Seth 354
Inner Turmoil and Establishing Inner Peace, Change Part and You Change the Whole
November 27, 2007
8:20 PM
Seth… Good evening, a pleasure to have all of you here again. A little bit of housekeeping that we shall engage in. Isabella?
Isabella… Yes.
Seth… How is the typing coming?
Isabella… Ummmmm…
Seth… That’s what I thought. And how many more weeks do you now have?
Isabella… That would be two weeks.
Seth… I believe you should make a sincere effort to do this.
Isabella… I did, I just wrote myself a big note, it says type session.
Seth… Now, next Isabella as long as we are on you, how is the reading coming with “The Secret”?
Isabella… It’s not.
Seth… I believe you should go back to it because I bel… I know from my research it would be immensely helpful to you.
Isabella… I will when I actually have a minute to breathe.
Seth… Are you breathing now?
Isabella… Am I sitting at the session?
Seth… You’re still breathing. Jasmine, how is the book coming with you?
Jasmine… I haven’t, I forgot about it.
Seth… I believe that it is also important for you to get back to that area. Kaetorina?
Stephanie… Yes?
Seth… We now have another long book for you…
Stephanie… Can’t wait.
Seth … to undertake. I believe the author is an excellent one. (Frank begins laughing.) You will find challenging and that of course is “The Nature of Personal Reality”.
Frank… (Said in a whisper.) That is a great book!
Stephanie… (Also said in a whisper.) He’s torturing me. (Muffled laughs.)
Seth… Oh, good I was going to give (Stephanie giggling.) you a long time. We’ll now shorten that to six months. Any other comments?
Isabella… Six months?
Seth… I’m lucky if she gets it done in three years. (Stephanie laughing.)
Isabella… That’s like a long time.
Stephanie… Didn’t I attempt to read this already?
Seth… No.
Stephanie… What did I read…
Isabella… Can I have six months?
Seth… No.
Stephanie… Oh, I read “Seth Speaks”. (People are talking at the same time.) I thought that was tough.
Isabella… Why?
Seth… Because the information there is so vital to you…
Frank… It’s better.
Stephanie… What?
Frank… “The Nature of Personal Reality” is better.
Seth… that you’re harming yourself by not attempting to do this and… (Isabella was grumbling, there was chatter and Isabella is giggling.) That being stated we know that our friend Frank who has attempting to erase most of what he typed so we can leave that alone.
Frank… Everything that you were talking about not to do, the Isabella talk all over again…
Isabella… Great.
Frank… After last week when I didn’t ask a question. (Frank laughs.)
Isabella… Shanna did.
Frank… Okay.
Jasmine… You were typing up a session?
Frank… A different session. (This is a bit convoluted, but I believe Frank was typing a section of a session that then got erased.)
Seth… Let us start, under our topic of Change: The physical plane is obviously a challenging, for many a disturbing area that one should use to allow themselves the opportunities for growth and development of the self. You are presented on a daily basis with disturbing and oft times frightening bits of information. One has tendencies to involve themselves in areas that cause difficulty for themselves or others. Far too often one makes a choice… (A phone rang and there was a long pause with chit chat.) We shall continue: One makes a choice either to accept others’ informational bits or to reject them.
The question arises if you reject that which has been offered to you, are you indeed promoting self in a fair and just manner? Same may be said from the opposite standpoint. One of the more interesting difficulties here is the inner turmoil that souls have when they routinely accept or reject either standpoint. Conflicts arise, first within the self and then with the others that surrounds that particular individual. What each individual must seek to establish is inner peace. Period.
It is obvious that the conflict can only be resolved by allowing a mixture of acceptance and rejection of information that is presented to our individual soul. It is this dichotomy if you will of acceptance or rejection that causes difficulties. One must never exclude or accept as a routine. Although a simple sounding statement the facts of acceptance or rejection become obvious to others first and then to the individual self. For most it is exceptionally difficult to find inner peace knowing that there are some who approve and others who reject your individual viewpoints. Commonly one must obtain a large variety of information from various honorable sources so that one may carefully weigh and measure the information that is necessary for effective change to take place. That which appears profitable at one point of reference is quite often misinterpreted and delusional when viewed from a different point of reference. Therefore, one must make peace with themselves.
Give us a moment, (At this point Seth researches and Jerry’s head goes back and forth as if reading extremely fast.) peace itself may be likened to winter, the icy winds, the blanket of snow covers up the ground, individuals tend to stay inside, contemplation often occurs during this season. Reflection on summer’s glorious days becomes necessary to achieve balance within and without. That which you are during winter gives one the opportunity to allow the embers of change to slowly grow. The bulbs of spring’s coming are not quiet. They learn from the coldness that slows them down and as the first rays of the spring’s summer events if you will cause increasing prosperity to our flowers. So, they must review.
Winter is a time for reflection and contemplation of that which you have been dissatisfied with or contented with. For in reality there is no difference. Information that you think is not profitable often is. The peaceful warmth of a fire, the view of a snowy landscape, the comforting meal all will give you inner peace. Growth is achieved by change.
