Camouflage, Core-Beliefs and Change
Tuesday Oct 9, 2007
8:20 p.m.
Seth… Good evening. A pleasure to have all of you here again. We have been dealing with the idea of change and we shall continue along those lines. Might as well put the number there, 349. Now, in dealing with change one must understand that each one of you needs to feel good about themselves. In other words, you must love self. When and if you can imagine at whatever point of reference you are at you are not content. (The idea of learning to love self has been stressed over and over again by Seth and is absolutely necessary for change to occur.)
Isabella… With whatever point of reference?
Seth… You are not content at whatever. The idea here is that when you are not content change is mandatory. Most individuals unfortunately believe that they are making changes.
Now, in dealing with change one must understand that each one of you needs to feel good about themselves. In other words, you must love self. When and if you can imagine at whatever point of reference you are at you are not content. The idea here is that when you are not content change is mandatory. Most individuals unfortunately believe that they are making changes when in fact they are in reality doing nothing more than preserving the status quo. Yes Jasmine, you agree with that?
Jasmine… No, I said not me… I’m making changes.
Seth… You are making some changes at this point of reference but for the past oh, let us be kind and say a few decades one has believed that they have been working upon a subject…
Jasmine… No, I don’t agree… I completely agree that I have not been working at all.
Seth… Do you know why?
Jasmine… I thought I was working but…
Seth… I’m not questioning that you were trying in good faith. That is not the issue here.
Jasmine… I wasn’t ready to.
Seth… That wasn’t even the issue here at all because you truly believed you were making changes. (Jasmine said something about a small change but was whispering.) What the difficulty with most individuals is in the idea that they are truly focused upon that which dissatisfies them… (Frank sighed audibly.) Yes Frank?
Frank… It’s like, Oh, so that’s it! (Laughed.)
Isabella… Wait I don’t…
Seth… I think we better stop and take a few questions here.
Isabella… Yes, I have a question. First…
Seth… No let us…
Jasmine… Can you just say the language straight here? The trouble with most individuals with the idea that they are truly focused upon that which dissatisfies them. The trouble with most individuals is that?
Isabella… Is in the idea.
Jasmine… is in the idea that they are truly focused upon that which dissatisfies them, so in other words then they are constantly thinking about what they are unhappy about rather than what is good.
Frank… The point is you get what you focus on.
Seth… Correct. Go ahead, you have a question, Frank.
Frank… No, I don’t. That is it.
Stephanie… What’s it?
Frank… The idea of staying focused on, oh this won’t change, or I don’t like this and you just stay there instead of thinking about what is the alternative; what would I like to be doing and then just doing it.
Isabella… Well, what if you don’t know that you are unhappy?
Seth… I have never in my years, and I have a few more under my belt than you, have ever met an individual who did not know that they were not happy.
Isabella… Okay but what if they didn’t know what they were unhappy about?
Seth… That is not the same issue.
Isabella… Okay.
Seth… That is a vastly different question.
Isabella… Well, I am asking that question.
Seth… Individuals routinely and one of the reasons why change must be contemplated…
Isabella… Right, so do you think that was the issue with my ex-husband? I mean do you think there was an unconscious part of me that was dissatisfied?
Seth… Well let me ask you a number of questions. Were you always looking out for other green pastures?
Isabella… Definitely.
Seth… Were you satisfied then?
Isabella… Apparently not.
Seth… Then let us move along.
Isabella… But then so why was I… then why would I always say that there was nothing wrong, that he was great, he was perfect, why would I have went there?
Seth… I believe that you can go ahead and at any point of reference ask Jasmine why many years ago she would tell the man through whom I speak and anyone else for that matter, that her parents were absolutely the best parents in the world, there was absolutely nothing wrong with them and everyone should be modeled just exactly like her parents were.
Isabella… Really?
Jasmine… Yup.
Isabella… That’s scary. (Stephanie laughs.) So, what is that? Just a blockage that you don’t want to look at what it is?
Seth… It is more than just a blockage.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… When you are dissatisfied, unhappy, it is far easier as I have previously stated to maintain the illusion then it is to repair self. One must need to repair self by first focusing upon, you must first focus upon your core belief issues, that which you are made up of. What defines you as an individual on any given subject? Now, the problem with that question is simply this: If I was to ask you on any specific subject what defines you, none of you would be able to illicit a factual answer since you do not comprehend the question. And you don’t comprehend the question because you are dissatisfied with that idea.
Jasmine… What idea?
Seth… Of what the problem would be.
Stephanie… Wouldn’t that be like trust for me?
Seth… That would be. If I ask you to define trust, can you do that?
Stephanie… Well, when you say…
Seth… What is your core belief on trust?
Stephanie… Right. That I don’t trust.
Seth… That doesn’t mean anything.
Stephanie… My core belief on trust is that it doesn’t exist. (Laughter.)
Seth… No, that is the outgrowth of the core belief. That is not…
Stephanie… If you were to ask me what defines you, I would say my difficulty with trust.
