Seth 554 The Last Session on Change

Seth Sessions on the major topic of Change

Seth 554

The Last Session on Change

Tuesday November 11, 2014

9:10 PM

Seth…  Good evening, it is always a pleasure to have you here with me.  A small bit of housekeeping before we go on.  Deborah, do you have four questions previously written down? (This session is being placed as per Seth’s instructions with the material on Change.  Dictated in 2014 it has been six years since the last session on Change.  Seth had been talking about Growth and Development specifically on Soul Ages at the time of this session.  One student had a particularly hard time with asking questions and Seth would not continue with that material until she formulated at least four questions.  It is now six years later in December of 2020 as I begin to edit it, and it may be another six years or more before it sees the light of day as published material.  That would be 2026!  Talk about time being simultaneous! F.N.  Actually, published May of 25 on The New Seth.com on WordPress  https://thenewsethsessions.com/ )

Seth…  Deborah, what I would strongly recommend is that you have a number of individuals here that you can consult with over the next few days to help you come up with questions that we will deal with in our next session.   After those questions are dealt with, we shall move along.  One of the things I am trying to teach you that will stand you in good stead for your profession and for your incarnation is how to formulate and ask proper questions.  You have a great tendency to believe that if you listen you will understand completely.  You are also afraid to ask questions out of fear of looking foolish.  You cannot succeed without making an error somewhere.  The more resistant you are to the idea of I cannot make an error the more errors you will make.  Use the resources of the others around this table to help you look at questions that will be appropriate for this level of baby souls.  The information that I give will pale in comparison to the necessity for you to ask a question.

Deborah…  Thank you.

Seth…  Since we need Deborah’s questions to complete this concept, we will then have a question-and-answer session on anything except baby souls.  Therefore, do we have a question?

Frank…  I am concerned about aging and my health and having to possibly take a pill for cholesterol and I would like some assistance with the idea of a program or something so that I can take care of myself as I get older.

Seth…  You have two choices.  One, don’t get older! (Group laughter and banter.)  The second choice and the answer that was given to you earlier by the man through whom I speak was correct.  He told you that you should see a nutritionist, which to be truthful was my idea. (Stephanie laughed.)  The problem that you are truly having is a fear of getting old.  You have been for numerous years classified as a weekend warrior.  With this thought in mind your fear of aging hurts you due to the fact that you refuse to accept the concept that you are not twenty-five.  Are there any other questions?

Spencer…  I have a question.  As we refer to time you always refer to it as a point of reference.  Is it better to think of time as a place or a point in space? 

Seth…  First let me explain a concept that our friend Frank has had and is still having.

Frank…  Time troubles.

Stephanie…  Yeah.

Seth…  There is no such thing or concept that is valid that explains time.  You reside, so do I for that matter, in what one must call the ever expanding now.  Everything that has happened, that is happening and that will happen always is happening concurrently.  When one looks at time on the physical plane you can imagine a ruler, one, two, and three, four out to infinity.  That is not factual.  If one were to look at your own existence from the time you were created from The All That Is to this specific point of reference it would be a spindle vertically.  When you would then choose to look at anything you would pull a leaf from that spindle at a specific point of reference.  By doing so you then study or examine that concept at that specific point of reference.  You would then place the leaf back into where you took it from and move to a different point of reference. 

With that thought in mind you exist now in the twenty first century with the knowledge of the twenty first century.  If you were studying a point of reference in the fourteenth century the knowledge you have at this point of reference would be useless to you in the fourteenth century.  Therefore, you would have to look at a point of reference that gave you knowledge of the fourteenth century.  When one would then end any incarnation, you move to a higher plane where linear time does not exist.  Knowledge exists and your ability to grow is determined by your own choosing.  Each point of reference within a higher realm is never measured by time, it is calculated by knowledge.  We again fall back on to the idea of The Ever Expanding Now.  The more knowledge you gain and have the now expands not only for you but for all or everyone.  I would strongly recommend that you read and re-read this paragraph a few times to get a better understanding that the idea of a point of reference denotes a minute point of studying something.

Are there any other questions?

Spencer…  When my consciousness within this life expands or grows for lack of a better term…

Seth…  One can only hope.

Spencer… does the consciousness of all of my lives expand as well?

Seth…  Knowledge and experience are the only reasons that you exist on the physical plane.  You could not exist at a mature soul level until you experienced a young soul level.  Therefore, the knowledge you gained from previous soul ages allows growth and development on higher levels that you use to formulate incarnations on whatever step you are at any particular point of reference.  Do you understand?

Spencer…  Yes, I just don’t understand the word previous since time is not linear.

Seth…  Again, you are thinking in a linear fashion.  Think of spindle, old soul, mature soul, young soul, baby soul, infant soul, created.  (Seth motioned with Jerry’s hands to indicate places on the spindle.)  There is no time, it’s just where you study.  Let me give you another example, I’ll confuse you further.  I want you to think of a pencil standing upright on a mirror.  Four walls surrounding the pencil are also mirrored, the ceiling is also mirrored.  Every reflection of that pencil is infinite.  One can then pick out any specific reflection at any angle that you would choose and determine what knowledge that reflection has.  Your knowledge is always translated into growth and development yet the pencil itself is the true soul and not the reflection.  The knowledge that you receive is always translated and given back to the soul.  I strongly recommend you read this again and again.