Remember you are what you are. One may say that you sow what you reap, or do you reap what you have sown; all depends on your viewpoint. Life itself requires a painstaking dedication to understanding that which you experience as necessary for your ultimate success. Of course, one may have difficulty. Mistakes are always necessary for your growth and development. How one chooses to gather their harvest depends upon your own flexibility. Is it necessary to gather what is unpleasant? The answer should be obvious. Each of you have a responsibility to learn to say no. That is just as profitable as learning to say yes.
Change itself is necessary on a day-to-day basis. If your viewpoints are always the same my question to you is what have you learned? Freedom of choice, free will become necessary if inner peace is to be achieved. The question arises: how do you know or understand, if you will, if you are too dependent on others? And the answer is quite simple; if you cannot make a decision by yourself, you are too dependent.
This does not mean that the others who surround you and their opinions are not important. Quite commonly our individual, like our friend Frank gets lost within the forest and does not see his way out. Therefore, the others who surround him would be remiss if they did not offer an opinion.
Now the conflict arises. What does one do especially if you have a situation when you feel lost or neglected when the answers are scarce since you have not studied for this examination? Use your resources, use eyes that do not see, use ears that do not hear, meditate, open yourself up to yourself so that you may feel the warmth that the universe provides even when the cold winds that torture an individual blow around you.
Peace and prosperity are yours. You attract what you choose to attract and discard that which is not profitable. Each of you must be aware that your perceptions are created by you. If you do not enjoy, if something is distasteful who has responsibility for the bitter aftertaste of those situations? Who suffers? Those are the type of questions that one must seek in order to find inner peace even when you are content and are enjoying the meal that you have so carefully prepared.
When your crops are flourishing, the harvest will be prosperous. One must never forget that winter is coming. Change is inevitable. Do you choose to make it better, more prosperous, more effective or do you choose to become stagnant and eventually accept the mediocre which will fall away into despair and unhappiness? Inner peace is something that each of you must strive for on a day-to-day moment-to-moment basis. Challenges are many. The mountain is difficult to climb. The road is froth with danger. Yet each of you have surmounted obstacles that you cannot and at this point of reference fathom.
Isabella… Each of us have what?
Seth… Surmounted obstacles that at this point of reference you cannot fathom. Do not drown your worries and certainly do not take on the difficulties of others. The conflict that is there must be viewed as an opportunity for self assessment and growth. Inner peace is what you strive to attain. By constant change you will be able to focus your energies.
Jasmine… Constant change by? (The material was repeated by group members so that Jasmine could write it down.) By constant change, then what?
Stephanie… you will be able to focus…
Seth… the vast resources of the universe to assist you in finding your way where heretofore you will have felt lost and abandoned. Choose prosperity even if it is the more difficult road. Choose self over others but use the others in an effective manner even if they displease you.
I believe at this point we shall take a break.
Seth… Let us continue: Isabella, you may feel free to stop me with this question, but I believe it will be of great significance for you to look at this in terms of the recent discussions here at the table. Do you remember an incident when you were in high school with your former boyfriend?
Isabella… A specific incident?
Seth… One may consider…
Isabella… Yes.
Seth… from your point of view as unfavorable.
Isabella… Yes.
Seth… Do you not view that incident in a vastly different manner…
Isabella… Now.
Seth… then now? Has your past then changed? Because you’re on a different path now so that your viewpoints of then to now are completely different. Now I am not saying that you would not be upset, you would not be bothered, you would not be frustrated but in the largest of all possible ideas that which you create now because that is where your point of power is, write this down: That which you create now is different, write this down, is different from that which you created then.
Isabella… Of significant difference?
Seth… The entire incident is different. You cannot change a part without changing the whole. Write that down too.
Isabella… That which you create now is different from that…
Seth… which you created then.
Jasmine… In the past, can you say in the past?
Seth… Use my words they’re much more effective.
Jasmine… Created then?
Seth… Then.
Frank… You cannot change a part without changing a whole.
Seth… You cannot change a part of anything without change affecting the whole. Therefore, your greatest point of power is now and you use your strength to change the direction that you seek to move towards.
Stephanie… You use your strength to change the direction that you seek to move towards.
Seth… If you are doing things effectively, obviously. Is that a specific enough idea for you to grasp change in terms of past present and futuristic ideas?
Isabella… Yes, because the incident that occurred then doesn’t nearly affect me as negatively as the one… you know what I mean?
Seth… Obviously, there is no question about this.
Isabella… No obviously that one, that specific incident …
Seth… Has changed.
Isabella… lost value.
Seth… Yes, the value, the weight…
Isabella… The weight of it, I mean.
Seth… The weight is not anymore and that is the reason when you are on a different path, you’ve had to have changed your past because you could not be on the same path as you were.
Isabella… Right, no that’s… I get it.
Seth… The same may be true and said of another incident in terms of not getting your tenure. How important is that incident at this point of reference as compared to that point of reference?
Isabella… It’s not.
Seth… It becomes insignificant, does it not?
Isabella… Yes.
Seth… And in fact, the longer and further out you go the more insignificant it becomes to a point where one can say, it didn’t matter.
Isabella… Now, would that be the same thing with all incidences, I mean…
Seth… Depending upon…
Isabella… like with the divorce, let’s just say. You see but I feel that, that incident is like gone already.
Seth… That incident has, are you asking a question?
Isabella… Sure, I’m asking a question. (Frank laughs.)