Seth… But that is not an answer. What… If you were having a problem with trust, what is your core belief about trust?
Isabella… That it’s hurt you in the past.
Stephanie… My core belief that that…
Seth… That’s an outgrowth, that is not the core belief. I am not going to tell her, obviously.
Stephanie… Trusting is foolhardy.
Seth… That again is an outgrowth of the true core belief system. You cannot make an effective change without reaching further back then the immediate outgrowth of a difficulty. If I was to ask our friend Frank, why does he find it necessary to go ahead and examine and reexamine everything routinely? What would his core belief answer belief be?
Frank… Because I am afraid of… um, emotions…
Seth… That’s an outgrowth. That is not the core belief system.
Frank… Life… life is scary.
Seth… Again, an outgrowth and I will not have to continue on with this. These are difficulties in examining your belief systems. They are so camouflaged or overlaid with secondary and tertiary ideas and meanings and feelings.
Frank… Can you give me an example of getting to the core of something?
Seth… Once you have established a question one must then start to pick away at an idea. In other words, if we were going to use you for an example, if we know that you have a problem with overanalyzing, one may then say, well one of the ideas that I must start looking at is the fact that if I am over analyzing that means I do not understand what is going on. And I do want to accept that which I understand since there may be something I am missing. So that’s one of the overlays that you would have to use in determining what that belief system factually is for you.
Jasmine, you have a problem?
Jasmine… No, I am trying to understand what you are saying.
Seth… Well, let me put it into a term that you can understand. You have a core belief system or an outgrowth thereof of the idea that you grab negative ideas, and you hold them within yourself. You would agree with this?
Jasmine… Yes, I must hold on to them…
Seth… You must hold on to them.
Jasmine… like a lifeline for some reason.
Seth… Right. Now, first of all you can first start examining the idea that you were taught this, and you certainly were.
Jasmine… I saw that.
Seth… Now you may examine the outgrowth of that. The underneath portion of that that caused that. You have already determined that the withdrawal, the removal of affection and love caused the need… need (Emphasized.) not want but need to feel appreciated and make yourself into a beautiful and loving person. You feel a need for that. Do you understand so far?
Jasmine… Yes.
Seth… But the question arises again, what is underneath that and is the removal of layers of camouflage, layers of a systemic nature that each individual lays down that cause most individuals to truly believe they are making changes when in fact all they are doing is studying the outgrowth of an idea.
Isabella… But wouldn’t it be…
Seth… When…
Betty… Doesn’t everything boil down to acceptance of self?
Seth… No.
Isabella… That’s exactly what I was thinking!
Seth… No. Acceptance of self is a standard routine answer which in this instance means nothing. You may accept yourself as being overweight, you may accept yourself as being lazy, you may accept yourself for whatever you define that as. But that is not the answer here.
Isabella… But maybe not acceptance but how you feel about yourself.
Seth… Feelings can be positive or negative, that’s still not the issue here.
Isabella… So then if you are talking about your core belief system, isn’t it your core believe system about yourself?
Seth… It is about self, but it is how you define yourself on a specific topic or subject. For example, you have many, not just you; all individuals have many different core belief systems. How do you define self in terms of being a dutiful daughter? How do you define yourself as being an effective teacher? Do you understand? You define yourself…
Isabella… In many different ways.
Seth… in many ways all of which are factual. The question arises…
Isabella… They are all related into some core?
Seth… No, your core beliefs are on many different individual ideas or subjects. Write that down, you have many different… core belief systems on many ideas and subjects.
Isabella… Like I might feel one way about myself as a teacher and then I might feel another way about myself as an independent woman.
Seth… Correct and you define yourself differently. Behavior that is appropriate in a classroom would be woefully inadequate in social situations.
Isabella… Absolutely.
Jasmine… So, when you said in the example of belief systems, they are so camouflaged and overlaid with feeling that you really can’t get to your core beliefs.
Seth… Correct. You have feelings about ideas, for example if I was to ask you to look at your feelings in terms of your parents let’s say. You have certain belief systems and feelings about them. Do you not?
Jasmine… Right.
Seth… Yet those feelings camouflage that which you need to look at so that you may effectively make changes. In other words, let me give you a good example of how to look at feelings and thoughts and changes. If one were to look at a very young child, they are completely open. They will tell you when they are happy or sad. They will describe their feelings about foods, clothing, the weather or whatever you would choose to look at. As one gets older one then digresses from the simplistic idea of being truly open to the complex idea of an adult whose true identity has been camouflaged by all that which surrounds them.
Stephanie… So now what is your point? Are you stating that the camouflage…
Seth… What is my point, go ahead.
Stephanie… gets you away from the core beliefs?
Seth… Prevents you from understanding what the core belief is.
Stephanie… For me the trust is I don’t trust!
Seth… Correct.
Stephanie… That’s my core belief.
Seth… Neither does the man through whom I speak.