Spencer…  The reflection is also only from that point of reference.  So, another point of reference is another reflection even though you are looking at the same soul you only seeing a reflection…

Seth…  What angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle.

Spencer… a fraction of it.

Seth…  Right.

Spencer…  Yeah.

Seth…  You don’t have to write that. 

Stephanie…  No.

Frank…  What angle, what angle, what angle…  (Group laughter.)

Seth…  I believe at this point we shall take a break.  (9:57 P.M.)

Seth…  Let us continue.  I have a question.  Deborah, do you know what you are going to do for next week? (Group laughter.)

Deborah…  Yes, I will pull my hair out.

Seth…  It would be nice to see a bald person here.  (Debbie laughs. There was then conversation and kidding back and forth around Deborah’s challenge in formulation and asking questions.)

Seth…  There are others that you can call and ask, just remember that.

Deborah…  Okay.

Stephanie…  One question I have is, is there any relationship to the approaching young soul population and the changes in weather? (Seth has stated to us that we have recently as world population shifted from Baby Soul Age to Young Soul Age.) And can you comment on what seems to be a tremendous increase in terrorism of all kinds and how are we supposed to think about and deal with all that is around us and clearly getting…  Are you sleeping on my question?

Seth…  Yes.

Stephanie…  Why?  It’s serious.

Seth…  Read it again, I’ll contemplate it this time.

Stephanie…  (Laughing.)  Wow he’s in a mood.  (Stephanie was directed to ask the question again.) 

One question I have is, is there any relationship to the approaching young soul population and the changes in weather?

Seth…  No!

Stephanie…  Really?

Seth…  No.

Stephanie…  Oh, okay and can you comment on what seems to be a tremendous increase in terrorism of all kinds and how are we supposed to think about and deal with all that is around us and clearly getting worse and worse.

Seth…  Nothing to do with the weather, no.  Second, as the population moves from baby soul to young soul there will be a natural increase in violence.  This increase in violence will tend to increase over the next millennium or so.  Remember the idea of young souls is to explore the physical plane, and all it truly has to offer.  With that thought in mind there will obviously be numerous kind and gentle people, as an example, Mother Theresa.  The opposite side of that will of course be individuals like Hitler. 

Are there any other questions?

Frank…  Haven’t you said in the past that human emotion affects the weather?

Seth…  But not in this instance.

Frank…  How can our violent emotions not affect the weather?

Seth…  Weather is a mass consciousness effect and therefore if you are taking something out of the physical plane you want the weather to be as good as possible so the more you have the more you can get.  You don’t want an earthquake or a hurricane, they would prefer good weather.

Stephanie…  Ha, that’s like when there is low crime when the weather is bad.

Seth…  Correct.

Stephanie…  Oh, hmm, interesting. 

Frank…  Could you explain in Seth terms what this idea of creating in the vortex means?

Seth…  Define your reference point, vortex.

Frank…  From the teacher Abraham having to do with meditation, having to be in a good place (mentally and emotionally.)

Seth…  Simply put, the more comfortable one is, the more content you are the better you are able to create.  Remember you are what you create.  If you are under stress, your creations become weaker. If you are constantly worried about things your abilities lessen due to the fact that you can’t put in enough energy into that which you require.

Deborah…  Oh.

Seth…  Yes, you are there.

Deborah…  How do I get out of that? (Laughs.)

Now to our friend Frank since you asked me to answer as Seth, I have a little question, who would I answer to if I wasn’t Seth?  (Group laughter.)

Deborah…  How would I get out of the negative state?

Seth…  My first question to you is why do you enjoy it?  My second question to you is if one assumes one would like to believe you don’t enjoy it then you must be staying there for reasons that you don’t even know yourself.  If I was a therapist, I would ask you why are you punishing yourself and your answer is because I am afraid.  The concept here is to remove yourself from a place of dis-ease is to adapt the idea that I can.  I can be better.  I can meditate.  I can promote myself by doing things for myself without worrying about the consequences of my actions due to the idea that my actions will promote me into a positive state.  Do you understand?

Deborah…  Yes.  I wanted to ask you about closing the channels when we talk about individuals with schizophrenia and meditation, mindfulness meditation or something else?

Seth…  The best reference that I can give you is to speak to our friend Frank who did this with his previous employment.

Are there any other questions?

Frank…  I can’t formulate mine into reasonable questions.

Seth…  Want to make an unreasonable questions?

Frank…  I feel like I have made some steps in terms of the idea of understanding why I have difficulties with over-controlling and the troubles I have with meditation and just allowing.  I still would like a hand in taking it further.

Seth…  One of the great problems that you have is the concept here of techniques.  You become so caught up with the idea of a technique that you lose the concept of why the technique is there.  The object here with meditation, which of course leads to growth and development is the simplest idea of learning to relax.  You as an individual become so worried that you are not doing the technique correctly that you do not get the benefit of the technique at all.  You then immediately start looking for another technique.  A simple suggestion: enjoy what you are doing and forget about the technique. 

Are there any other questions? 