Seth… That incident has not been properly examined and it has not been properly examined because there is far too great a weight that surrounds you with this incident.
There are many ramifications of that incident itself. It has many tentacles if you will.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… So that the idea is I may be fine with this point here but the other nine hundred are not fine. I am using this as an example of an idea. Your existence, I do not mean you…
Isabella… Yeah, but you… you…
Seth… in general. Your, let me finish please, your existence here is not, not you, is not a simple classification of incidences. One incident that you create leads to another which has an effect on an incident over here which affected your past and your present. One incident over here affects your viewpoint of how you relate to others, how you see others, how you deal with others. So, when I state to you clearly and I do that this incident has not been carefully enough researched on your part my answer must stand as fact.
Isabella… But what about, what about the, we, you and I have discussed many facets of that…
Seth… We certainly have.
Isabella… And the loss pieces and how it is not really a loss and all that sort of thing.
Seth… Those are a small portion.
Isabella… What else am I missing?
Seth… I cannot tell you. I cannot tell you because that would take away your free-will and because it would take away your free-will the choice of examining them or not for that matter is of course and should always be up to you.
Isabella… And will be.
Seth… Do you understand?
Isabella… Yes.
Frank… The weight of any incident or group of incidents is detected by the use of feelings?
Seth… Most likely not. Feelings are just an emotion that may be positive or negative, they just are. The weight of something is the value and the importance that one receives from it. Value fulfillment, you understand this concept?
Frank… Yes, Seth.
Seth… So, the weight here is determined by the value fulfillment of the idea.
Frank… One of the things that Isabella is dealing with is the concept of denying at different points the weight of something.
Seth… Perfectly legitimate for her, that is her choice. One must defend the idea that I refuse to look at something. One must accept the idea that I choose to believe and it’s not, I am not talking about Isabella now, this is in generalized statement that is vital, and you may all write this down for all of you. One must look at the idea and defend the principle of not looking at things or if one chooses to believe what they choose to believe. That does not make it correct, it does not make it incorrect. It is at that point of reference that I choose not to create that which is necessary for me or not necessary for me.
Frank… That’s because without that there would be no free-will?
Seth… I can camouflage it, so I don’t have to look at it now.
Frank… That’s because of an exercise of free-will?
Seth… (Isabella began to say something.) I’m not talking about you.
Isabella… You said, Isabella’s in denial.
Seth… And what did I say?
Isabella… You said no but I am curious…
Seth… I said that I am not specifically talking about you.
Isabella… No, I know but he said that you know Isabella is in denial…
Frank… Just as an example, I mean I didn’t say that specifically. (Frank continued to explain which is not clear on the tape but ended with.) I’ll use myself. (Isabella giggled.) The idea of the loss of my parents and now being time to…
Seth… Have you grieved, have you grieved properly? And if not, why not? And if so, why so?
Frank… That’s an open question. I would probably say no.
Seth… And therefore, let us assume that your assessment of the idea is factual then the question is what is preventing you from looking at those incidents in a profitable manner and the answer is because I choose not to because it is painful, difficult, upsetting, all these things I can camouflage over by not. In other words, you are studying here something that is a remnant of something past. What you are not! And the things that you pick up from previous incarnations, previous lines of study all have to do with something you are not in this instance.
Jasmine… Not looking.
Seth… Or refusal to. That does not make it incorrect.
Jasmine… But won’t it impede growth?
Seth… You cannot fail! If you do not get it in this lifetime, you will get it in the next. For example, Jasmine, one may then ask a simple question of you. How profitable is it for you to enmesh yourself in other’s plays?
Jasmine… Not at all.
Seth… Then please explain to me why you still do this as a routine and the answer is because I have no way to control myself. Therefore, I cover up what I am and pick up what someone else is; for it is easier for me because that is what I was taught. I was taught this over lifetimes. So, until you decide not to be taught over lifetimes and you learn to place yourself squarely at center where your greatest point of power is then of course you will then say well that’s an interesting line of study I don’t choose to look at it or play with it. I do not have to accept that idea. I may feel badly about what you are doing. I may be concerned for you, but I am not going to become that. I’m going to say; interesting let’s move on. Do you understand? It is what you are creating at that instant. That is why in dealing with the idea of “The Secret” for you and of course you (Isabella) becomes vitally important. Do you understand?
Jasmine… Em.
Frank… So, does it matter whether to determine if something is heavily valued?
Seth… Of course. You automatically know whether something has an intrinsic value or weight if you will.
Frank… How?
Seth… By your ideas on the subject line in question.
Frank… By being curious?
Seth… No, by having it constantly there with you.
Frank… If it bothers you?
Seth… No, you may enjoy it and it may be just as detrimental…
Frank… If you enjoy it.
Seth… as not.
Frank… You just feel the weight?
Seth… It’s not weight, you become, you’re aware. A good example here, give us a moment. (Jerry’s head move back and forth while Seth researches.) For example, when Jasmine has something that is bothering her it will disturb her periods of rest. She will wake up with it. It becomes a weighty issue for her. The same may be said for you. One should not overanalyze this, you understand intrinsically and by the you I do not mean any specific individual, I just specifically mean everyone.