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… And we have been working diligently on peeling the way that which you have camouflaged. For example, I assigned both of you and you have done a fairly credible job in looking at ten different ideas of trust.
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… Do you see how that starts to break down the idea of that which you believe is the problem to what some of the real problems are?
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… And once those are dealt with you will get down to the nature of that which you can either accept or reject or change.
Stephanie… Which is what?
Isabella… So, it’s her core belief that doesn’t trust?
Seth… No that is an outgrowth of what has gone on that influences her.
Isabella… Now if her core belief is not, I don’t trust, that’s not the core belief?
Seth… That is an outgrowth. She does not.
Isabella… Right but that’s not the core belief?
Seth… The question is why does she do that?
Isabella… Right, I understand that.
Seth… That is the “Why?” with a big capital W and a very large question mark.
Jasmine… So maybe the core belief would be that the world is not a safe place?
Seth… It may very well be.
Isabella… So, in my case my core belief about independence would be that I don’t know how to take care of myself?
Seth… Not that you do not know how to take care of yourself, it is the fact that you would choose to be taken care of.
Isabella… Okay. So, but that’s not my core belief?
Seth… No.
Isabella… That’s just an outgrowth of the core belief.
Seth… It is an outgrowth.
Isabella… That I am incapable of doing things on my own.
Seth… That is an outgrowth.
Jasmine… That’s still an outgrowth.
Isabella… So then, see that is what I don’t understand.
Seth… You have to strip away.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… Think of a very cold night and what you have here is a house without heat.
Isabella… Sleep with layers and layers.
Seth… So, what you do is you first decide I think I cannot sleep in the nude.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… So, I am going to get into pajamas. They weren’t heavy enough, so I am going to put on a sweat suit over my pajamas.
Isabella… I, I understand that.
Seth… No, let me finish please.
Isabella… Alright.
Seth… And then you add a blanket layer but camouflaging the fact that you are first…
Isabella… Nude.
Seth… nude.
Isabella… I understand.
Seth… It is the nakedness that is the problem.
Isabella… Right, I understand so now how do you get back to what the core is. Like how do I figure out why I didn’t, why I don’t trust myself to take care of me?
Seth… Because…
Isabella… Like how do you get there?
Seth… You would first of all start to need in my example for you, you would start questioning, I have three blankets on me. Why did I add the third? Why did I require a third blanket? Why didn’t I call the repair man for the furnace to fix the furnace so I would have heat so that I would not have needed the third blanket? Which had nothing to do with what you believe was the situation. In other words, you were naked, but I told you the house had no heat. Wouldn’t the logical method have been first of all to determine why the house had no heat? That is the difficulty.
Isabella… Right so the core would be why do I feel that I can’t take care of myself?
Seth… No, that is not your core belief.
Isabella… That is the question to help me find, figure out what the core belief is?
Seth… Correct. The core belief in the situation I described.
Isabella… I know I am having difficulty making the connection between the metaphor.
Seth… No, the metaphor will give you a sense of direction. I am not going to answer the personality here since that would take away your freedom of choice and free will. If you understand that the true core belief and the situation I described with the house with no heat, correct?
Isabella… Right.
Seth… Would be why do I not call the repair man for the furnace?
Isabella… Right.
Seth… You didn’t, you first of all put on a light pair of pajamas.
Isabella… So, I choose to not do what’s right? Or what was…
Seth… You choose to camouflage…
Isabella… Right.
Seth… the real problem because it is easier than to try and fix the problem…
Isabella… (Isabella talking at the same time.) So, the real problem, the real problem was the heat and not necessarily about, about putting more layers on.
Seth… Correct.
Isabella… I get that.
Seth… Right.
Isabella… One hundred percent I understand that. What I am having difficulty understanding is so it’s my, one of my issues is this independence piece which I am starting to strip away the layers and to see why this has happened to me over the course of time. I don’t understand what my core belief is, that I don’t believe in myself? I, I…
Seth… You will have to discover that for yourself. That is what I told you, why the ideas that I was giving you will help you learn.
Isabella… Oh, it just doesn’t make sense to me. But I believe that core belief is that what I learned and watched as being modeled for me.
Seth… Let me give you this: When one feels love you then tend to become open. Now feeling love has many definitions. You may feel loved by self, by others in any numerous numbers of ways. But when you feel love you may then open yourself, (said again slowly), you may then open yourself to the challenges and opportunities that the physical plane will allow you to have. That the physical plane will allow you to have. Many sessions ago I described the idea that a person who is evil, vile, is mean may in reality be having the most marvelous time with his current incarnation.
Jasmine… That’s successful?
Seth… Highly successful yet the person who is kind, who is gentle, who is giving may be doing so at their own expense and may have to relearn the idea of saying no. And in each case the idea of their ability to change is called into question. Why do individuals, why do individuals allow themselves the luxury of saying yes when no is more profitable? It may certainly be fear, Kaetorina. It may certainly be stupidity…
Jasmine… Or guilt.
Seth… it may be guilt. All these answers are possible, and it matters not which one of them was correct.
