Seth 370
Three Things That Can Destroy an Incarnation: Anger, Pride and Unforgivingness
Tuesday April 22, 2008
8:30 PM
(It should be noted that this is Stephanie’s first missed session ever. Jerry)
Seth… Good evening, a pleasure to have all of you here this evening. We shall do a small bit of housekeeping here and I would like what I say taken down exactly. You are to tell Kaetorina the following: that she is required to type this session, she may not receive help from the man through whom I speak. She may not ask him to type one word, paragraph, sentence, syllable, or letter. Now since the next meeting will not be for a week or so we shall be magnanimous, write that down please. We shall give her till June 1st to type this session and you may then tell her after she makes a face and utters a few expletives, she’s lucky I didn’t make it the twenty third of May. Do you all have that down?
Frank… Yup.
Seth… And therefore, whenever each of you speak to her you are to relay that statement. I want it impressed upon her as strongly as possible.
Isabella… When everyone of us talks to her?
Seth… Yes, you only have to say it once for I believe that that will be enough impetus for her to not be as lazy as she can be.
Isabella… Is her birthday May 23rd?
Seth… No, her birthday, give us a moment, is on May 16th. That being stated, let us go on. Under our major subject of Change (Krypto let out a major barking howl.) I would like to give you all three ideas that most individuals deal with. These three things can actually destroy a soul’s incarnation. The first one is anger, the second one is pride, and the third one is unforgivingness. I’m going to start with the first one, anger.
Isabella… Did you say those three things can end one’s incarnation?
Seth… Destroy
Isabella… Doesn’t that mean end?
Frank… No, it means it’s ruined the life, the experience of a lifetime.
Jasmine… Right, right.
Seth… There is a common verbiage expression that is popular at this point of reference which states, I just lost it! Anger itself, as I have previously stated, is a strong emotion. It always has a sense and a purpose to it. You can be angry at a person, an event, a thing. While these are normal ideas, when anger takes over the sense of self becomes so magnified that the clarity and purpose of the self is abandoned on the justification that I am being harmed. Anger at times makes no sense. An example of this may be seen in ideas such as road rage, religious intolerance and the list of course could go on. Again, I repeat myself, a normal, and at times a very profitable emotion, feeling if you will. But far too often especially at this point of reference, anger at… overtakes and literally consumes the individual. It is at times as if the soul and individual are swallowed up and actually lost to themselves.
Change at that point of reference becomes impossible. You are set on a path that prevents you from challenging your own feelings, thoughts, and ideas on any particular subject. If one cannot challenge themselves, it is then obvious that you are incapable of creating and then formulating a correct path of action. As an aside here, one must note that a large majority of violent crimes are due to what I have just described.
Pride is that which you see in self that should give you a sense of accomplishment. When pride overtakes one and you know you are correct, but you cannot and then will not accept another’s criticism or point of view. It follows from there that since you are correct and so sure of yourself that others must be wrong! The pride that one invests in self should be helpful, however, when it prevents a soul from even listening to a contrary point of view that soul becomes dangerous to self as well as others. It follows then that anger moves in harmony with pride. One cannot have one without the other. Again, it follows that change is impossible when one is so self-sure that they must be correct. No room is left for even compromise in situations like this. Many of your situation comedies deal with pride and these issues. The old expression is quite true, “Pride goeth before the fall.” If you cannot see and cannot hear then I ask each individual the following: How can you create? And the answer truly is that you create disaster! You cannot succeed when you leave no room for even yourself to question that which is. It should be noted here that violence again is quite commonplace in individuals who place pride above everything else. A clear example of this is seen in male individuals who beat their wives. They must always be correct, they clearly state, “you made me do this.”
Isabella… That’s a pride thing?
Seth… They blame the other for their failings. Quite commonly they take over and attempt to control that which surrounds them. They can do something better than the other. Yet when called to task, they state, “you are the one who did not give me a chance. You are the one who held me back, it is your fault.” Individuals must learn that even when they are correct, they must be open enough to listen and understand the others around them.