Frank… I’m trying to work out the balance between the idea of denying or refusing to look at something and when one decides okay… now.
Seth… When one wants to.
Frank… I just think…
Seth… For example, I gave Kaetorina information today. It was invaluable to her. The question arises, why didn’t you tell me this before? How come I didn’t think of it? The answer is quite simple because you didn’t. Would she use the information? I don’t know and it does not concern me. Will it be profitable for her if she does? Of course. Will it be profitable for her if she doesn’t? Of course. The only one who can make those decisions is of course Kaetorina. But the information itself is presented. Now one may ask do you feel foolish about it? Do you feel upset by it? Are you happy by it? However, one would choose to define that as long as the information is there. You may choose to accept or reject, partially accept, partially reject. I am just a simple teacher and I give you information and you may choose to do with it as you choose to do with it. Use the information to create or not. It matters not. So, if you make a mistake then I have done a wonderful thing for you, I’ve allowed it.
Frank… How volitional is something like denial? It doesn’t feel volitional, but I have a sense that it is.
Shanna… I don’t know what you mean by “volitional”.
Frank… Choice.
Seth… Your choices are your choices. If you choose not to see what others see, if you choose to believe that you are correct, and they are wrong so be it. Even if you are incorrect, it matters not. Who suffers if you make an error?
Frank… Well, possibly me, possibly…
Seth… No one! Because the truth of the matter really is it doesn’t matter. Learning is learning. Whether the answer is positive or negative, but one must always be open to learning. It is the camouflaging and the refusal to listen that is the detriment. That is the problem in and of itself.
Frank… Isn’t denial a refusal to listen?
Seth… Absolutely not. Denial is not taking information that is presented to you in a way tht could be beneficial, I don’t want to do that. Don’t see it that way. You are wrong.
Jasmine… That’s the rejection you were talking about earlier.
Seth… Correct.
Jasmine… You’ve listened to it, but you’ve chosen to reject it.
Seth… You may choose to reject it and I give you great praise if you do. I also give you great praise if you don’t, for it matters not.
Jasmine… Well, I don’t agree with that.
Seth… Please show me how I am wrong.
Jasmine… I don’t agree with that.
Seth… I understand that. Please show me how I’m wrong.
Jasmine… Well for me.
Frank… Is that refusal or denial? (Light laughter.)
Jasmine… I just feel if you are… what I say? (Group loud laughter.)
Seth… I believe Seth one, Jasmine zero. (A lot of group conversation.)
Jasmine… You said it doesn’t matter whether you word it or not.
Seth… Correct, it does not.
Jasmine… And I said I disagree.
Seth… Whether you use it or not either for that matter.
Jasmine… Yeah, I disagree.
Seth… Show me how I am wrong.
Jasmine… Because I would rather learn it.
Seth… Oh, you want to learn something?
Jasmine… So that’s a want?
Seth… Of course, that’s what you’re talking about.
Jasmine… No, I would, not want; I would rather invest in a change.
Seth… Then please show me how you do this routinely.
Jasmine… I don’t necessarily do it.
Seth… Therefore…
Jasmine… That’s the thing I don’t agree with what you’re saying that it doesn’t matter.
Seth… It of course does not matter.
Jasmine… I’m saying to you that I know that I don’t do it and to me it does matter because it keeps me in an unhappy place.
Seth… But who is choosing to stay there?
Jasmine… I’m choosing it.
Seth… Then therefore it didn’t matter.
Jasmine… Therefore, it matters.
Seth… No, it does not matter.
Jasmine… Does matter… in the long run.
Seth… The reason that it does not matter Jasmine, is because you cannot learn. When a scientist creates an experiment is a positive answer just as valid as a negative answer?
Jasmine… In scientific experiments, yes.
Seth… What are you but an experiment of self who is here to learn? What are you here to do?
Jasmine… To learn.
Seth… To experience.
Jasmine… Em hmm.
Seth… Well, is it not just as profitable to experience something that is positive as well as to experience something that is negative?
Jasmine… Possibly.
Frank… But she’s saying, it’s not enjoyable and therefore since its not enjoyable that’s what…
Seth… I would have rather that she would come to that conclusion herself.
Jasmine… I would eventually come to that. That’s the whole crux of it. Who wants to suffer over and over and over?
Isabella… Stephanie does. (Laughter.)
Seth… What is the most sought after positions on the physical plane?
Jasmine… You know what, they can have it. (Group conversation.) I don’t want that position.
Seth… You have taken many of them…
Jasmine… Yeah, well…
Seth… and you will still from my research will take many more; for those give you the greatest opportunity of learning.
Isabella… Yay! I’m not taking any of them.
Frank… Could you…
Isabella… I’m not, right?
Seth… You will take many.
Isabella… No, I will not. That is my biggest fear. (Group conversation and laughter.)
Stephanie… I’ll be your Social Worker.
Seth… Or crippled or handicapped in any way.
Isabella… No, being handicapped I could deal with fine, it’s the mentally ill that I can’t handle.
Frank… You don’t know that.
Isabella… No, I’m serious.
Seth… I understand that therefore what can I guarantee you?
Isabella… There you go. I’m not taking it. I’m taking a respite on the next lifetime. (Stephanie laughs.)
