all this emotion stuff swirling around me…

Seth…  That’s an excuse.  We do not accept the excuse.

Jasmine… that I can’t.

Seth…  It is a narrow egocentric viewpoint.  You may choose to create that which you choose to create when you choose to create it.  And when you decide for example to weigh one hundred and twenty-one point three pounds you will.  If you decide to weigh one hundred and seventy-eight pounds you will.  It is what you are creating.  The difficulty there is to learn the measure of that which you are on, what cycle you are in and when you want to end that uncomfortable cycle and when you choose to end it, it will not matter whether you have had an argument with the man through whom I speak or your mother or your sister or Isabella.  You will not worry about how you look in clothing because when you will see yourself, you will always look good to yourself.  And when you always look good to yourself the weight will change because you will have chosen to change it.  Does that give you a helpful hint?

Jasmine…  I think I already knew all that.

Seth…  Well then if you knew all of that why are you complaining?

Jasmine…  I do have one other quick question.  My hair has been bothering me.  I think I may have discussed this with you.  It’s just thinning and there really is nothing that I can apparently do that is reasonable.  I mean I can have a; I can have hair plugs or whatever, but it is very, very costly and Jerry and I don’t want to do that right now, I am just curious as to whether or not…

Seth…  Stress and anger and aggravation lead to this.

Jasmine…  Well, this has been going on for several years already, I…

Seth…  Let me ask you a simple question, I’m sorry to interrupt, have you been angry, under heavy stress and malcontented for a number of years?

Jasmine…  Oh yeah.

Seth…  Okay.

Jasmine…  But that’s not my point.  My question was if I had this gynecologic problem which is coming to a head and had to be looked at.  A decision had to be made in July, this July.  In January I said to myself I am going to change this problem and I visualized, and I apparently changed some because…

Seth…  Let me ask you a question, are you not experienced in changing difficult matters? 

Jasmine…  I’m not so sure.

Seth…  How about your breast cancer that you never had?

Jasmine…  Yeah, well you said that was something that was going to happen to me if I didn’t make a change.

Seth…  And what happened?

Jasmine…  I don’t have it, I never had it.

Seth…  Therefore, are you experienced in changing difficult things? 

Jasmine…  Apparently so.

Seth…  Therefore, if you are going to create… create!

Jasmine…  So, could I, I mean according to what “The Secret” says you know you can ask, you believe, and you receive.

Seth…  And how is the reading of “The Secret” coming and how is “The Nature of Personal Reality” coming?

Jasmine…  Well, I haven’t gotten there but the…

Seth…  No, no, no, no, no.  Where is the hard work that is necessary for you to succeed?!  Show me.

Jasmine…  Okay so the question is with that hard work, with that hard work would I be able to reverse or affect my hair situation?  Is that a possibility?

Seth…  Did you die?

Jasmine…  No.

Seth…  You’ve answered your question.

Jasmine…  So, could a person can actually somehow create new follicles or…

Seth…  When people are dying know that it is a terminal illness and decide that it is not their time to end their incarnation and it spontaneously disappears is that enough of a clue?

Jasmine…  So, would you suggest that I visualize myself with fuller, thicker hair?

Seth…  Of course.

Jasmine…  And believe that it really would happen?

Seth…  Yes, but you also must have hard work to eliminate the stress, the discomfort, the unhappiness that you allow to surround yourself.  When you constantly complain you cannot fool the universe.

Jasmine…  Complain about anything?

Seth…  Anything.  Acceptance for you… (Seth tapped the table to indicate to Jasmine to take notes.)  Acceptance for you will lead you to a much finer road and you will end the cycle of distress.

Jasmine…  Acceptance of everything.

Seth…  Acceptance of what is.  The word “everything” doesn’t mean anything.  You live in the ever-expanding-now, your greatest power is now at the point of where you are.

Jasmine…  So, acceptance of?

Seth…  Your sister and what she is.  Acceptance of your husband and what he is.  Acceptance of your girlfriends and what they are.  Acceptance of your money situation and what it is.  Acceptance of!

Jasmine…  And that’s the hard work?

Seth…  Of course.

Jasmine…  And when I can do that then my stress will be lowered.

Seth…  And you will feel better.  And let us assume at that point you have no hair left on your head, none, you will be better, you will be happier, you will be content and it will not matter.

(There was some group chatter.)

Jasmine…  What happened to the being able to bring it back?

(Isabella said something that was not clear, and it is also unclear if Seth’s following response was to her at first or Jasmine.)

Seth…  I didn’t say that. 

Jasmine…  Why would you…

Seth…  I didn’t say that, I gave you an example.  Now the hard work is yours.  Kaetorina, you had a question.

Stephanie…  I was kind of mulling one over.  You know when you say the idea of you know you put an end to something.  You know you say it like it’s, you know instantaneous.  I know it can be instantaneous, but you understand what I mean.

Jasmine…  No, I don’t.

Stephanie…  You know you put an end to something, something that you know you have belief systems entrenched in it, you view it in specific ways, it gets validated in fifty other ways and bears out in whatever it is that doesn’t feel good let’s say.  And you say well put an end to how you respond and react to that, but nothing has changed there let’s say, sister, mother, whatever you want to say.