The person who is unforgiving denies the basic tenant of spirituality, that is of course forgiveness and understanding. If someone has done something to you that is harmful or bothersome and you choose not to relent your emotions, then of course you are preventing change. How many times in each of you, your own experiences have brought you to the point where you have thought or possibly even said, I will never forgive that person for what they have done! And let us assume for a moment that you truly never forgive that person, where are you, where is your creativity? You are then mired down, stuck if you will with anger, hatred about someone or something. It is truly a cancer (In physical plane terms.) that you have. It will literally consume your day-to-day existence. Revenge here is a manifestation of not being able to forgive. You plan how to harm or victimize the other. Your anger knows no bounds. It is interesting to note that studies have been done with individuals who have suffered at the hands of another. One set of criminals were brought into face the relatives of the person that they killed and in a series of meetings the anger and hatred from the victims became tempered. The rage and loathing of the perpetrator lessened, and finally heartfelt apologies were given.
There was healing on both sides. Change there was made possible by allowing forgiveness. Understanding came to the forefront. It replaced anger. The pride that the perpetrators had dissipated, they became more human and they themselves were different. These three types of feelings or emotions, if left to themselves can and do destroy an incarnation. So, the question arises, what to do? First thing that is necessary to do is to call upon friends, describe that which hurts, explain your anger. Use the friend as a sounding board so that your creations can resonate within a neutral party. Does the friend agree or disagree with your point of view? If they agree then how can you moderate the anger, the hatred, the discomfort you are having? If they disagree it is necessary to understand why and I fall back upon an old statement that now comes into play, PERHAPS I AM WRONG. Perhaps I do not understand. These are the questions that you must learn to ask, first of self and then to a friend. Remember you are opening the wound and cleaning out the infection of anger. If you do not do this, then your pride is preventing you from acting. A surgeon will always lance an infected area, they cut away what no longer serves a useful purpose and in doing so your friend will cut away that which infects you.
One must always in these situations make time so that you can reflect upon events. When one acts rashly how often are you incorrect? Is it possible that you did not see correctly, that you did not hear? Is it not then true that you cannot create that which you do not fully understand? This means that if you only have partial information how correct can you be in that which you create? It is to put it simply, if you only hear one side of a conversation how accurate can you be to understand and comprehend the full conversation as if you’ve heard both sides? Do you understand? Since you cannot create adequately, you must pause and allow yourself the luxury of gathering information so that you may understand that which has gone on. Once you have obtained more information either by research or by contemplation and meditation on the event, you will then be in a better position to make judgments that will lead you to a more profitable course of action. The old statement here again is true, “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.” How often has each of you made a decision in haste that proves to be a disaster? This type of decision making, the snap judgment is often done because the individual is either angry or unforgiving of another person or event. They are so sure that they are correct that thought is unnecessary. If you do not think of something, how profitable can it be?
What profit is there in adapting a course of action that has no profitable end? A clear indication at this point of reference may be seen in the recent war in the Middle East. What is the ending going to be and was there thought on the matter before starting?
Lastly, one must be able to accept self! If you cannot and will not accept the idea that you as an individual are capable of errors, then of course change may never occur. Acceptance of self with all your faults is mandatory in all that you do. Why did you get angry? What set you off? How may you profit by continuing to do the same thing over and over again? Most individuals believe that they accept themselves, this is just the way I do things is a battle cry of the incompetent. If you are so sure of yourself then why do others disagree? Each individual must come to the realization that they are not alone and that they require assistance from others. One may look at the assistance of others as nourishment it is the “food” that you require to give sustenance to your existence. One must learn to accept the idea that of course you are what you create, however, the mistaken notion here is that you are all important. The true master knows that he is equal to his students. He only has a bit of knowledge that he endeavors to share with others. He accepts himself as a teacher that will help guide his students on a better path. He allows his students to roam free with their thoughts and their creations. Even when they make errors in judgments, he is there to pick them up when they fall. He accepts the idea that they must and should challenge him and his ideas. She knows that when her students succeeds, he is to be praised. She knows that even she can make an error and accepts this idea. She encourages change with pride knowing full well that someday each of her students will be a teacher. Anger, pride, unforgivingness are destroyers of all that you hope to do. You cannot succeed unless you challenge yourself, accept what you are, call upon your friends and give time for reflection. I believe at this point we shall take a break.