Seth… Who says it has to be in the next lifetime?
Isabella… I’m telling you right now I’m taking a respite.
Jasmine… Isabella, can we be on the same cloud? (Group laughter.)
Frank… Refusal, the concept of refusal?
Seth… The concept of refusal.
Frank… Could you explain how that’s different from denial?
Seth… When one has information…
Jasmine… I know that.
Seth… Go ahead.
Jasmine… Well, a person can refuse to change; you know they just can’t make the change. They refuse to make the change but…
Isabella… Not that they can’t, they don’t want to.
Seth… Yes, so they’re refusing to.
Isabella… Right.
Jasmine… Because they don’t want to.
Isabella… You can always change.
Jasmine… But they are not in denial of the fact that they need to. I know that…
Isabella… It’s refusal when you know.
Jasmine… I know I need to make changes! I’m not looking at it and saying you’re absolutely wrong, that’s not the case, that’s totally untrue, that’s denial.
Frank… But so there could be an admixture of those things, no?
Isabella… Yes.
Jasmine… I know for sure that I’m making mistakes. I just can’t do anything about it.
Frank… Like Stephanie…
Seth… Can’t or won’t.
Jasmine… Won’t.
Seth… That’s correct.
Stephanie… And then that’s connected to the readiness factor?
Seth… Of course.
Frank… Right.
Stephanie… And that’s why you say that those are the things that are valuable because it brings you to readiness?
Seth… Never get there unless you try.
Isabella… Can you help me with my lost jewelry?
Seth… No (Stephanie laughs.) and let me explain why.
Isabella… Heart broken.
Seth… I understand that. That which you do not know, that which is missing or hidden from you would be a violation of free-will.
Isabella… What!?
Seth… Let me explain it in this way. Who lost the articles in question? If you lost the articles in question who should be responsible for finding them?
Isabella… I’ve been looking.
Seth… I understand and you will continue to look until you find them. (Isabella takes a heavy breath.) Remember if I give you a lack of free-will in one area would that not give you a lack of free will in all?
Isabella… It’s not a lack of free-will.
Seth… Of course, it is.
Isabella… How is that lack of free-will?
Seth… Because you are the one who is responsible for your actions or inactions.
Isabella… Fine.
Seth… Glad to see that you’re so happy with that.
Isabella… Well, I am very upset about this.
Seth… I believe that you are. I have no problem with that.
Frank… You’re just a simple teacher.
Seth… Difficult but simple
Frank… I’m just a country doctor, (Said with a rural accent. Stephanie laughs.)
Isabella… On a country road.
Arthur… That leads back to the same place.
Seth… And have you really left?
Isabella… Yes, I’ve left many places.
Jasmine… Well, if nothing changed along the way, yeah.
Seth… Have you started?
Are there any other questions?
Shanna… I have a question. Okay it’s unrelated but my family is like all wondering this and wanted me to come to you with this question is as you know my niece already, you know who she is, (Shanna laughs.) the one who sees spirits. We’re wondering if, is it possible that she is the same soul as my Great Nana?
Seth… No.
Shanna… No. So, anything like that we’ve seen or heard is, are coincidences?
Seth… Not because of coincidence but it’s… she’s an individual onto herself. Your Great Grandmother is not reincarnated at this point.
Shanna… Okay. And then the other question I have for you is regarding one of my students that I am having difficulty with that I could use some help with.
Seth… What difficulty are you having?
Shanna… Um, the difficulty I am having is that my student is having some difficultly with adhering to classroom rules and routines.
Seth… Look at the home environment.
Shanna… Okay but this is what the difficulty I have and there are issues going on. The difficulty that I’m having, there are moments with the boy that I can’t tell if he’s manipulating me.
Seth… Of course, he is.
Shanna… So, if I think he is manipulating me am I best to ignore his behaviors? Or am I…
Seth… Challenge never ignore; because if you ignore the behavior is then re-stimulated to give you more of the same.
Shanna… Right but when I challenge him on his behavior it sometimes, I’m ignored by him.
Seth… Of course.
Shanna… So then…
Seth… What is he doing with his parental supervision at home? He ignores it.
Shanna… He’s ignoring them, right so…
Seth… He is using what he learned.
Shanna… So, at that point when he’s ignoring me…
Seth… You can ask questions.
Shanna… But I’m not even getting a response.
Seth… Then it is your responsibility as a teacher to take him aside or put him aside and say until you can answer my questions you stay here.
Shanna… Okay and that’s what I have done. So, I have to continue to do that?
Seth… Correct because that will break the cycle of ignoring.
Shanna… Right because I expect an answer.
Seth… You expect an answer.
Shanna… Okay. (Isabella said something that was not clear about the child.)
Oh no he is fully enthralled about that.
Seth… Of course, it gives him attention.
Shanna… He also pees in his pants like three times a day.
Stephanie… Oh great.
Seth… That is anger.
Shanna… Yeah, he is doing it on purpose. I know.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… Ah, can you just comment on how when one is not at center how does one try to get square at center, when they keep placing themselves off?
Seth… Write this down. When one is ill at ease one is of course aware. One creates from any various areas but what is not profitable is the creations that occur in combination with others that do not suit your purposes.
Isabella… Creates from any various areas but what is not profitable?