Seth…  Certainly, major changes have occurred.  You are looking at this backwards. 

Stephanie…  No but I am saying…

Seth…  If somebody goes ahead and routinely slaps you, hurts you and you walk into and say give me more they are going to do it again and again.

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth…  If you say that’s the end you will not do that to me again.  I will not tolerate that that ends it.  Does it not?  I don’t want to hear that from you.  I don’t want to see that from you.  I will not tolerate that.  That’s and ending.  You’ve ended.

Stephanie…  Oh.

Jasmine…  So, when I said to my mother, I’m angry at you I will continue to tell you that I am angry?

Seth…  That is an ending of accepting the fact that she must say whatever she wants to say to you and you accepting it.  Isn’t your stress level diminished because of that?

Jasmine…  Yeah, I think now it is, but I was…

Seth…  Because it is different.  It is different!

Jasmine…  I had a terrible day that day.  I was…

Seth…  So what?

Jasmine… heart-wrenching.

Seth…  So what?  Nobody said that these things are easy.  Hard work!  Hard diligent work.

Stephanie…  But if you don’t like any of this…

Jasmine…  Yes.

Stephanie…  That’s just leading me to what my question is.  I understand there is change and she is happier because you are ending that dynamic, but you don’t still like, you can’t still, you’re not changing them.  They’re just not allowed to do that to you anymore.

Seth…  You are changing yourself and how you are reacting to them.

Stephanie…  Right, but Paula is the same individual…

Seth…  So what?

Stephanie…  She will be the same mother to…

Seth…  No, she cannot be.

Isabella…  No, she won’t.

Stephanie…  No, she is not going to be the one who is going to use that language and all of that.  She’ll be the same mother who has difficulty giving of self.

Seth…  So?

Stephanie…  So, all I am saying is that she…

Jasmine…  But she will continue to speak the same way she speaks to my sister.  That will continue.

Stephanie…  Right and she is not going to like that…

Seth…  So?

Stephanie… That’s not going to feel good and you’re saying you put an end to that pattern.

Seth…  Because your ability to react to that pattern has changed.

Stephanie…  Yes, but she doesn’t…

Seth…  You are accepting…

Stephanie… like that.

Seth…  So what?

Stephanie…  But you’re saying putting an end to not liking that?

Seth…  No, put an end to accepting it.

Stephanie…  But how do you know that’s not going to make her unhappy?

Seth…  Whose choice is it to be unhappy?

Stephanie…  But if she doesn’t, she won’t get the abuse anymore but she’ll, let’s say she is unhappy about the fact that that’s the mother, that’s the sister, that’s what she is not going to get from them…

Seth…  Can you…

Isabella… That’s acceptance.  You have to accept that.

Frank…  Stephanie if you…

Seth…  I would have said that but thank you very much.

Stephanie…  Right, you are not accepting it.

Frank…  Stephanie, are you different, are you different towards your father?

Stephanie…  Ah, I don’t even talk to him.  (Stephanie laughs.)

Frank…  Therefore, you’re different.

Stephanie…  Sure.

Frank…  Isn’t that different?

Stephanie…  Yes, it’s different.

Frank…  Is your father the father you wished for?

Stephanie…  No.

Frank…  Okay there’s the difference.

Stephanie…  Right but I don’t like it and…

Seth…  So what?

Stephanie… and it is unpleasant and terrible.

Seth…  So what?  You don’t have to like anything!

Frank…  But it is better than being a victim.

Stephanie…  Yes, I absolutely have no argument there.  I’m just stating that…

Seth…  You are arguing this because I don’t like something, therefore how is it ending?

Stephanie…  No, you’re stating put an end to the repeated pattern of feeling miserable about that you don’t like it.

Seth…  No, I never stated that.  You stated that.

Stephanie…  What you’re stating is if you are in, if you get into a pattern of accepting people…

Seth…  If you get into a pattern of accepting somebody hurting you…

Stephanie…  No, I don’t, I am not talking about that part of things.  I understand all that.  I agree with that.  That is not what I am saying.  The pattern I’m falling into is I don’t like the status of it.  I understand I am better off, all this other stuff.  I don’t like that the reality is what it is.

Seth…  So.

Stephanie…  I don’t have to like that.

Seth…  Why do you have to like anything?

Stephanie…  That doesn’t make me happy.

Seth…  Why do you have to be happy if something displeases you?  You have to learn to accept what is…

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth… and not be affected by it.

Stephanie…  So, if half of my family falls short and I don’t like them…

Seth…  So what?

Stephanie…  That’s easy for you to say. (Laughing.)

Seth…  No…

Stephanie…  You’re not here.

Frank…  No.

Seth…  No, that is not the issue.

Frank….  But if you’re wishing for them not to fall short as opposed to saying, I now know that they fall short, I don’t get what I need from them…

Stephanie…  Right.