Seth… Let us continue. I have listened in, and I understand that most of your aching little fingers have not quite recuperated therefore we shall continue on with some of this next week and certainly our subject of change, therefore are there any questions?
Frank… I do have questions.
Seth… Go ahead, feel free (Said humorously, Frank laughing as Stephanie has to type this session.)
Isabella… Ask away!!!
Frank… I actually had already had a question about a couple that I work with because of last week’s session and the harsh rules but it seems to me that this session that all three of these things play for this couple.
Seth… Is it not true and you’ve been here long enough to note that every idea is a platform where other ideas build upon that which you have already learned?
Frank… Yes.
Seth… Now, if you take this thought as it is as a “therapist” you then come to the conclusion that in dealing with any patient or set of patients for that matter, they can only proceed along on a path that builds upon a foundation where you have previously worked and studied with them. You cannot start with tonight without the week before, which is not as good as starting two weeks before. That is why when you become mired down and over analyze things you tend to lose a sense of focus here and therefore if you regain your focus by allowing things to flow in a correct manner and this goes for all of you as well then of course you are in a far better position to understand and thereby help and guide others. Do you understand?
Frank… Yeah, that covers the question.
Isabella… I have a question.
Seth… Make it a nice long one.
Isabella… No, but (Said very drawn out and methodical to be funny so Stephanie could understand.) I will talk very slowly so she can type adequately (Frank laughing.). No, these three emotions, anger, pride and unforgiveness seem very prevalent throughout my divorce obviously and …
Seth… On who’s side?
Isabella… I guess on my side.
Seth… Close…
Isabella… What the hell does he have to be angry for?
Seth… Do you think his actions just came out of nowhere?
Isabella… No. Actually, yeah, I do. I do feel like his actions came out of nowhere.
Seth… His actions did not come out of nowhere. That is obviously a falsehood.
Isabella… Okay.
Seth… And so, if you were to look back and when I described a number of things in this session you will be aware that someone who blamed others for not letting them grow, not letting them do things, not, not, not, not. Is in reality reacting to themselves therefore they blame the other. Since they must be right you must be wrong. Go ahead.
Isabella… So, in the case, the anger piece I can let go, pride, obviously I can understand why this is not about me. The unforgiveness, how do you let that go? How do you forgive eventually when somebody has really hurt you and traumatized you?
Seth… First of all, what are you forgiving? You see, that is the question in and of itself.
Isabella… A lot of things.
Seth… What are you forgiving here? Are you forgiving what he did and how he did it or are you forgiving the individual for being a weak foolish person who in reality, yes did hurt you, but now there’s the but here, but he had little knowledge of himself, could not master himself, had no “pride” and I use that word there in quotes, in self. Therefore, was totally unable to create a profitable situation for himself. Do you understand now? You can forgive him for that.
Isabella… Right.
Seth… But you can’t allow yourself to be trampled on or victimized by forgiving him for everything because that makes no sense.
Isabella… Correct.
Seth… Forgiveness is in what the person is.
Isabella… Oh, okay That makes it much clearer.
Seth… You understand.
Isabella… Yeah, I can forgive him for being weak and idiotic and whatever else that I can forgive cause then in that circumstance I know it isn’t about me.
Seth… It’s as if somebody would go ahead and stab you or shoot you, well you’re not going to forgive him for the shooting or stabbing of you, you could forgive them for their actions and thoughts and feelings that led up to that.
Isabella… Okay.
Seth… You understand the difference now?
Isabella… Yes, I do.
Seth… Anything else there?
Isabella… No.
Frank… Sorry kiddo! (Referring to asking more questions.) I already have this question but as a follow-up to the idea of teaching. How is it that you decide when to put one concept with another like last week, the idea of being judgmental and on the other hand making someone feel special so they can make a difference? How does that come together for a teacher?