Jasmine… Are the creations that are in combination?
Stephanie… That occur in combination…
Seth… with others…
Stephanie… with others that do not suit your purposes.
Seth… that do not suit your purposes. A simple example of this may be seen with the idea that when one enmeshes themselves if you will or puts themselves in another’s shoes you are off center. Your sense of judgment is questionable. You feel immediately uncomfortable because you cannot adjust what you create adequately. For in most cases, it is not your play.
Isabella… So, you know George today was having an awful day at work in regards to having some political issues and then he had tremendous anxiety issues which interestingly enough are very similar to what I had been experiencing at school two years ago and again the same with the anxiety piece and he actually mentioned similar illnesses that I’ve had such as the brain tumor and all sorts of stuff. But I, even though I am trying not to, but I can understand where he is coming from because I’ve been there and I’ve had almost the exact same situation just in two different settings, him in the hospital and myself at school. I’m not trying to put myself in his play, but I can understand where he is coming from.
Seth… I can understand somebody who breaks an arm and has pain.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… So, can you.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… But that does not mean I want to break my arm and have pain.
Isabella… No and I don’t want to take on his problems.
Seth… Can you fix it?
Isabella… No, I can’t fix it.
Seth… Then…
Isabella… I’ve provided the outlet he needs to fix it and it’s whether or not he chooses to do it.
Seth… That is his problem.
Isabella… No, I understand that.
Seth… It is also for him in a much larger sense a social adjustment issue.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… In terms of his inability, if you will, to relate since he has difficulty in adjusting himself and feeling profitable about himself. So, he has difficulty in relating himself to others and it is easier for him to look at the negative of anything than it is to accept what he does not enjoy as compared to what he would like to enjoy. You understand?
Isabella… To accept what he does not enjoy…
Seth… It is far easier for an individual who does not like themselves who is not content with himself to accept what he does not like since that is where his point of reference is, I do not!
Isabella… So, but what is he accepting?
Seth… He accepts that, it is easier to accept that which he does not enjoy meaning, I don’t like this hospital, I don’t like this place of business, I don’t want to do this, I don’t want to do that, this over here would be great but I know I am not going to get that and I will not get that. He creates from the negative instead of from the positive so he accepts that which it is not as compared to that which it should be.
Isabella… Uh huh. Okay but that is very similar to what I was doing until I had had enough.
Seth… Correct and then you didn’t, and your past changed.
Isabella… So then… And my past changed. So now can I use that information? Can I give him that information?
Seth… Can you give him what your information is or what I just said?
Isabella… Well, why wouldn’t, well you were the one who gave me the original information.
Seth… And who is that pertaining to?
Isabella… Me but isn’t it, isn’t it similar?
Seth… Similar is not exact.
Shanna… You were still creating from the negative…
Seth… You may give him…
Isabella… Yeah, I was creating from the negative.
Seth… You may give him what I just said.
Isabella… Right about not creating from the negative and creating from the positive.
Seth… Correct.
Isabella… Accepting, and is it about accepting what is not?
Seth… It is about accepting himself.
Isabella… Okay. So, it’s just accepting what is.
Seth… He has… no. It is much more than that. It is complicated.
Isabella… Okay.
Seth… This individual soul…
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… does not like himself. He is confused, he is bothered, he is upset. That is evident, that you have no problem with that, do you?
Isabella… No.
Seth… And since he cannot do this at this point of reference then it is not your responsibility to attempt to change his viewpoints.
Isabella… I’m not trying; I’m not attempting to change his viewpoints. I know I can’t.
Seth… The only thing you must do is give him information.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… And the information that you give must be tailored to a specific set of ideas. You understand?
Isabella… Yes.
Seth… Therefore, what I stated is very clear…
Isabella… Uh huh.
Seth… pertaining to exactly George.
Isabella… Okay so not coming, so that he should try to not come from negative.
Seth… No, he must change himself. He must attempt to change his viewpoint of self. And until he is capable of doing this…
Isabella… He’s never going to be happy.
Seth… Nothing will make him content.
Isabella… Right, I mean even if he got the surgical residency, it’s not going to make him happy.
Seth… Even if he won a hundred-million-dollar lotto.
Isabella… Right but I know that, and I have said that already, I know and I’ve said that to him.
Seth… So, what question do you have?
Isabella… Ah, I didn’t have a question I was just curious about the similarities and if I could, if there was a way, I could be of assistance by sharing my circumstance.
Seth… No and in fact that may make him feel worse.
Isabella… Why.
Seth… Did you overcome them?
Isabella… Yes, but wouldn’t that be hopeful?
Seth… No. It is because when somebody is mired down in unhappiness…
Isabella… Uh huh.
Seth… Seeing someone who is successfully completed it makes them angry jealous and bothered.
Isabella… Okay… I see that.
Seth… For a great many people, it is the rare individual who says I can do better.
Isabella… Right, right.
Seth… He is not one of them.
Isabella… I see.
Seth… Are there…
Isabella… I asked him flat out if my speech helped him and he said, no.
Shanna… What speech?
Isabella… When I was on the phone with him.
Seth… Something I researched.