Frank… so what am I going to do?  Well, perhaps I will concentrate more on my own family, perhaps I’ll concentrate on what I get from friends, and they won’t fall short.  You can’t make somebody else be what you wish.

Stephanie…  I know you don’t have to like it.

Frank…  It’s the not liking it that is going to make you move in another direction to get what you need.

Stephanie…  By those people.

Frank…  No, not from those people possibly.

Seth…  By not liking it keeps you in a position of want.  I want them to.

Betty…  Is there a way to look at what you possibly can get?  It may not be what you want but it could be something.

Seth…  Correct.

Betty…  Isn’t it a all or nothing situation and it’s just owning that my expectations may be more than what these people can give but I can get this from them?

Seth…  Correct.

Isabella…  I have a question about meditation.

Seth…  Yes, meditations.

Isabella…  I am really enjoying them obviously and they are definitely giving me tremendous pleasure.  There are moments where I am meditating maybe a beauty meditation and something in my mind will come in that will disrupt the beauty almost to the point of like horror.  And…

Seth…  Are you worthy of beauty?

Isabella…  But it has only happened once or twice.

Seth…  It matters not.  That is the point, what you then do is you refocus yourself…

Isabella…  Em hmm.

Seth… push that away which no longer serves you…

Isabella…  Right, which I did.

Seth… and then go on.

Isabella…  And I go back to the beauty meditation.

Seth…  Correct.

Isabella…  And just every time something like that comes in push it out and then come back to the now.

Seth…  And know that you are worthy of beauty.

Isabella…  Okay.

 I’m curious if you can give me a little bit of insight as to the significance of the happiness and the beauty meditation?

Seth…  Not at this point of reference but I will.

Let me leave you with this: You have the ability now to understand that which will make you a better person.  The three factors, use them carefully, understand them, factor each one of those ideas into your actions.  Remember, one must always speak slowly but think quickly.  In doing so you will learn to fulfill your needs, you will give yourself a higher purpose, your wants will lessen and the beauty that surrounds you will shine through.  I give you a pleasant good evening.

(Session ended at 10:25) 

Seth’s Nine Points Regarding “The Secret”

Seth said the following “The book and movie The Secret are commercially successful since it allows the average soul to gather unto him or herself that which they believe that they want!  The author uses the word want in various reference points the first being need or that which one believes that they require and the second being that which they believe that they want.  I will explain it from a different level so you as an individual can profit.  I have consistently stated the following:”

1.      You are what you create.  This statement by Seth means that everything that goes on in your existence is caused by your actions. The word action here means the things that you think, say, or do.  Therefore, when positive or negative things occur you must take responsibility for them. 

2.      You are responsible for your own creations.  This means that when an event occurs either positive or negative you own it.  Therefore, you cannot blame another for anything that has occurred.  Subsequently, when something happens that you are dissatisfied with, it is up to you and you alone to take appropriate actions to change that outcome.  Remember nothing happens instantaneously and there are no coincidences. 

3.      Your creations always are in combination with others.  Seth has always commented on the fact that “no man is an island”.  This means that you are not alone in the universe and therefore all of your creations (events, happenings) are in combination with everyone else’s.   Things that you believe only involve you in reality do not, because nothing occurs in a vacuum.  This is why when one is having difficulty one must seek assistance from others.  What you do affects others, and what others do affects you.  Remember there are consequences to all actions, good or bad. 

4.      You are the star of your own play.  This means that no matter how important you think that someone else is to you, you must realize that it is you who makes choices and decisions that directly concern you.  No one else can force you to do anything that you truly don’t want to do.  You must take responsibility for all that goes on around you because you are running the show.  In light of this fact when you are feeling like you are being victimized it is still up to you and you alone to change this reality because you are the star of your own play. 

5.      The others are the stars of their own play.  In other words, this is the direct reverse of number four.  No one therefore can blame you for their problems or successes because it is their play, and they are the star. 

6.      You are a bit player in another’s play.   This means that someone else should not make you so important in their lives that you end up responsible for them and their creations. In reality, you only have but a small part in whatever events have occurred to someone else.  This does not mean that you are not important or do not have influence with someone else, it just means that they are ultimately responsible for what is going on in their lives.  

7.      The others are but bit players in your play.  This again is the opposite of number six.  In other words, you cannot blame someone else for your problems even when they are directly related to them, or you believe they are the cause. 

8.      The more individual souls that you deal with the greater the complexity of the line of study that you have indeed embarked upon.   This means that the bigger your problem becomes, you will notice that more and more individuals become involved in your play.  The words line of study means what you are presently dealing with or are interested in whether it’s positive or negative.  There are many individuals who are interested or studying the same ideas.  They can move in and out of your life depending on what you are bringing into yours.  As you work to solve your difficulties you will notice the number of individuals involved become less.  For example, have you ever noticed that someone came into your life and helped you work out a problem, even if it took years and when the problem was finally done the person seems to disappear from your life? 9.      The law of attraction is dependent upon the other eight factors!  One must understand that you cannot simply wish for something to occur.  You must take action to make it real.  In being able to make a change one must incorporate all of the above in doing so.  If you realize that you are unhappy with anything in your life one must ask themselves a question: Why am I attracting this situation? In beginning to solve this one must study self first and only self in order to make a change.