Isabella… So, will the universe provide…
Seth… Constant repetition.
Isabella… That and also the opportunity to learn, like in the case with Jacob, obviously this issue with independence and being able to care for myself has been repeated over and over again. So obviously his leaving was extremely vital for my growth and development as an individual, as an independent person, so was that planned? Like had the universe provided that because I needed that at the time, like it was mandatory then?
Seth… There is nothing that is mandatory. What you must learn in this instance just as Kaetorina has to learn, do not hold onto the past. That which has occurred is just as easily changed as the future. When one holds on to what one believes happened and one is so consumed by the idea, the universe provided me with this opportunity I didn’t take it, the universe provided me with that opportunity, and I missed it and all you are doing is dwelling…
Isabella… On the missing.
Seth… on the wanting of something…
Isabella… Right.
Seth… instead of grasping the idea it doesn’t matter what happened then, it is what am I going to do now.
Isabella… Well, the only reason I am asking that question is because…
Seth… Do you understand?
Isabella… I do and I guess I am asking because for some reason I am so much happier now than I have been in the last twenty-seven years of my life.
Seth… Do you not wish to look at the ideas of what systems have changed for you and when you deal with this in terms of your own individual psyche, your own ego if you will…
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… then one will start to open and broaden their perspective of what was beneficial and what was not just as Jasmine has to leave go of what she feels for others and concentrate on self. Arthur has similar problems where he must learn to stop dwelling in the past of what was and promote his own future.
Isabella… I just mean like I feel that after the breakup of my marriage something within me has obviously changed but I feel the most comfortable in my skin. I feel the most like me for some bizarre reason I feel me. I feel like I’m me.
Seth… Are you not more in touch with self?
Isabella… Definitely.
Seth… Then you have your answer.
Isabella… But it is a bizarre feeling because I don’t think I’ve ever felt this way.
Seth… Oh, you certainly have when you were a child. You were open, you were straightforward. Children are perfect examples of how to be open, how not to fear.
Isabella… But I feel that way. I feel like I am so not afraid of anything now. It’s like I feel like I am okay, I have such faith in the universe because of this experience…
Seth… Please do not do that. You must have faith in self. The universe is a machine that will grant you opportunities. It has an unlimited supply of that which you create.
Isabella… Right, a…
Seth… You are the creative force.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… That which you create you will have.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… That which you want you will not have.
Isabella… But I just, I don’t feel like I have fears like I did in the past like you know… I just feel like I was living under the shadow and…
Seth… Could be because you placed yourself there; you placed yourself in a position of saying please care for me.
Isabella… But I don’t…
Seth… Let me ask you a simple question.
Isabella… So, is that it? Is that the piece that is changing?
Seth… Of course, it’s changing.
Isabella… I mean is that the piece that I am like wow I’m different. I don’t need anybody.
Seth… Let me ask you a question. I am having you do an exercise, have I not?
Isabella… Yeah.
Seth… How do you feel about that exercise?
Isabella… Frigging fantastic.
Seth… What has changed?
Isabella… The appreciation of it.
Seth… One that, besides that, that’s obvious.
Isabella… That I just don’t do it because I have to do it. I do it because I want to do it.
Seth… That’s correct and because it is wonderful to have other people appreciate you.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… I believe that you are starting to learn a lesson.
(Isabella spoke at length about her divorce and that despite it being very difficult she is now in a positive place.)
Seth… From every line of study and we have talked about lines of study, you may look at the positive nature of a line of study. You may look at a negative portion of the same line of study and all individuals routinely do this. You cannot appreciate a negative line without knowing what the positive line was and the reverse is always true. Do you understand?
Isabella… Yeah, like I am hearing a lot of people from work say you have the worst four years you know of anyone I’ve ever met. It’s been such a challenging four years. You are such a strong girl. I don’t understand how you are possibly still standing after what you have been through with work and home. And I am thinking to myself, that’s not bad. You know that’s my opinion of it but I, am I wrong? I feel like I am questioning myself because I am listening to what other people are saying.
Seth… As you are changing now…
Isabella… Uh huh.
Seth… your past changes. Do you see how that works?
Isabella… Yeah, because (speaking very fast) it’s almost…
Seth… Excuse me, excuse me.
Isabella… like the tenured thing didn’t happen.
Seth… That is correct.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… Remember how important it was?
Isabella… Yeah.
Seth… Is it important now?
Isabella… No.
Seth… I believe you’ve changed your past.
Stephanie… Then your core belief changes?
Seth… No, core belief on any subject is what it is.
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… The sec…
Jasmine… But if the core belief is wrong?
Seth… Your core belief, it is not a question of right or wrong. The core belief is what it is, for example is that a light?
Jasmine… Yes.
Seth… That’s a core belief. That’s the simplest way I can put it to you. Now, you may not like that light bulb. You may choose to go ahead to say it’s too weak or too strong, I don’t like the shape of it. So, you may change the core belief by putting in a different bulb. Do you understand?