Spencer…  Is the illusion of time appearing to be sped up now because consciousness is growing at a faster rate?

Seth…  The answer is no.  Let me give you a few illustrations.  If you have ever ridden in a car and are going to someplace from your home, it always seems that it takes a long time to get there yet when you return it is very quick.  This again proves the idea that time does not exist.  When you were much younger as a child it was forever to go from one holiday to the next.  As you matured you had a very quick span to go from Halloween to Thanksgiving to Christmas and the time span was shortened.  It should be obvious that there are always the same number of days with the same amount of hours within each day.  Therefore, it’s only an illusion that time changes, which again is not quite factual since time itself is manipulated by the speed in which you travelled.  As you would approach the speed of light from a fixed reference point one ages very quickly yet if you were in the moving ship time would be very, very slow.  A simple example, if you were to travel from here to the nearest star and come back it would take you at the speed of light about 8 years, but you would not age 8 years.  Yet here at a fixed point you would age quite a bit more. 

Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  Is it true that if one fears aging and what their belief is about it then one is destined to create that no matter what?

Seth…  Let me ask you a question, do you believe that you are what you create?

Stephanie…  Yes, I do.

Seth…  Now if you will re-read your question then you will see that you will have already answered it by your statement.

Stephanie…  Most individuals fear aging for various reasons and is this why many or most have actual physical manifestations of these fears?

Seth…  The question itself is far too complex for me to give you a fully detailed answer.  A great deal of that has to do with mass consciousness beliefs.  Then if you mix in to that the individual belief systems you can gather that there is no simple way one can make an answer that fits the whole.  It would be a series of lectures on aging that would satisfy your question.

A great deal of tonight’s lecture truly has to do with change, and I would suggest to you Frank, that you edit out the unnecessary parts of Deborah and then put in that which you believe could be a good session towards the end of change (lectures).

Stephanie…  All of this leads back to the idea of belief systems and changing one’s belief systems correct?

Seth…  Correct

Stephanie…  So how would one considering the mass consciousness ideas behind this topic begin to even challenge these beliefs?

Seth…  One of the simplest ways to do this is a simple idea of learning.  One must learn to be happy and content with what they have and what they are and not always be content and happy with what they think they should have or want.  It is your needs that determine that which you possess, therefore make sure that you are prosperous with what you have so that your prosperity stems from within and not from without.  Do you understand?

Stephanie…  Yes, and if one is more able to do this then one may age differently than what the common belief systems show?

Seth…  The mass consciousness effects are far too pervasive.  That does not mean that you will not be content.  It means you should be content.  It also means that a wig would be very helpful for you. (Group Laughter.)

Stephanie…  Are you saying that when one’s aging body starts to let’s say collapse that if one is content internally this doesn’t have to matter in terms of feeling or being content?  Do you know what I mean?

Seth…  I know what you mean, you don’t know what you mean.  Let me give you an example here.  As you age your physical body will automatically deteriorate.

Frank…  That’s so cheery!

Stephanie…  It’s true.

Seth…  That which you could do at forty you cannot do at ninety.  However, this does not mean that you will not be content or in simpler terms be happy.  It only means that you cannot do certain things that you previously did.  It is your ability to adapt or to change your perceptions that allow you to be content with that which you are.  Do you understand?

Stephanie…  So, the idea of surrendering to what is for the most part, as you say the acceptance will help with the feelings of being content.  It’s hard for the population to do this given the stigma of aging. 

Seth…  The stigma of aging is more noticeable in Western civilizations than in Eastern ones.  The elders were always revered and cherished.  In Western societies the elderly, due to their inability to be strong and forceful in terms of physical prowess, have been demoted in stature.  Do you understand?

Stephanie… Yes. 

Let me leave you with this: Change is always necessary, it promotes you.  It gives you the ability to gain knowledge and experience.  I have previously said that when individuals, societies do not have the ability to change, they fail.  They fail because their wants multiply, and their needs are lessened.  By their needs being lessened I mean that they cannot be totally fulfilled and unhappiness increases.  Simply put, there is a lack of prosperity.  A very pleasant evening to all.

(Session ended at10:54 P.M.) 

Seth 361 Questions On The Six Points

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Seth 361

Questions on the Six Points

February 26, 2008

8:35 PM

Seth…  Good evening, a pleasure to have all of you here again.  At best we will deal with the idea of a very large and hopefully not overwhelmingly complicated housekeeping session.  Before we get into that we shall delve into a little bit more complicated housekeeping work.  To our friend Frank thank you for your timely giving of the typed material, it is much appreciated.

Now that being said we will go into a little more of housekeeping work.  George, I believe that some of the things that you should be involved with here are in terms of a meditation on your part.  In terms of starting out on a day-to-day basis.  And what I would suggest that you do is to empty your mind of any not tranquil thoughts and just basically allow yourself to float freely.

George…  Anything in my mind that is not tranquil thoughts?  Only allow those… (thoughts that may be pleasant?)

Seth…  No, I want you to empty your mind of all thoughts and float freely.  If you find yourself focusing on anything, whether it be pleasant or unpleasant it matters not.  So, I’d like you to attempt on a routine basis to do this exercise because I believe that you must first learn to get in touch with your inner self, the individual who you are truly responsible to is of course you.  The only way that you are going to find yourself is to allow your inner self to come forth.  Do you understand so far?