Seth 366

On Loneliness and What is an Identical?

 Tuesday March 25, 2008

8:30 P.M.

Seth…  Good evening.  A pleasure to have all of you here again.  A little bit of housekeeping: Isabella, I remember I gave you one more week and then I would strongly suggest that you do at least ten pages a week from The Secret with the man through whom I speak so that you can get that over and done with.  And speaking of ten pages a week, make sure you (I believe directed towards Jasmine.) do it too because right now you are in need of that book.

That being stated, I am going to go into our idea of Change again.  I’m going to cover, whether it be in one night or many nights, four distinct points.  I am going to deal with feeling lonely or being lonely.  I am going to cover being grounded, how you settle yourself and I am going to deal with how do you step back from anger which will all lead to the idea of how you build upon your past and change it if necessary.

Jasmine…  That’s the fourth point?

Seth…  Correct. 

Jasmine…  How do you build upon…

Seth…  Build upon your past or change it if necessary.

Jasmine…  Your past…

Seth…  Yes, the word is p… a…s…t.  Now that being stated unless it is an absolute necessity, I believe that it would be far more profitable for each of you that if you have a question, write it down.  And we will then go ahead and answer them once I get through with a portion of my material.

Isabella…  Nobody is asking anything tonight.  (Group laughter.)

Seth…  I will demand that they ask quite a bit since you are typing the session.  So, everyone must ask at least three to five questions.

Isabella…  No! (More laughter.)

Seth…  On topic or off.

George…  Probably both.  (Laughs)

Seth…  Now, the concept of being alone requires a working definition from each of you.  And I believe that it is important that we get it, so we have some sense of to where each of you relates to the statement.  Betty?

Betty…  Ah, definition of?

Seth…  Lonely.

Betty…  Alone?

Seth…  Yes.

Betty…  Um, not being in the company of others.

Seth…  Fine.  George and then pass the microphone.

George…  Ah, of being disconnected from others, from everyone around you.

Seth…  Disconnected. 

Isabella…  Um, feeling secluded both emotionally and physically from people.

Arthur…  Not having others to transact with and exchange with.

Frank…  Longing to be with others and at times feeling abandoned when not.

Jasmine…  I think I see it in a more negative way than most people have expressed.

Frank…  (Said softly.)  Abandoned is pretty strong.

Jasmine…  Well other than you Frank.  (Frank laughs.)  Other than you.  Unfulfilled, lonely, sad, those kind of thoughts.

Stephanie…  The idea of being alone or lonely?

Seth…  Both.

Stephanie…  I mean, you know there are times when I love to be alone so that would be a good thing, being alone.  I enjoy being alone at times.  And then the lonely would be where there would be a need for others.  But yet feeling millions of miles away from another.

Seth…  All this being stated, there are three portions of loneliness that we must delve into.  The first physical plane and the second which is higher realm has two portions, the third being the majority of individual souls and the second being a type of soul that is rare, not unheard of but rare that for our purposes here we shall call “Identicals”.  I do not mean twins, I mean identicals.  Let us start with the physical plane idea.  First you relate to the idea of being alone as isolated, something that you do not have.  The difficulty here is simplistic in and of itself.  Are you alone?  If you turn on a T.V. or a radio program and listen to it, it has been noted by your scientist that background noise is important for mental functioning on higher levels.

Jasmine…  Is important for?

Seth…  Mental functioning on higher levels.  Silence removes you from the outside which leads to the concept of poor communication.  I have recently asked a question.  Which is worse, being in a home with someone who you do not understand or communicate with or being alone by yourself?  Now, the answer is obvious.  Most individuals initially feel that being alone is worse.  Yet I tell you this being within a community atmosphere such as a stadium filled with individuals or being with one other person that you do not relate to or understand or communicate well with is far more detrimental to your health and wellbeing than you could possibly imagine.  Anger is usually the result of that intermixing of facts. 

Let me give you an example taken from the man through whom I speak.  Give us a moment.  A number of years ago both he and Jasmine were invited to a religious ceremony, a coming of age of a Jewish child and they went to this temple that was full of very devoutly religious individuals.  The service goes on, the child does their part well and finally the service ends.  And when this service ended everybody congratulates each other for the Saturday holiday and the man through whom I speak of course had been separated from Jasmine and many individuals reached over him and congratulated their friends and hugged them.  Yet not one of these individuals said one word to the man though whom I speak.  His sense of utter loneliness quickly led to outrage and anger.  How he dealt with it matters not.  (Jerry who knows how to stand up for himself spoke to the Rabbi. F.N.)