Stephanie… So how would you transfer that to a personality trait?
Seth… Personality trait was described here by Isabella. She needed or required to have somebody have her in an area where they cared for her.
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… Did you listen to the conversation?
Stephanie… Yes, I’m just saying the core belief is that is not a light.
Seth… That light is the core belief in general.
Stephanie… You believe that’s a light?
Seth… Correct but you may not like the core belief. You may decide to change it. I don’t like a frosted light. I like a clear bulb.
Jasmine… But some core beliefs are negative core beliefs.
Seth… No, some core beliefs are not satisfactory at any given point of reference.
Isabella… You come into each incarnation with core beliefs, or do they develop as you develop.
Seth… They develop as you develop.
Isabella… You don’t come here…
Seth… You have a basic systemic plan.
Isabella… Right, of how your life is going to go and what issues are going to…
Seth… Nothing is written in stone.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… So, you pick something here, you pick something here, you pick something here and it’s what that picking is at first that determines well I think this, or I don’t think that, or I would like this, or I would want that. Do you understand?
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… That is the original core belief and then you overlay it with areas, and you hide it like in fog.
Isabella… So, it’s probably then, I mean you probably choose your core beliefs when you are a child.
Seth… Do you remember the… you may have picked up a core belief last week.
Isabella… I’m having a hard time with that.
Seth… You must remember as I gave you the story of the house.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… The core belief was not the fact that you were cold or naked which is what you thought. The core belief was why do I not repair the furnace? That was the difficulty so until you came to that conclusion adding the layers although you may have been warmed it never solved the problem. That is why I said in the beginning portion of tonight’s lecture that most people delude themselves into believing that they are making changes.
Isabella… But they are not asking why did I not fix the furnace?
Seth… Correct which is what is being in the questions, why am I cold?
Isabella… Why am I… Is the core, why am I cold?
Seth… No, the core is (Isabella saying at the same time.) why didn’t I fix the furnace? And you said well, I am cold, so I am going to put on some clothing.
Stephanie… Oh, you didn’t look at the clothing.
Seth… You never looked at the real core belief.
Stephanie… And is it always in a question?
Seth… I’m using that as an example.
Isabella… So, would the core belief there be that you were lazy?
Seth… The core belief there is why do I not fix the furnace? That is the core belief in the story of the house.
Isabella… It’s almost like an avoidance. It’s almost like an avoidance.
Seth… It’s not an avoidance, it is an idea that is so enmeshed in your ego that you don’t see it and you cover it over with numerous layers.
Frank… So, it is not necessarily a defense or often it is a defense?
Seth… It often is but not necessarily.
Frank… Not if you just didn’t get it, like I didn’t get that there was no heat, I just thought it was cold.
Seth… Correct, where there was not anything seen.
Frank… It wasn’t that I wasn’t facing this, I just didn’t get it.
Seth… Correct.
Stephanie… So, my core belief problem isn’t about trust?
Seth… I’m not going to answer that question!
Stephanie… No, but I’m just saying so it is something other than trust? Is it trust?
Seth… The idea of trust may be a portion of your core belief, but it may have nothing to do with trust.
Stephanie… The core belief, that the trust is an outgrowth of…
Seth… May be an outgrowth of something else, a core belief that you have been working on for numerous lifetimes.
Stephanie… Like, like, like, every, that life always ends up in disaster.
Seth… That may be.
Stephanie… Oh! And then trust…
Seth… Comes from that.
Jasmine… Like I said that before the world is a bad place.
Seth… That is a good example. In this instance it is not correct for you but that’s certainly right.
Isabella… Or that love for instance is shown by someone taking care of me.
Seth… Correct.
Isabella… That would be considered a core belief?
Seth… No, not in your instance.
Isabella… Damn, thought I was on to it.
Seth… Let us take a break:
Seth… So, let us continue. Obviously, this subject of Change is going to take quite awhile before you learn to make that change if you will. I believe at this point the easiest thing for all of you is for me to say, are there any questions?
Isabella… Yeah, I was, I had a question regarding the core belief thing. I mean I have other questions, but I figure we would get to that. Can your core belief be a positive statement? Like what I was saying to Kaetorina/Stephanie that like her core belief is that trust is vital to survival or whatever and then she has created challenges in her life that would prevent her from trusting. So, she has to kind of learn from those experiences in order to get back to that trust is vital.
Seth… A core belief may be positive, may be negative, it may be a simple statement. There is no defining attribute that one may use to say well this is what all core beliefs are; this is what all core beliefs are not. It just depends upon what you as the individual have defined a belief system around something.
Jasmine… That’s not what she is asking. She is asking could you then set up positives too?
Seth… It depends upon what, I understood the question completely. The question here is not how you set up. It’s what you define and how you give the essence of the core belief to your self. If you are setting up a positive attribute you may choose to give yourself opportunities to see only the positive. If you set up something that’s positive you may give yourself the idea of negativity as viewed from the positive. There is no one good way to define any of this.