George…  I hear the words, but I can’t say I understand them.

Seth…  Okay. What do you not understand about this?

George…  I’ve tried mediation before.

Seth…  No. You are trying to focus on something.  I don’t want you to focus on anything.  In other words, you are to sit quietly, listen to your breathing, listen to the sounds that are around you, and whatever tends to come forward meaning from within you, not from without, take notice thereof.  And this is the inner core of your personality that you have lost somewhere along the way.  So that is part of your homework that you must indeed endeavor to do.  Do you understand a little better now?

George…  Yes

Seth…  I am not looking for you to concentrate on anything. I do not want you to say a mantra.  I do not want you to do anything but to learn to just be yourself.  And the way you be yourself is to finally get in touch with you.  You do this by literally you’ll excuse the expression, doing nothing.  So that is the first order of business there.  Once you have mastered this, you are to do this a minimum of four times a day and you may take anywhere from two to four minutes each time.  We are not dealing with hours at a time here although you can certainly eventually start expanding your time. (Of course, you the reader can try this getting in touch with your inner self exercise. F.N.) 

Jasmine…  What happens Seth, because I have tried many times when the thoughts come that are not productive?

Seth…  Push them away.  No thought is unproductive.  So that is the first order of business that you must… 

Jasmine…  But the unpleasant thoughts, the ones you might be obsessing about…

Seth…  No thought is unproductive.  You allow yourself to not focus upon that thought.

Jasmine…  You acknowledge it?

Seth…  It is not even a question of acknowledging anything.  The more you acknowledge it, the more things will come.  In other words, let us assume for example that you are sitting quietly and peacefully and dealing with what is.  You are going to and all of a sudden, a thought or a feeling about Isabella comes in that is unpleasant.  You take notice thereof and just move it away.  You don’t concentrate on it, you don’t acknowledge it, you just move it away.  It’s there, goodbye.  That’s basically what you have to do.  And this is the start, and I would not like even the idea of the understanding of the word of meditation here at all.  For this is not meditation.  This is an opening of yourself up to the inner you.  So please leave the word meditation out of the idea of what you are doing, but for the purposes of explanation we will use the idea of the word meditation.  Do you understand?  That’s the first thing. 

The second bit of housekeeping Jasmine, really concerns you in terms of your own destructive tendencies to promote weakness within self.  You understand what I mean when I say the word wanting.  Do you not?

Jasmine…  Yes

Seth…  In other words, wanting leaves you with nothing.  Is that correct?

Jasmine…  Yes.

Seth…  So, the question then arises, what occurs when you routinely tell yourself you cannot?

Jasmine…  So, you can’t.

Seth…  Correct. So, you rob yourself of an ability to do something.  In other words, if you tell yourself, you are not strong enough to lift a carton, then you are telling yourself you are not strong enough not only to lift the carton, but to do various other things.  And what you then bring to yourself is an inability, a lack if you will, of an ability to accomplish any sort of a physical task.  It then carries over into the idea that you have an inability to do mental work as well. Do you understand how one fits with the other?  The idea here is that your thoughts play on your feeling which give rise to emotional responses to that which you are.  Do you understand this so far?

Jasmine…  Your thoughts play on your emotions which give rise to feelings. 

Seth…  To feeling to that which you believe.  So, if you routinely say, I cannot lift something you are telling yourself that you are weak.

Jasmine…  That I understand.  I am not sure if I understand the leap from the weak physically to the weak emotionally. 

Seth…  Please explain the difference between the weak physically and the weak emotionally.

Jasmine…  Well, we only have a certain amount of physical strength required to…

Seth…  Without trying, you do not know what you have.  I am not saying that you should go ahead and try to lift an automobile.  There are few people here who could do that.  Yet if you then all went out and try to move or lift a car or somebody, I guarantee that all of you, the seven of you could accomplish that if you would then apply yourselves.  Weak physically means weak emotionally.  One goes with the other.  When you tell yourself you cannot, when you become resistant to, you again become a victim first of all of self and then of everyone else. So, you must learn to practice the idea of strength.  Do you understand?

Jasmine…  I do not know necessarily where this is coming from but okay.

Seth…  It is not a question of coming from anywhere.  We are dealing here with the idea of individuals who have been given a task and within that task they go ahead and either do not understand what they are doing, do not fulfill their promises, do not understand what they have set before themselves.  In other words, let us take a look for example at Kaetorina.  She was having difficulties.  Well, she was assigned a book to read.  And if she had bothered to take the idea and time to read and understand, instead of reading to get through it…

Stephanie…  Painful!  (Group laughter.)

Seth…  Then of course she promotes self.  When of course she decides to read to get through it, she loses that which she should have gained.  Therefore, she is starting at page one again.

Stephanie…  (Moans, laughs.) I was almost on 200.  Shoot myself!!

Seth…  And she will be required to go back to the beginning again and to deal with every page as if it were new.  Just as an aside, please tell the man through whom I speak that he starts on page one too since he has not fulfilled his work and dedication therein, so he starts again. 