Yet the human condition quite often deals with loneliness on massive levels.  It is known that there is a large increase in suicides during your holiday periods.  The despair that individuals feel is obvious.  Yet quite often individuals isolate themselves.  They become almost invisible to the outside world, and they wonder why they are unhappy.  They turn to addictive behavior since they cannot function in any profitable manner.  Individuals who complain constantly who find unhappiness wherever they turn clearly demonstrate the fact that they have isolated themselves from the community that they are in.  Addiction to unhappiness of feeling poorly becomes rampant when you look through narrowed eyes because your conscious mind has been focused solely on a narrow beam of thought.  You refuse to allow your conscious mind to function adequately.  You prevent information from inner frameworks to come thorough to counterbalance your narrow point of view.  Physical plane loneliness is a byproduct of fear.  In reality of course, you can never be truly alone.  When you narrow your view, when you close off your hearing, when you restrict your speech individuals then wonder why things or events do not have flavor.  The food of life, the experience of the physical plane becomes bland, tasteless if you will. 

One must then look to higher realms for a difference in understanding.  Each individual soul when you have been created from The All That Is embarks upon a journey.  Physical plane gives you experience, yet on higher realms it is impossible for you to be alone.  First, you are obviously part of The All There Is and second, since the “All There That Is” is and there is no place, no dimension that The All There Is does not exist in, it therefore becomes impossible for you (the individual soul) to ever be alone.  Your classroom or home is filled with students, teachers, guides, masters who never judge but only instruct.  It is not a moment that you could imagine when you are truly alone.  Therefore, the difficulties that you believe you have here are due to the erroneous belief that you can isolate yourself, first from yourself and second from everything else.  A note here, there are many instances where an individual soul chooses to study by themselves but that does not mean that they are alone or isolated.  What you have on the physical plane is the idea that I can truly not exist alone, and you cannot.  You cannot exist alone!  The belief is that you can.

When you are feeling worthless or unloved you delude yourself by cutting off communication from yourself and this action causes great dis-ease.  Again, you can never be truly alone but you can make yourself lonely.  When you do not feel loved you are making yourself feel lonely.

The next idea, and it is a complicated one to say the least is the idea of identicals.  I have made reference to them in the past and we will see if we can put some of this into a perspective that you can understand.  When an identical is created there is one individual that starts.  Yet this one individual as in the sense of human procreation splits but there is still a connection therefore from one there were two.

Jasmine…  You’re talking about souls?

Seth…  Correct.  Yet there is one.  These individuals go through many higher realms until they find themselves as one again.  To make this even more delicate, let us assume you have an identical part A and part B since they are an identical, half of A is always in half of B yet half of B is always half of A.  These individuals most commonly do not incarnate together.  Since they are always in communication one to the other, they can never be alone.  What one knows instinctively the other one knows.  If they do not incarnate at the same reference points the one who is not incarnated always gives information to the one that is incarnated.  They are always in direct communication one to the other.  When they incarnate, one may incarnate for example in London, the other one may incarnate in Bangladesh.

Jasmine…  But at different times.

Seth…  Even at the same time.

Jasmine…  Oh.

Seth…  When they choose to incarnate together their learning is vastly different than yours.  Their problems and their eyesight internal and external is vastly different than yours since it becomes impossible for them to shut down because you cannot cut off half of yourself.  These individuals and there a number of them always choose to work together and they do this, they span time.  One would be born a number of years ahead of the other.  You may call them delayed identicals if you will.  Yet their isolationism is at times a detriment to their growth and development because they isolate themselves from the rest since they do not require or believe that they need others.  Therefore, it is quite difficult for them to understand what others are not since they always are.  To sum up here, you have three levels that one must deal with, the first being the physical plane individual who must come to realize that they can never be alone since they are always part of The All That Is.  They always have direct communication with their higher selves, spiritual guides, teachers and friends.  When an individual feels lonely or abandoned they have isolated themselves and stopped communication first with their conscious mind and only allows that conscious mind to see out and not deal with information from within.  And not deal with information from within. (Seth repeated the last phrase to emphasize it.)    On spiritual planes it is obvious now that you cannot be alone.  So, if you feel alone on the physical plane one must meditate, one must re-contact if you will yourself.  You must open your conscious mind to allow information to pass from higher realms into the physical plane where you currently reside. 

And lastly identicals, these individuals must learn not to isolate themselves either on the physical plane or in higher realms since the idea from one there were two, plays an important factor in their existence.  Try to imagine if you will that half of you is gone but the other half is still there but resides in someone else.  It is at best a difficult lesson to learn.

Jasmine…  Half of you is gone but…

Seth… exists in some… and half of you exists in someone else.

These individuals must learn to communicate with others.  They commonly practice incarnations alone.  The more difficult pairs routinely incarnate together for support. 

Before we take our break, write this down in capital letters: YOU CANNOT BE ALONE BUT YOU MAY CHOOSE TO MAKE YOURSELF LONELY.  We shall take a break.

(It was 9:13 P.M.)  

Seth…  Let us continue: I believe that I have given you enough information, at least this evening, so that we may then turn to the idea that it should have stimulated some of your questions.  Therefore, are there any questions?

Isabella…  (Laughing.)  I have a question.  I don’t really want to but I have one.  You told me once about a soul that I had a connection with in collage and I’m almost positive that you used the word identical with him because he and I…

Seth…  Absolutely not, you are not an identical.

Isabella…  So, what did you say?

Seth…  I said you were like a twin.