Jasmine… What is the point of that? Why…
Seth… What is your relationship to? You are all working on relationship issues. You are all of that age group, some are more advanced slightly some are less advanced, it matters not. But you are all dealing with relationship issues and since you all are dealing with relationship issues (the question is) is what is my relationship to? And then whatever you choose to study you will.
Isabella… And that’s the core belief?
Seth… No.
Isabella… Oh.
Seth… That is the basic plan that you are setting out to do. Remember, you enter an incarnation with an idea of what you would like to accomplish. That is all one can say, I would like to. Along the way there are signposts if you will; that you will be able to pick up a friend, a husband, a wife, a compatriot. (Seth has explained that when developing a blueprint for one’s incarnation there are numerous signposts set up to give one a sense of direction much like a traffic sign. These signposts can often be previously agreed upon individuals who come into your life that can further whatever one would like to study. Of course, one does not have to follow a signpost because there is freewill. One may take a side trip if it interests them and perhaps return at a later point.) You will look at, oh, I would like to try this job or what is my relationship to that? You have many relationship issues in terms of what is my relationship to and you may add in whatever you would choose to do so. So, in terms of a core belief system at certain specific soul ages and whatever steps you are on those core belief systems, even if you were asking the exact same questions would be different depending upon what soul age and what step you’re at. In other words, a soul who is on step seven is putting all the other six levels together and combining them so that they may pick apart that which interests them. A soul on step two is defining others so even if those two individuals were asked the same exact question their core belief system would be different since they define themselves differently than other individuals do. Do you understand? (There are seven soul ages involved in our journey to rejoin The All There Is called a Grand Cycle. The five soul ages that we go through when we incarnate are Infant Soul where we study survival on the physical plane, Baby Soul where we study fitting in and civilization building, Young Soul where we study power and bringing to ourselves many of the things the physical plane provides, Mature Soul where we study our relationship to others, things and ideas and Old Soul where we study things from a higher level. The seven steps within a Soul Age are the study of 1) What Self is, 2) What Self is not, 3) What Other is, 4) What Other is not, 5) What Self and Others together are, 6) What Self and Others are not and how they relate to one another, 7) Putting all the previous 6 steps together to better understand that soul age.)
Isabella… Well, I think that’s even true in life.
Seth… But that is obvious, that is not something…
Isabella… Right, right, well I think that that is kind of the same thing that of course a soul on level seven is going to feel differently than a soul on level two. Obviously experience over the course of centuries is going to obviously affect level seven. Okay, I’ll ask my questions later about something else.
Stephanie… When you talk about lines of study, each line of study has its own core belief? Is that correct?
Seth… Correct and within that line of study you can have innumerable numbers of core beliefs.
Stephanie… Okay.
Seth… Not just one because for example if you had an idea of a line of study, I’m going to learn to like reading. You may have core belief about reading certain types of things as compared to other things. You understand?
Stephanie… Right. So, when you make the statement, when all of your questions have been asked and answered, your core belief has then been resolved.
Seth… Correct.
Frank… That’s how you know when you’ve reached core…
Seth… No, that’s when you know your line of study is over.
Stephanie… Right.
Isabella… With the dependency, it’s because it is starting to come to its end.
Stephanie… So that’s because that’s when you get the true realization of what your core belief was?
Seth… That’s when all of your questions have been asked and answered. You have striped away…
Stephanie… All the layers…
Seth… that which has bothered you. And remember that when you end your incarnation with an unfinished line of study you may finish it; you will excuse the expression, upstairs.
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… You may come back and have an incarnation on it such as you have for a number of lifetimes.
Stephanie… Em hmm, right.
Frank… So, if you strip something away…
Seth… So, if you strip something away, go ahead.
Frank… How does one know when they are at core?
Seth… When all questions have been asked and answered, when you feel satisfied and have achieved balance.
Frank… No, that’s when you know you are done with a line of study. How do you know you…
Seth… When you are done with your core belief. When you have achieved a core belief answer that is satisfactory to you, all of your questions have been asked and answered.
Frank… What’s the difference between understanding an outcropping and having reached something that is a core belief?
Seth… Because when you understand outcropping there is still else that is going on. There is an overlay.
Jasmine… You are not at the core belief?
Seth… You haven’t reached the end and you’ll know that.
Frank… Maybe not right away or you delude yourself.
Seth… When you still deny; you will still find similar things happening around you.
Frank… Things will just repeat.
Seth… Correct.
Stephanie… Specifically, you don’t, one does not know their core belief until they are right about to have all their answers, questions asked and answered?
Seth… All their questions have been asked and answered.
Stephanie… It’s really at that point when they realized…
Seth… Think of a circle…
Stephanie… what the core belief was.
Seth… Think of a circle, when that circle is fully closed that which was inside is understandable that which is outside matters not.
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… The second the circle is opened there is an interchange that is going on from the outside to the inside, from the inside to the outside and so until you can bring this circle back to closing to end it, there are more questions.