Isabella…  Can I ask a question about this…about this conversation?  (Laughter from the peanut gallery because Isabella may be trying to get around asking a question off topic.)

Seth…  Go ahead.

Isabella…  I’m just very curious about how you practice strength.  Because I really like the expression weak physically means weak emotionally, you have to practice strength, but how do you do that?

Seth…  By doing it.

Isabella…   Just being strong in situations.           

Seth…  In all situations.  Once you tell yourself you cannot, you cannot.  That means you’re wanting, you’re lacking.  There is a void within yourself.  It is a definition that one must use to help define themselves.  For example, if you define yourself, as an example, as George does, by his job, or he believes that he does, what does that mean about everything else?  Everything else has fallen by the wayside. So, the idea here is that you never define yourself by a specific idea.  You define yourself from an internal source, and that is more connectable to the real you.  And you practice being strong, by being strong.  The idea of a person who says I can’t, I won’t, do it for me, it’s too much for me, is practicing weakness and victimization of self.  The individual who says please do this with me, even though I know it’s heavy for me, but I will do this with you, is practicing strength.   They may not have the physical ability to do something, but they have the mental strength to get assistance when they need it. 

Isabella…  So, for example when I went snowboarding alone on the mountain… (Seth glared.) …It’s related to this.

Seth…  I warned you.

Isabella…  How is that not related?

Seth… It is not related. I answered a specific question. Snowboarding is outside your realm.  Start typing.    

Let us get back to the other idea here of my six points that we delve into before.  (Jasmine sighed) Do you have a problem, Jasmine?

Jasmine…  No.

Seth…  The sigh sounded like you had a problem.  (There was kidding around and laughter with group and Jasmine about having to do work to be strong.)  What would you like to say?

Jasmine…  I don’t know.

Stephanie…  I have a question related to her. I don’t know whether you relate to this but in terms of Jasmine, she has had quite a medical history. I think there was some trauma and scarring for her emotionally.  Does that factor into her perception of her ability?

Seth…  Of course, it does.  But the real issue is not where even no matter how ill she was recently, the weakness does not stem from there.  The weakness stems from her upbringing where if something is withdrawn if you don’t do something, you become weaker.  You have a void; you have a lack within self.  Therefore, to regain strength you then start depending upon others to do for you.  Yes, it is far too easy to use illness as an excuse for lack of strength.  But in this instance, it does not stem from there. 

Stephanie…  So, it is an emotional basis?

Seth…  It is an emotional basis which is not based upon fact.  Going back to our six points, a sigh by Jasmine, if you don’t know them you may pass around the sheet to review them and what they are.  Each of you has missed, if you will, many opportunities when you look at those six points.  And what we must start to do is to look at them and delve into, if you will, that which you believe you have missed, things that you have overlooked, in terms of how you are functioning at this particular point of reference.  We may all have an opportunity to look at those points, pick one, two, or all six if you will, and discuss that which you have missed and how you tend to choose to rectify, so that you’re better able to make change.    

Betty…  Can someone read me the points?

Seth…  You may read her the six points.

Stephanie…  (Reads all six and there is conversation back and forth.  Here are the six points.  The reader should consider reviewing these six ideas that can help you facilitate change and perhaps write down what you may have missed and what to do to rectify to effect change in your life. F.N.)

One must decide which bridge in life is necessary to cross and which bridge is necessary to burn.

Two people who love each other do not look at each other but always learn to look together.

The person who takes your hand and then touches your heart is a true friend.

We rarely think of what we have but only what we miss.

Great events in a lifetime are usually the most quiet.

Differences in people make you and the family stronger.

Seth…  Therefore, let us start with anyone who has an idea or feeling about any one of the points, or two it matters not, and we shall look into and delve into these ideas. 

Frank…  In terms of self, correct?

Seth…  Well, it would certainly be that unless you feel that I have been making an error.  You may certainly…

Frank…  Now as it pertains to self I mean.

Seth…  Of course.

Frank…  I’ll start with the concept of appreciating what you have.  I feel that, particularly lately, I mean while I’m noticing, I’m here at the table, I have good friends, I have family, financially things are good.  I have, I’m very blessed.  Yet, particularly in the last couple of days and maybe weeks, my feelings about self are negative, not good.  I don’t feel… I intellectually understand, even a little bit more than intellectually understand that I am blessed but yet somewhere I feel not blessed at all.  I feel unworthy. 

Seth…  I believe greatly in the idea that when somebody looks at themselves and tries to establish a routine of changing themselves, they change themselves of course by dealing with core beliefs.  And one of the ideas that I have given to George is to attempt to look at the inner portion of self and you get in touch with that by looking at belief systems.  Belief systems have been taught to you by your parents, by friends, relatives.  And the core belief on many issues is hidden.  It is hidden because it becomes camouflaged with day to day-to-day events.  And these types of events often go unnoticed, unappreciated if you will.  And so, when you don’t appreciate that which you are, you will find that you concentrate on what there is not.  I am not wealthy, I don’t have enough money, I have too many bills.  A great deal of this lack stems because you do not believe enough in self.  If you know that your stack of bills is huge, one cannot wish them away, but one can learn to find ways so you can eliminate and decrease that which you owe by promoting self.   Whether it be all of a sudden getting another job, whether it be cutting down on expenses that you do not currently see, whether it be just appreciating that my debt is not as overwhelming as I believe that it was.  All these factors go into the idea that when we make changes, we do not have to look at what we do not have, but we must concentrate on what we are and what we perceive that we are.  Do you understand?