Isabella…  So, what does that mean?

Seth…  In other words…

Isabella…  What’s the difference there?

Seth…  Think of bar codes if you will.  That they are not perfect…

Isabella…  Em hmm.

Seth… but they are close.

Isabella…  Okay.

Seth…  That’s what it is.

Isabella…  So, were he and I created at the same time?

Seth…  You were created around the same time, so your tendency is to feel a connection there.

Isabella…  Not that I’ve seen him in the last ten years.

Seth…  It matters not.

Isabella…  Okay so…

Seth…  That’s what it is.

Isabella…  But you don’t have, you don’t have…

Seth…  For example, there are people who are twins who again were created around the same time so their viewpoints, their actions, the way of looking at things would be very, very similar.  They are as best as I can tell you in the same classroom if you would use that as an idea. 

Isabella…  So, when I move on to a higher realm would I match up with him in the same classroom or his soul whoever that is in the same classroom.

Seth…  You would probably; you would probably be in fairly close connection with that individual. 

Any other questions?

Frank…  Yeah, in a similar vein the question about me and Zachary (Frank’s son.) being very similar is that also…

Seth…  Well, remember when you are in a soul family per say not that it is, when you are in a soul family per say not that it is always the case because you can move from one soul family to another, and you commonly do.  It just depending upon what your interests are therefore in most common soul families you are all approximately the of the same soul age.  You are dealing with similar types of situations, for example it would be foolhardy to believe that an infant soul would be connectable to a mature soul since their outlook is vastly different.  You understand?

Frank…  Yeah, there are lots of similarities between soul family members.

Seth…  Yes, and therefore you will be more or less (similar.  Frank was talking at the same time in agreement.)

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George…  What would determine if you are part of a soul family?

Seth…  It’s what you are.  It is not determined.  It’s for example you have a physical plane family on earth.

George…  Right.

Seth…  Before you were incarnated you and your guides, teachers selected your parents, your brothers, your sisters, your aunts, your uncles because the realm of experience that you chose to get and give would be compatible with some of these people for whatever line of study you were on whether it be positive, negative or anything in between…  Therefore, when you are in a soul family you are all approximately the same age.  You have similar interests and your discussions from a moment-to-moment basis concern those interests.  Do you understand?

George…  So would I be considered part of this soul family because I’m here in (not clear but the question is whether George is part of the soul family of those who attend these Seth sessions.)

Seth…  It would, first of all I will not answer the question because it would serve no useful purpose for you.  However, or anybody else for that matter, but if you become very interested in this series of lectures it becomes obvious after a while that in the larger sense possible of course you must become a soul member of the family because otherwise you wouldn’t stay interested.  (George was relatively new to sessions in 2008 but has attended sessions on a fairly regular basis up to the time of this typing in January of 2014) Does that make sense to you?

George…  Yes.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Isabella…  Well, you don’t necessarily have to be part of the soul family of your physical plane family, correct?

Seth…  No, you do not.

Isabella…  Like, Mom, Jasmine is not part of her physical plane family, well not me…

Seth…  I will not answer that question, move along.

Frank…  I am curious as to how others would react to one of the identicals like if you are married to one do they have a very hard time with that, they don’t even know?

Seth…  Most commonly most identicals keep that hidden from the one who is incarnated.

Frank…  The other one who is not incarnated…

Seth…  Who is not incarnated…

Frank… just gives them information.  They don’t know, they don’t even know on the physical plane they are that. (An identical.)      

Seth…  They would tend to have very good psychic abilities for very obvious reasons.

Jasmine…  But what about their communication skills in terms of others?

Seth…  At times it can be quite lacking, especially in infant and baby souls.  As they progress to young and mature souls their communication skills work…

Jasmine… better

Seth… better for them.  So, by the time a soul, an identical becomes, arbitrarily here, a mature soul that they pass the level three mature soul age their communication skills are excellent.

Jasmine…  With others?  

Seth…  Yes, in the beginning they certainly were not.

Jasmine…  Yes, because that was part of the whole thing that they are not…

Seth…  They tend to be isolationists.  That also goes by the way with the idea of communities and countries too.  For if you look for example at countries, many of them tend to be isolationist.  They tend towards that and that is due to a lack of communication.

Jasmine…  Yes.

Frank…  And…

Seth…  Hold it (microphone) close so you can speak and be heard.

Frank…  And just in general the idea about knowing about identicals is so that we can then better know about…

Seth…  Whether it’s, whether it is better to know about yourself or whether it is better to know anything, there is a need at times for information and the information you have to learn to compare and contrast.  You have to learn to understand that information itself gives you knowledge and experience.  And since it gives you knowledge and experience how you then use that information, how you capture it if you will and make it become part of you is something you know that you have to discern for yourself.  I give information because without it the lecture would not have been complete.

Frank…  In terms of this… if identicals being a rarity during our course do we ever come across one that…

Seth…  I am sure you have.

Frank…  So, one out of a thousand?

Seth…  It matters not; one out of hundred thousand, one out of hundred million, one out of two it matters not.  And if you met one what difference would it make?