Seth… A teacher teaches by listening to their students. I teach you nothing until you are ready to absorb it. For me it is quite simple, I research this in a way of course you do not have the ability to do so but yet I listen carefully. I listen with ears that do not hear in a far greater extent than you do. When you are dealing with a friend, a neighbor, a patient, a relative, anyone, one must hear with eyes that do not see, their body language, their expressions, their facial characteristics, what they say, their intonation of their voice, their ideas that they present in what they consider a logical manner all give clues as to what concept you can bring to the forefront. It is not just a piece meal, “I’m going to stick this in now” situation. It is a gestalt, a blending together of that which you have previously presented and that which you hope that they can incorporate into themselves. One must always remember that is takes a great deal of effort upon the other to think about, to review, to contemplate and to remold if you will that which you are presenting into a form that that person can adequately use. Therefore, there is no….
Frank… the other being the teacher.
Seth… No, the students.
Frank… The other being the students taking it in?
Seth… Taking it in. Therefore, there is no magical formula here that you should even attempt to look at in terms of how one then proceeds and in what concept one places as the next important event. You may determine that after a while a patient was having difficulty in their life may need the idea of looking at a happy or prosperous past event to give them the feeling of joy and happiness just as well as somewhere along the line you are going to say, “you know that you are being so judgmental towards self that you cannot see”. Which one comes first? The answer is the student will let you know. You cannot have a formula for every individual for that would be foolhardy. Is there anything else?
Frank… In terms of last week’s session and the idea of being judgmental it reminded me of the concept of superego and superego as its own agency which is a belief commonly held. Is, I also thought about the concept of natural guilt, is that true that the superego is its own thing?
Seth… Let me stop. You have a conscious mind. It is common here to try to divide that conscious mind into various categories, the unconscious mind, the ego, etc. etc. etc. The ego is just a manifestation of looking at the outside world, yet if your conscious mind is closed off to your inner self then the ego itself can only focus in one direction. It is “made to focus on the outside world” but it still must take information that you give it from your inner self. When individuals and your “therapists and psychologists” give themselves the luxury of saying your unconscious mind, there is no unconsciousness! There is no grander or lesser! You’re all breaking down the parts of the whole so that you may describe that which you believe to be true. Do you understand?
Frank… Hmm.
Seth… Therefore, one must then reopen the channels between the conscious mind inwardly and the conscious mind outwardly. There must be a balance for if you tell yourself that you cannot deal with the internal structures because they are not real, then of course you place into semi-oblivion the idea of thoughts and feelings that you are stacking over here which all of a sudden will come up at later events but yet unlooked at, undiscovered, un-thought about in the present. Do you understand?
Frank… Yes.
Seth… I believe that should help you…
Frank… The answer is no. (Meaning the question of the Super Ego being somehow separate.)
Seth… It’s not a question of no, it’s more of a question of how you describe something.
Frank… Like a function of something.
Seth… Correct.
Frank… Okay. I’m finally, um.. can you give me some assistance with my son Zachary who seems to be involved, who’s always in the wrong place at the wrong time and is there something I can do?
Seth… Yes, he does not appreciate that which he does or participates in or views, he is very narrow minded in this instance. He only looks to the immediate gratification of, not the consequences of. When he blends those two, he becomes an adult. You understand?
Frank… Yes.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
George… I would appreciate any sort of help or input. I am once again struggling with the idea of getting an opportunity to do something and questioning whether or not I really have the commitment to do it.
Seth… The commitment to do something is a dream. A dream is that which you attempt to make reality. When one closes themselves off to their dreams, one robs themselves in a futuristic sense of creating that which you truly desire. I would strongly suggest, have you ever read the book, “The Alchemist”?
George… Yes.
Seth… If you read it and understood it, you would not ask the question. Re-read it. Do you understand?
George… Yes.
Seth… Are there any other questions? Then let me leave you with this. Anger, pride, unforgivingness only magnify your wants. They diminish you. They curb your appetite for true progress. They fill you up with hatred; first toward self, then others. The hatred itself prevents change. You cannot succeed when you don’t enjoy yourself. Take time out. Reflect upon the problem. Ask a friend. Challenge yourself so that you as an individual can prosper and when you do your needs will be fulfilled. Kaetorina, I hope you enjoyed typing this session. A pleasant evening to all.
Frank… Good-night.
(No end of session time noted.)