Frank…  Intellectually.

Seth…  I do not ask you to know this as fact yet, but these are things that you have missed over many years and sometimes in instances that go around this table over lifetimes.  So therefore, one cannot expect change to be instantaneous. That is an erroneous belief because you do not have the skill to make the change that is instantaneous for such a magnitude of difficulty. There are individuals who do.  You do not. 

It was specific for you.

Frank…  I don’t have problems with bills. 

Seth…  It is not a question of problems with bills, when you do not like yourself…

Frank…  That’s more specific to me. (Frank laughs.)

Seth…  Those are your bills.  Do you understand now?

Frank…  Yeah. I understand. 

Seth…  Who would like to be next?

Stephanie…  Are you talking about where in our life we have gone…

Seth…  In these six points and changes where you have missed opportunities.

Stephanie…  Okay.  So, the first one would be you know with my father for example.  That I didn’t burn this bridge fifteen years ago.  That I was wanting for something else, and you know kind of let it burn. 

Seth…  No. That is not a factual statement.  When you are dealing with individuals, the question arises, when you cross a bridge, when you walk over and take a new sense of direction, does that mean that you leave out and never deal with that individual again?  Well, there are many times when you can do that.  But there are just as many times when you cannot do that.  But the point of crossing a bridge in terms that you can understand is not becoming affected by their actions.

Stephanie…  You are talking about my actions.

Seth…  No. Their actions. 

Stephanie…  What about their actions?

Seth…  If you allow someone else’s actions to affect you…

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth… you are then mired down by their difficulties.  You have given over yourself to them in terms of their difficulties.  Do you understand this so far?

Stephanie…   Yeah, and I made it mine.

Seth…  And you made it your difficulty.  So many years ago, if you had crossed over to the idea of I am not going to become victimized by my father, I am going to understand what he is, I am going to appreciate what has gone on, but I do not have to participate in his difficulties.  That is the change, that is the burning the bridge behind you.  It is not necessarily not dealing with the individual because A) it might not be practical, it may be detrimental, but the difficulty here is the idea that for you, you want to end your suffering. 

Stephanie…  Right. So, I was talking about burning the bridge of wanting him to be different.  I would have approached it differently like you said, I would have said this isn’t acceptable to me, either do this or that, and if he didn’t, I would leave it go. 

Seth…  That’s correct.

Stephanie…  Which I did not do. 

Seth…  Which you didn’t do and the opportunity to promote self was lost. 

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth…  It is the same idea when somebody is constantly saying, this is good enough for you but not good enough for me.  Those presents are good enough for you, but not for my children.  Do you understand?

Stephanie…  Em hmm.

Seth…  And that is the degree of difficulty you are dealing with here.  It is the idea of where do I cut off something that no longer serves me. 

Stephanie…  So, had I done this years ago…?

Seth…  You would never be in the position you are now.

Stephanie…  Right so you mean it’s because I had to up the ante for me to get the lesson?

Seth…  Correct.  The lesson, all lessons keep magnifying themselves.  The universe constantly provides you with opportunities for advancement.  Now the question here is, what do I mean by the term advancement?  Well, it has many difficulties.  Languages are a poor source of information.  Advancement here means the ability to accept the change easily.  It is experience that you get when dealing with difficult situations.  All situations that present “problems” must be viewed as a challenge and an opportunity.  The second you become a victim of that idea you cannot win. 

Stephanie…  So how would it have played out?  I would have just left it; I wouldn’t have needed…

Seth…  You wouldn’t have needed the…

Stephanie… business thing.

Seth…  Correct.  It wasn’t even the business thing. You would not have needed the idea that he would have paid you any attention.  You don’t want to come, don’t come.  You don’t want to see my children, it’s your loss.  You don’t want to be a part of my life; well, you lost a daughter.  How do you feel about that?

Stephanie…  So, the position I am in right now and how I feel about it, and how I am going to approach this, it would have been the same, but fifteen years ago. 

Seth…  No, you would not have had the anger that you have now.  You would not have the resentment of that you have now. 

Stephanie…  Oh, because I let it all occur. 

Seth…  You let it go on.

Stephanie…  Right, so I would have not be dealing with it at all like that.

Seth…  Correct

Stephanie…  But would the relationship have been the same?

Seth…  Well, I won’t answer that question. 

Stephanie…  Why not?

Seth…  Move along.  (Group laughter.)

Stephanie…  So, you can say you know that I lost out in that way then.  That I needed to bring it in a black and white terms. 

Seth…  It is not even the question of black and white.  It is a question of you learning from experience.  Did you ever notice that your chance encounters with one individual or many individuals tend to be repetitious upon things that you are having difficulty with? 

Stephanie…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Your seasonal players tend to fall into certain categories.  And they do this because you are involved in a specific line of study. So, until you finish with that line of study, what do you expect? 

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth…  Things repeat themselves because all questions have not been asked and answered fully.  Do you understand so far?