Frank…  I’m just trying to put it into a context of something.

Seth…  Of what?  Of walking into a tree?

Frank…  (Was mumbling.)

Seth…  No, you are not an identical if that’s the question.

Frank…  I know I am not… one.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

George…  We talked about when you love being alone and not be alone that concept?

Seth…  Yes, you may be lonely, but you are not alone.

George…  Your area is filled with all these students and teachers and guides so then, I still want to talk about when you’re feeling alone you are not alone, you delude yourself by cutting off your engagement with yourself.

Seth…  Correct.

George…  Well, how do you, how does someone go about re-establishing communication with yourself and all these other people around you?

Seth…  Do you remember the exercise I gave you a few weeks ago?

George…  Yeah.

Seth…  How often have you done it?

George…  Not as often as you wanted me to.  (Isabella giggled.)    

Seth…  One of the things that you must do is learn your own inner rhythms.  Your sounds, your inner voices and if you just sit there and allow things to play themselves out you will then get a feeling for who and what you truly are.  And by allowing yourself to open you will gather information that heretofore you did not have access to.

George…  So, am I doing it wrong?  I tried to do at the opportunities where…

Seth…  All you have to do is to sit quietly and do not focus, do not think you’re meditating and whatever sounds, feelings, thoughts pass you by do not follow them but just allow them to be and you will hear an inner body rhythm and that is the fact that you are connecting at that portion to your higher self.  And you will have information that will spontaneously come to you.  It is not a question of doing it correctly or incorrectly.  It is a simple question of doing.  Remember, do you remember when you first drove a car?  Remember how you used to think about, foot on the gas, foot on the brake, turn your hands, look in the mirror, look at the speedometer?  All things have to be repeatable to you.  Do you do that now?  Do you think the same way when you drive?

George…  No.

Seth…  Or does it become part of you so that it is instinct if you will.

George…  It becomes, it becomes instinctual but there’s a lot of times I’m during the course of my day I’ll try and stop and like…

Seth…  No, we are only talking about driving now.

George…  Okay, yes.

Seth…  So, it does become instinctual so the exercise that I am giving you is to make you become instinctual about finding yourself.  And when you find yourself, you will note that you are much more content.  And you are much more content because you have allowed yourself the luxury of going ahead and feeling you.  One of the things people who tend to be negative or isolationists about is that they put themselves at a distance from themselves and they constantly do this.  Le Chang is a perfect example of this. (Le Chang is Jerry’s friend and has been to several sessions.  He has had many lives and often chooses to learn from negativity.  Seth has used him as an example a number of times.) 

Also, as an aside in a little bit of housekeeping work, Jasmine, it is obvious at least to me that you also need to do some reading.  Please get finished with the book The Secret as quickly as you possibly can and then you are also required to read The Nature of Personal Reality.  You will note that the portions of the book that the man through whom I speak gave you were directly pertinent to you.

Jasmine…  Yeah, I have been reading it.

Seth…  And again, when you read this book, I would suggest that you get your own copy.  I would suggest that you underline.  I would suggest that you take notes, and I would suggest that you do not try to read the book in terms of seventy-five pages at a time.  Read three, five pages and digest it.  Make it become part of you and you will see that in doing this your existence will change, should you allow it to do so.  To our friend Frank, you may not.  (Frank laughs.)

Let us move along, are there any other questions?

Isabella…  I have a question.  I am curious about the Rachel soul that is around all the time.  That’s a name I, that I get constantly when I am meditating.  I’m just curious if that is a spiritual guide, a twin soul…

Seth…  Have you ever spoken to Rachel herself?

Isabella…  Part of me thinks it is me, that it’s my higher self is Rachel.  It’s not?

Seth…  No.  Therefore, your work that has to be done is to speak to Rachel yourself.

Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  Yeah, I just wanted, at the break I was just wondering about the idea of if you feel alone or lonely, the idea of meditating because you know you had mentioned on higher realms (that) you always have the understanding that you are never alone.  Would that be automatically a way for a person to get back in touch with that idea?

Seth…  Of course.  

Stephanie…  That that is what you are saying.

Seth…  The idea is to communicate.  Write that down.  The idea of not being alone is to communicate.  And who is the most important person you must learn to routinely communicate with?  The answer is of course, self!  So, when you are feeling alone you must first get into contact with yourself.  Since you can never be alone you are only reacting to loneliness because you have isolated yourself.  Do you see the difference Kaetorina?

Jasmine…  So, if you are feeling lonely you are saying to meditate?

Seth…  Absolutely. 

Are there any other questions?

Arthur…  The loneliness I felt at the Smith’s, what was I supposed to be learning there?  I…

Seth…  What loneliness did you feel?

Arthur…  That in the ceremony that was going on, the retirement ceremony when I went to sit in the family slot, there was no seat for me. 

Seth…  Were you not then isolated?

Arthur…  I felt isolated.

Seth…  Were you?  Of course!  Did you ask why is there not seat for me?