Jasmine… When all questions have been asked and answered, the person has resolved their core beliefs?
Seth… On that specific subject or within a soul age and then you move along to the next step or next soul age.
Jasmine…And that line of study is closed?
Seth… It’s closed.
Stephanie… So, if I’m working on trust, I don’t really know then what my core belief is.
Seth… You may not know; you may be very well aware of it. It does not matter. Do not become enmeshed in the idea of what is exactly my core belief.
Stephanie… Because it doesn’t matter.
Seth… Until you get to the end of it and say, oh I understood that now.
Stephanie… Because then why are you making such a big deal on it? (Frank laughs loudly.)
Seth… Because individuals believe that they are changing when in reality they are maintaining the status quo.
Stephanie… They are maintaining the layers?
Seth… They are maintaining the layers.
Isabella… They’re just adding on extra layers.
Seth… Correct. They’ve added on another layer, I’m satisfied.
Isabella… Right.
Jasmine… They’ve added on a layer!
Seth… Sure, if you…
Jasmine… Added on another camouflage layer!
Seth… Absolutely.
Jasmine… And they think they’ve changed?
Seth… Did you not do this in terms of your belief systems with your mother and sister? At one point until very recently you believed that things were a certain way and then when things started to repeat themselves that made you dissatisfied and reopen old wounds you then realized that things weren’t as what you hoped they were. So, what you did was put on a layer of this much better then when it wasn’t you striped it away and said, I know I am still back here I have to strip that layer away. And then you are starting to do that. Do you understand? It’s easier to maintain something that is hidden than it is to find it. The idea of a treasure hunt, look at this as the largest treasure hunt in the world.
Jasmine… I’m confused about this. I thought that you said just now, when you add layer of camouflage you think you made a change.
Seth… Many people do.
Jasmine… But they haven’t.
Seth… That’s correct.
Stephanie… Like you’ll say, I’m okay with this now. I’m dealing fine with my mother and Tanya then all of sudden something happens, and your mother says something to Tanya and you’re all pissed off on the phone, you hear something and because you’re all pissed off, are you really okay with it? Like that.
Seth… Let me give you a good example of a change that was effective for you.
Jasmine… When you add a layer, you think you are changing.
Seth… Let me give you an example that will be profitable for you, Jasmine.
Jasmine… Okay.
Seth… I believe that you received a telephone call today.
Jasmine… Right.
Seth… How did you receive that telephone call? What were your feelings on that telephone call from your mother?
Jasmine… I had called her. I was prepared; I knew what she was going to say basically.
Seth… How were your feelings? Answer my question, if possible please, when she told you it was what?
Jasmine… Ah, I forgot the words exactly. I’m still on a high she said.
Seth… How did you feel about that? When she said she was still on a high?
Jasmine… I wasn’t really upset.
Seth… That’s correct, you were not upset.
Jasmine… Right.
Seth… You were not bothered at all; in fact, you were laughing about it.
Jasmine… Right.
Seth… Because you could predict that which would occur.
Jasmine… Yes.
Seth… So, in that one small instance…
Jasmine… Right.
Seth… you stripped away huge amounts of camouflage…
Jasmine… Em hmm.
Seth… and got down to the idea that it does not matter. Did it?
Jasmine… That I didn’t go?
Seth… Correct.
Jasmine… Not at all. I mean you are right.
Seth… So, and therefore if you then extend that knowledge one step further you will then be able to promote self with your sister and your mother in slightly different ways
Jasmine… Em hmm.
Seth… And so that will be another change you will be able to make.
Stephanie… You maybe will stand up to your mother differently.
Jasmine… So, it’s only the stripping away of the camouflage that is when you add a layer you think you’ve changed.
Seth… Correct but you in reality maintain the status quo. Does this make sense to you now?
Jasmine… Yeah, the example you gave was when you think you, you’ve added a layer and you think you made a change is what?
Stephanie… When you think is fine and then something happens on the phone, and you get all upset. Like had you not made this change that would have happened on the phone with, “Oh, you know I’m on a high,” you would have been upset.
Jasmine… Yeah, I would have felt like…
Seth… You would have said, why didn’t I go? I could have accomplished this the next day, but how did you feel about yourself and your point of power?
Jasmine… Felt great.
Seth… I believe you will excuse the expression, Seth one, Jasmine zero.
Isabella… I have a question. I’m having a, I feel like I am having a little bit of a, I don’t want to say crisis because that would be exaggerated but I’m having like an issue about not being fully satisfied in my career. And I feel like I want something more and I feel like I am cut out for more, that I am smarter than where I have led myself to this point, that I probably could have done better and been more successful and that kind of thing. Maybe sold myself short a little bit by not trying as hard and I feel like at this point in my life I am looking for something different. Like I feel like I don’t have a passion in my life, something that I really love and want, and I am just curious as to how you figure out what it is.
Seth… It’s very simple.
Isabella… And I’m okay with not knowing right away because I know I am not going to figure it out right away.