Stephanie…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Do you have any other questions?

George…  If we are sticking to the theme of which of these we have missed out on the most, I think the fourth point of rarely thinking about what we have and only what we miss has been a big recurring theme in my life and not being able to understand where I am at.  And constantly dwelling on paths, choices and past decisions of not to take certain paths and what effect those do or do not have on myself now.  I think that is one of the hardest…

Seth…  Well, let us ask a simple question.  How do you define yourself?

George…  I define myself based on…

Seth…  It is a simple question.  If you were asked to please describe and how do you describe George?  How do you define you?  Let’s make the question simpler.  Do you like you?

George…  Sometimes.

Seth…  Poor choice.  So therefore, that is where you start with the idea of your concentrating on what you miss.  What you miss is the most important thing you can ever possibly imagine.  Do you have any idea of what you are missing? 

George…  Myself.

Seth…  Yes, you are missing you.  Because you can’t define you.  And since you cannot define self, either because of the way you were brought up, or your belief systems, or both, which are factual.  Then if you can’t define you, what do you expect of you?  And the answer is misery.  Becoming uncertain, becoming fearful, becoming afraid of if I don’t get that, I won’t have that.  And therefore, you cannot define yourself in any way but something that is negative because you don’t know who you are.  Which falls back upon my original housekeeping chore for you, find out who you are.  And that is why I gave you the exercise to do.  Does that make more sense to you now?

George…  Yes.  It is a very daunting prospect.  (Laughter.)

Seth…  It is not a question of daunting.  It is a question of doing.  No one may tell you what to do or not to do.  No one should say this is right, this is wrong.  The only thing that you must understand is that your greatest point of power is now.  And that is what you must start with, and that is how you find yourself.  Does that help?

George…  A little bit.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  I just want to ask about, do differences in people make you and the family stronger?  Are you talking about differences in terms of, if we are to use the whole Farther thing, differences, he’s this way, I’m that way? 

Seth…  Possibly, certainly. 

Stephanie…  So, making me stronger because I had to go through this and looking at the differences of what I would expect, what he values and all that.

Seth…  Would you do the same to your children from the experience you had

Stephanie…  No.

Seth…  Then I believe that difference in people make you and your family stronger. 

Stephanie…  Okay, so it’s the learning from. 

Seth…  It is the experience gained by.  Remember, you may learn something but not apply it.  (Seth taps the table indicating the need to take notes.)  You may learn something but not apply it. Jasmine.  (Taps again.) 

Stephanie…  So, when you are talking about differences you are not necessarily saying…

Seth…  Good or bad.  I am not talking…depending on how you define them. 

Stephanie…  It’s what you do with them, what you do with the differences. 

Seth…  Of course.  In any situation where there is more than one individual it is far too easy to point the finger at the other person and say that is the problem that we are having is due to you.  The question arises.  Is there a possibility that you could be wrong?  Number two, if you tell everybody that you have blonde hair and everybody looks around the table and says to you, no I am sorry you have red hair, is there a possibility that you are not seeing self for what it is?  So therefore, you must not only look towards self, but you must understand what others are saying to you on a specific point of study.  Does it repeat itself?  Does the universe give you the same information over and over and over again?  Because if it does, then ask yourself the question, could I be wrong?  And if I am wrong, why am I blaming someone else when I should be studying myself.  That is the differences that you should look for to make you and the family stronger.  So, the question arises.  Do you have blonde hair? 

Stephanie…  No.

Seth…  I believe that the illustration there is apt.  I believe at this point we shall take a short break. 

Seth…  Let us continue.  Anyone else have a question or something that they would like to go over? 

Isabella…  Am I allowed or not?

Seth…  Depends on if it is on topic.

Isabella…  Um, in relationship to we rarely think of what we have, but only think of what we miss.  I think that I do that all the time. 

Seth…  You do that because again a great deal of what you believe to be true is a lack. Something that you do not perceive as having something.  In other words, you tend to want someone to care for you. You tend to want someone to provide for you, meaning there is a lack

within you. So, you’re concentrating routinely on that which you do not have instead of what you have.  And this has been taught to you and has been reinforced by you.

Isabella…  From growing up?

Seth…  And therefore, when you emulate the idea of I do not, instead of I do, you tend to miss.  So, what you then do is you look at what you are missing instead of saying let’s reexamine myself.  Well, if one were to ask you to define yourself, what is your one good attribute?

Isabella…  What is one…

Seth…  One good attribute of you?

Isabella…  Umm, a good attribute, I think I am very intelligent. 

Seth…  Besides being very intelligent. Something more important. What are you? A what?

Isabella…  A teacher, a sumari. 

Seth…  You are a sumafi (This is a category or very large family of souls who have certain attributes.  In this case the sumafi are often teachers.)  And that is the one attribute that you have absolutely no problem dealing with. 

Isabella…  No. (Said in agreement.)

Seth…  So therefore, if you are a sumafi, and you are, a teacher, then therefore you do not question the fact that you can teach.  And therefore, do you ever look at the idea that I am excellent at what I do?  The answer is that you don’t do that properly.  Why do I state that? Because in your retelling of the story, I had 29 children out of 62, I believe if the answer is correct, that got a four on an exam, you are waiting for someone to go and pat you on the back and say you did a wonderful job.  And if truth be told, you feel an emptiness when people do not.  That is how you are concentrating on what you are missing instead of what you are having.  Does that make it clear? 