Isabella… I said, you know I was giving him, I said the same exact thing happened to me and I had issues with political problems and…
Seth… Again, you are coming from a positive perspective. He doesn’t own that yet.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Jasmine… And you asked if what you said to him helped?
Isabella… I said, did you know if my speech helped right now and he said, not right now.
Seth… The answer was no.
Isabella… Right. I mean I can understand that if you are not ready to hear anything then you can’t hear it.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Matthew… Ah yes, I mean ah, me and Shanna had spoken…
Seth… Shanna and I.
Matthew… Shanna and I, I don’t care. (Frank laughs.)
Seth… Did I do that well enough for you? (Group talking at the same time.)
Isabella… Done very well.
Matthew… I’m just a simple teacher.
Seth… That was done for you.
Isabella… I know. (Isabella is a 7th grade English teacher.)
Frank… He teaches grammar. (Frank laughs.)
Isabella… The English thing for me is like family.
Matthew… I know, I teach Special Ed so… (Stephanie roars, Frank joins in and then the rest of the group laughs.) They don’t notice as much, not as much as you guys but ah… (It has been interesting to note when transcribing how difficult it is for Seth students to verbalize clear sentences and thoughts while Seth’s communications are not only clear but many layered. F.N.)
Frank… You teach the special slots! (Referring to Seth’s comments that those lives that are difficult such as those with disabilities or mental illness are sought after slots by souls since the learning involved is increased.)
Matthew… I do. Shanna and I have spoken about that notion of a spirit family.
Isabella… Soul family.
Matthew… Soul family, I’m sorry, soul family. I was wondering what is the connection that exists between you and your soul family? What is the…
Seth… Soul families change over points of reference. Soul families are a group of individuals…
Matthew… Right.
Seth… who are first created at a specific point of reference. But that is a generally a very large number of souls.
Matthew… Okay.
Seth… But what you mean by soul family are a small group of individual souls who happen at any given point of reference to be interested in similar ideas and similar lines of study.
Matthew… Okay. So, does that change?
Seth… Of course. When you become disinterested…
Matthew… Right.
Seth… you will move from soul family A to B to C to D to one to a hundred and fifty, it doesn’t matter how you name them. But you will change.
Jasmine… In different incarnations though, right?
Seth… No.
Jasmine… Within the same incarnation?
Seth… No, over different areas of lines of study, for example, you are learning how to no longer absorb negative energy. You’re learning how to discard them, in a simplistic manner.
Jasmine… You bet I am! (Stephanie laughs.)
Stephanie… Love that.
Seth… Now, when you are no longer interested in that line of study…
Jasmine… Right.
Seth… you’ll change your soul family.
Jasmine… Here! On the physical plane?
Seth… No.
Jasmine… Up there.
Stephanie… Yes.
Isabella… Before you… come back.
Jasmine… Come back, (Said at the same time as Isabella.)
Seth… No, you will change actually like changing a classroom in a school.
Isabella… Yeah, no, I understand that, before you come back. You go into a different classroom to learn.
Seth… It is not, it is not necessarily coming back or not coming back.
Shanna… It’s the group that you are traveling with.
Isabella… Yeah, I understand that totally.
Jasmine… But don’t you incarnate with your soul family since you, because you are studying the same thing?
Frank… No.
Isabella… Not all at the same time.
Seth… Not necessarily, very commonly you do not.
Shanna… But if they are not ready to reincarnate then they’re… (Not clear but something to the effect of souls continue their studies.)
Jasmine… I forgot about that.
Shanna… Don’t you think, I mean I don’t want to interject what I think. When I was talking and having a conversation with Matt and I was just saying that how when I read, “Journey of Souls” it really cleared me up on all these kind of things, would that benefit Matt maybe?
Seth… Not at this point he has too many beginning books to read.
Stephanie… So, you don’t have to wait for the end of a grand cycle to change your soul family?
Seth… You have already had hundreds of different soul families at your point of existence.
Shanna… It’s like fluid, ever changing.
Stephanie… Okay.
Isabella… Then why would we have been in numerous lifetimes together?
Seth… What does the word numerous mean to you?
Isabella… Hundreds, thousands.
Seth… No, numerous means that there have been a number of lifetimes that you have had with other individuals.
Isabella… Em.
Seth… That is not all of them. There are members of your soul family that you have discarded if you will and have not been together with them as a soul family in numerous lifetimes because your lines of study have departed from theirs.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Stephanie… But you’re no longer than part of that soul family.
Seth… No, you’ve moved away.
Stephanie… Yeah right, okay.
Seth… But that doesn’t mean that you still do not recognize them. You may have an affinity towards someone that you see, and you do not know why and they’re completely different from you but you have an affinity towards them because you once were a member of their soul family or they yours.
Isabella… Okay so now like when we go back, when we pass over and we see each other all up there we might decide that we don’t want to all come back again? Or we might decide…
Seth… For example, let us assume that there are now a few people sitting around this table, let us assume two individuals decide that they are no longer interested in this type of a relationship they will change their soul family.
Shanna… But the others will remain.
Seth… Correct.
Frank… Others may also come.
Shanna… Right. Or go somewhere else, right?
Seth… It is that simple.
Isabella… You two are leaving. (Laughing.)
Shanna… Out of here. (Laughing.)
Stephanie… We are not.