Seth… Make a list of that which you enjoy. Make another list of that which would bother you and that you would not enjoy. And when you start making a list of that which you would enjoy you then work towards that.
Isabella… I know but I’ve done that. I’ve thought about those kinds of things.
Seth… Not thinking about it. It is putting pen to paper. I would enjoy becoming a medical person where I may help save someone’s life. I’m using it as an example. I would enjoy becoming a postal worker. All these ideas are certainly fair.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… And until you write down that which you would enjoy, that which you might not enjoy and then they do not have to be careers.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… You may decide for example becoming a therapist or why would anybody do that I do not know! (Kidding.)
Isabella… But that would be a career but okay.
Seth… But all these attributes you can put down for yourself. Do you understand?
Isabella… I understand but I still feel like, that goes back to what I want to be passionate about but that doesn’t necessarily…
Seth… The only one who can determine that is you.
Isabella… But I am having difficulties figuring what else I would want within my life at this…
Seth… Then you start out with that which you like, that which you do not like and something will fall into place. The worrying about it causes concern.
Isabella… I’m not worried, I am just have felt this way for awhile and I have…
Seth… That is worry. (Long pause.) That which you are not satisfied with and in doing nothing about is defined as I am worrying about something. Show me three positive things you have done with that thought.
Isabella… With what thought?
Seth… What you just said.
Isabella… Well, I’ve looked, I have done positive things. I looked up different educational programs at different colleges to see something that would interest me. I…
Seth… Other things other than being a teacher or involved in education.
Isabella… I have not gone outside of education.
Seth… Therefore, you are limiting yourself, my question is why?
Isabella… Well, the dog training thing, I have done.
Seth… And you will continue to do so. Only you may help yourself in this, there is nothing that anybody could do for you. What else?
Arthur… Alright let’s go to the therapist thing, what is the difference between the kind of stripping away that you’re talking about with the questions and either analysis, psychoanalysis or on the other hand over analysis? What, how can we define those differences?
Seth… You’re defining the differences from a therapeutic standpoint. I am defining these differences as what an individual must do. Therapists should only ask questions. They should never have an investment in the patient, meaning that which is going on so the patient keeps coming. Most therapists unfortunately use the patient and try to remold the patient instead of having the patient remold themselves. A patient who has been in therapy for five, ten, fifteen years is obviously at the wrong therapist and certainly has made no changes. Yet one therapist after another will keep saying, well you have a problem. Do you understand?
(This led to a number of questions and answers for therapists conducting therapy. Basically, Seth stated that therapists tend to ask negative or biased questions to their patients. For example, if a therapist asks how is that profitable for you? The patient knows that the therapist thinks it is not. Questions have to be as neutral as possible. One could ask, what are the pros and the cons to this situation? Another question might be: I see you are having difficulty with whatever that difficulty is, correct? How do you believe you can change your perceptions and the way you handle these difficulties? This forces the individual to look at himself and the difficulty in a different light. Still another question might be: Can you give me two or three possible steps you could take to improve this situation?
Seth also stated that when working with us if we become stuck and there is no wriggle room, he will give us information to give us a direction. He never tells us what to do. Essentially it is very important for therapists and teachers to never take away another’s free will. Creativity should come from the patient not from the therapist.)
Frank… At the beginning of this session…
Seth… Horrible session for you, go ahead.
Frank… You think? You mean a tough session? Why is it a horrible session for me?
Seth… Think about it.
Frank… I think that I touched upon some…
Seth… I’m not saying that it… horrible meaning exceptionally displeasing in terms of that which you have to confront.
Frank… Yes! (Laughs.)
Seth… Go ahead. And your question is?
Frank… The question had to do with being happy, if you are not happy…
Seth… Be happy.
Frank… you know then you must change?
Seth… If you choose to.
Frank… What you said at the beginning of session was that it is mandatory to change if you are dissatisfied with something…
Seth… If you are dissatisfied with the idea of being unhappy one must change into being happy.
Frank… Right.
Seth… If you are dissatisfied in the way in which your parenting skills are what do you have to do?
Frank… Come up with new ways to parent. Change it.
Seth… Simple, isn’t it?
Frank… And then the happiness comes from the…
Seth… The success.
Frank… creativity and the shifting of the change…
Seth… Correct.
Frank… and then you are happy with that layer and then maybe another level will appear.
Seth… Or and something underneath will show its ugly face.
Frank… But is the unhappiness then basically just you’re so stuck in something that…
Seth… Unhappiness is simply the idea that I am dissatisfied at any given point of reference with whatever.
Frank… Right, which usually implies is that I have been in this same place too long now, I’m not satisfied.
Seth… Or for the first time it matters not.
Frank… Right. Okay.
Seth… Let me leave you all with this: Look at the children around you, they are open, they are honest, their needs are easily fulfilled, and it is interesting to note that most adults are plagued by their wants. I bid you all a fond good evening.
(Session ended at 9:58 P.M.)