Arthur…  No, Jim came to me right after the ceremony and noticed it and apologized to me and said he’d forgotten. So, I had no…

Seth…  Of course, you did.  Did you stand up for yourself and say, I want you to understand even though you forgot this is how I felt?

Arthur…  No, I didn’t.

Seth…  Why not?

Arthur…  Because it was in the middle of his retirement ceremony.  (Arthur was giggling.)

Seth…  No that is not an excuse.  That is an excuse for you to allow you to feel badly.

Arthur…  I had another piece that was also holding me back and that is that I felt humiliated in front of his sister.

Seth…  Better that you should feel humiliated in front of his sister than stand up for yourself, that is what you told me.  Now, if you were your patient and someone said that to you what would you say?

Arthur…  I’d probably would…

Seth…  What question would you ask?

Arthur…  What did you do to promote self…

Seth…  Yeah, what did you do?

Arthur… in that situation?

Seth…  The answer is?

Arthur…  I…

Seth…  Did nothing.

Arthur… grieved.  I went to the reception and made sure that I spoke with people.  I made an effort.

Seth…  You did nothing at that point because you did not correct the injustice that was done.  So therefore, you were isolated.  You didn’t correct the injustice.  Notice the story and I told it for this reason about the man through whom I speak and what he did to correct the injustice that was done to him, and I believe that he felt better.

Arthur…  Alright, but then I could have gone to Jim afterwards.

Seth…  And you still haven’t.

Arthur…  No.

Seth…  Why not?

Arthur…  I thought it was over. (Giggled.)

Seth…  Is it?  Obviously, you feel badly.  I believe you have your own answer.

Are there any other questions?

George…  I have a question along that same line?

Seth…  Okay.

George…  I’m curious, do you think it would be profitable for me to confront my boss because of all the sort of angst that I am having at work as a result of what happened with the whole residency situation in terms of how I feel?  I feel abandoned and not looked after and I feel that the people I work with that I ended up bargaining with, like would I have anything to gain by confronting people about that?

Seth…  What do you think?

George…  I think no.

Seth…  Why not?

George…  Because I think in the end it may come back to…

Seth…  How… it depends upon how you do it.  Is that not factual?

George…  With these people I don’t know.

Seth…  It is not a question of that.  It’s a question of I want you to understand that I appreciate all that you have done for me in the past and hopefully will still do for me, however, I am feeling abandoned now.  What would they say to that?

George…  Ha, tough shit! (Chuckles.)

Seth…  Isn’t it better to know that someone cannot be counted on?  Do you understand what I am saying?

George…  Yes.

Seth…  Are…

Frank…  There seems to be something very important about stating it.  That that is part of correcting even if they don’t respond that seems to be very important to the individual.

Seth…  Who is the person who matters most?

Frank…  Self.

Seth…  And if you allow someone to slap you, what are you telling yourself?

Frank…  That you are not worthwhile.

Seth…  Correct.  Is that what you are doing? (To George) Shaking your head yes.  Okay, I believe we now have a solution to that.

Any other questions?

Arthur…  Yeah, I have a few, sorry.  (Arthur laughing perhaps directed at Isabella who was to type the session.)   In a way there was a sense that this was my own doing, in the sense that I you know this notion of impure motives.  I wanted to triumph over his sister and my sister-in-law and it’s almost as though that it’s like a pride goeth before a fall or something that, that I, I was humbled by that.  I was also angry by that, so wasn’t I really making a victim of myself?  This man apologized to me.  He recognized what he had done wrong, and he said he was sorry.  Did I require more than that?  And is…

Seth…  Do you?

Arthur…  I don’t know. 

Seth…  If you don’t know then who should find out?

Arthur…  I should.

Seth…  You’ve answered your question.

Arthur…  But what about this notion of this being of my own doing because I was having these competitive feelings with her?

Seth…  Did you set up the seating?

Arthur…  No, no.

Seth…  You had nothing to do with the seating, did you?

Arthur…  No, I had nothing to do with…

Seth…  There is no competitiveness there at all.

Arthur…  But I went there with a feeling of competitiveness.  I stayed in the house; I was invited to the house, she was staying in a hotel.

Seth…  One thing has nothing to do with the other.

Arthur…  It was she that I felt humiliated in front of.

Seth…  I understand, that’s still nothing to do with anything.  What your feelings were are obvious because you did not set up the seating.

Isabella…  Just a quick aside about typing up this session; do I have to type up questions that are completely unrelated to session?

Seth…  Absolutely.   Every word, every phrase, every comma, every period including that sentence will be on your transcript.  (Stephanie laughs.) I hate you; that will also be on the transcripts said by Isabella.  (Note, Frank typed this session almost six years later in January of 2014.)

Are there any other questions?  (Long pause, it seemed that Stephanie had something else to ask but decided against it.)  Nothing else?

Let me leave you with this: Since you can never be alone on any level, guard against the possibility of loneliness because you isolate yourself.  And when you isolate yourself, your wants magnify, and your needs are unfulfilled.  Meditate, open yourself up.  Face yourself back at the center point knowing full well that you always are part of something greater.  I bid you all a very fond good evening.

(Session ended at 9:57.)