Matthew… So, there is no constant, plural that as far as soul family… there is no continuity, are you always going to move in and out?
Seth… The only ones that who you have a greater tendency to be with are souls of your own soul age group, those who in which you were created with.
Matthew… But that’s the only plural that…
Seth… That mass if you will, of souls will all move at approximately the same rates.
Shanna… And by age you don’t mean how many times you’ve reincarnated…
Seth… No.
Shanna… it means how far along you are in the spiritual world.
Isabella… Now we are all similar soul ages… oh, we’re not?
Seth… Would you say you’re all mature souls?
Isabella… Right.
Seth… But what happens for example if you have two who are on mature soul age level three, step four. Others may be on mature soul age seven, step seven. That is vastly different.
Isabella… Em.
Seth… Their viewpoints are different. They will tend to look at things differently. They will tend to be more alike than dis-alike.
Isabella… Em hmm.
Seth… Because they have put most of the ideas of relationship issues behind them if you will.
Are there any other questions there?
No Frank, I will not tell you where you are.
Frank… You’ve already told me where I was.
Seth… Good, where are you?
Frank… I could look back, I don’t recall. I think I’m… seven (mature soul age), (level) seven, (steps) three or five. It doesn’t matter.
Seth… No of course not. (Stephanie laughs as Seth’s tone indicated that Frank does care about this sort of thing.)
Isabella… Three and a half two minus six.
Stephanie… Alright, you still didn’t answer, alright so once you’re here and you’re uncomfortable because you are enmeshed so in concrete terms, how would one get themselves to square center?
Seth… When you are uncomfortable with an idea or feeling, a sense of what you are…
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… one then is instinctively aware of what they are doing and why they are uncomfortable.
Stephanie… But why can they not send themselves back to center?
Seth… They choose not to. Remember, the experiment of experience is as valuable with negative answers and outcomes as it is with positive ones.
Stephanie… But would you say that the person truly doesn’t go back to center because they are not ready to go back yet? They’re still choosing not to.
Seth… The choice in creativity… they are still enjoying…
Stephanie… They enjoy being off center.
Seth… No, they are enjoying what they are doing.
Stephanie… Alright well in this case it’s off center.
Seth… Acceptable but a poor choice but go ahead.
Stephanie… Alright but their physical plane self will state, I am uncomfortable, I don’t like this but still stay.
Seth… Correct, until they decide not to.
Stephanie… Okay.
Frank… Isn’t this also why meditation is helpful because at least in that moment one is attempting to move to center?
Seth… Of course, it causes you to refocus your energies and to gather in from the universe that which you require.
Stephanie… Right so and if one doesn’t do that let’s say one might have to have as many distasteful moments of being off center as possible to get them to choose the other.
Seth… Correct.
Frank… But in terms of the pieces, he just said if you recognize that you’re in somebody else’s play and not your own and you don’t like it you can get out of their play.
Jasmine… That’s easier said than done.
Stephanie… If you choose to truly, do it, right. It’s not easy. If you invest… you know people can be invested in being off centered.
Seth… It is the camouflage system that is here at work. If I don’t show that I care, if I don’t show that I love you, if I do not show that I can help you…
Jasmine… Is that the key.
Seth… then I am not a good person.
Jasmine… If loved was viewed… if enmeshment was viewed as love, that’s what was taught.
Seth… Of course, it was.
Jasmine… Then that was what I was taught.
Frank… Right but there are other lessons too. If you remember that you were taught that to truly…
Seth… Let me finish with this then I shall stick around. (At this point the tape ran out, this was a rare occurrence perhaps the first time that this occurred. Rare because Seth is usually aware somehow that the tape would need to be flipped. The following is from written notes F.N.)
The idea here of inner peace allows change to occur and when change occurs your needs are met, wanting decreases. Contemplate winter as the precursor to spring, summer and autumn. I bid you all a fond good evening.
(Sunday February 25, 2018. While Jerry and I were editing this session, Seth came through with this addendum. I did ask Seth why he didn’t include this the first time back around in 2007 and he replied, a familiar phrase, “You weren’t ready.” Apparently, the reader is ready as this material is together in one place and can be read over and over again. F.N.)
Important facets here, the concept of the establishment of the whole if you will. Far too many individuals choose to believe and act in a segmented mother or father portion, single or married portion, work and play portion of the entire self. Each individual should always be considering the whole; when you fragment yourself, you are in a void, lose power, dragged off center! To truly understand the whole, you must always attempt to view yourself as a whole entity. If you are having difficulty with let us say your job, your abilities to function in the other portions of your existence becomes more difficult. When one is not content or is unhappy the whole suffers even if that unhappiness is infinitesimally small portion of the whole. It is necessary for all individuals to re-center themselves so that they may view their incarnation existence as the whole. Individuals who step away from their incarnation in various destructive manners such as suicide must repeat even the most profitable lessons that they have learned due to the fact that the difficult lessons, the ones that cause tragedy, severe unhappiness, depression are just as important as those that produced great happiness. I have routinely stated that you cannot have up without down or right without left. It is true that difficult times and hardships occur for everyone. It is the intelligent individual who understands this and looks to the future to find the correct path for salvation. Simply put, when the difficult times end the whole individual has changed and a new dawn will arise!