Isabella…  Yes

Seth…   Are there any other questions?

Betty…  Yeah, I’m still stuck with the bridge.  In terms of crossing the bridge, and not becoming affected by other’s actions, I guess my question is when you are no longer affected by other’s actions, then why would you necessarily stay with the relationship?

Seth…   You stay with any relationship, as you routinely do, because of fear.  And in reality, therein you have not crossed the bridge.  In other words, if you are staying in a situation…

Betty…  That no longer serves, so I can let it go.

Seth…  It is not a question of just letting it go, it is a question of ending. 

Betty…  That’s what I mean.  Ending it. 

Seth…  No, you meant what you said.  I am sorry.  I am a better therapist than you are. 

Betty…  I am not a therapist. (Betty is a Nurse Practitioner.)

Seth…  You understand the principal very well.  And so therefore when you end something you do not have to go ahead and become affected by that something.  When you stay in there, when you allow things to accumulate, if you will, you have a great tendency here to allow individuals to victimize you. And this has been a characteristic of yours for many lifetimes. 

Betty…  Okay.

Seth…  So, if you allow people to take advantage of you, what is your experience?

Betty…  So that is the point where I get hung up.  I can work very hard; retrain the way I view my perspective on a situation.  When in reality there is a point in time where you stop that, and you just get out. 

Seth…  What does the word “no” mean to you? 

Betty…  Um, an end. 

Seth…  Then let me ask you a question.  Since it is obvious you do not know what the word no means, what do you believe you should do?

Betty…  Are you… I’m lost. Not following.

Seth…  In other words, if someone or something is not profitable for you and you have just stated I should get out, so that means an end of a situation and the answer is no, I do not want to participate in this anymore.  Do you understand that statement?

Betty…  Yes, I understand that. 

Seth…  Okay, so what does the word “no” really mean to you?

Betty….  That’s enough.

Seth…  No, it doesn’t.  What it really means to you is, I think about it, I’ll mull it over, I’ll give it a second chance, well, maybe I’m being too harsh.  I know things can be different.  Do you understand what I am saying?

Betty…  Yes. 

Seth…  Since you have no concept of the word no, you are getting what you asked for.

Betty…  Correct.

Seth…  It is a question of putting yourself in the center at your greatest point of power, which is now, and understanding that if this is not serving me, this ends.

Betty…  Yeah, because I get hung up in understanding things from the other perspective. 

Seth…    No, you do not… Who is the most important person that you know?

Betty…  That is where I am constantly stuck.

Seth…  I understand, who is the most important person that you know?

Betty…  Self

Seth…  You don’t mean that do you?

Betty…  No.  (Laughing.)

Seth…  I understand that. I wouldn’t have asked the question the way I did.  Well, isn’t it about time you explored the most important person that you know?

Betty…  Yes.

Seth…  And you do this by following the exercise I gave George earlier this evening.  You have to do this.

Betty…  Okay.

Seth…  Does that make more sense now?

Betty…  Yes. That is exactly where I was at tonight.  This is perfect for me today.

Seth…  I am glad I could be of some assistance.  Remember there is a two-letter word you must practice, and that word is no.  Do you understand?

Betty…  Got it.  Yes. 

Seth…  Are there any other questions? 

Arthur…  Yes.  On the same issue of deciding on which bridge to cross and which to burn, which is really about promoting self, I keep doing it and I do it, I don’t clarify it. I don’t take steps that I know I need to take or even want to take. 

Seth…  With your sister.

Arthur…  My sister, changing my career, doing what’s good for me, with burning a bridge towards people who are perpetrators.  All of that.  Why is it so difficult for me to assess my own performance?  Why do I second guess my life?

Seth…  Abandonment is the issue for you.  Don’t you feel abandoned? 

Arthur…  Yes, I think I do. (Said softly.)

Seth…  So, if you feel abandoned then how can you cross a bridge, burn it behind you when you are leaving that which you felt abandoned by?

Arthur…  So how do I change that?

Seth…  You change it by understanding the self, meaning the larger you is here to gather experiences.  Well, the question is, what type of experiences do you choose to gather?  If we choose to gather experiences that are not profitable, how does it serve you?

Arthur…  I guess it’s a negative line of study.  (Laughs.)  I don’t know.

Seth…  No, it is not a question of a line of study.  A negative line of study as Lee Chang does, a negative line of study is immensely profitable for him.  Something that is not positive to a scientist is just as important as something that is.  But a negative line of study, things that hurt you, things that you do not gain profitable experience from should be stopped.  And by crossing the bridge or in this instance your refusal to do so, because what is the repeatable problem here?  The repeatable problem is that these types of situations in your life repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.   And if you like we can take a look at seven or eight of them and notice how they all repeat themselves.

Arthur…  Maybe just two or three.  (Laughs.)  Really quickly.

Seth…  It is really simple.  Your sister is for one, a death was certainly for two in terms of abandonment, changing your career is an abandonment issue for you.  Do I have to go further?  They’re all repeatable on the same issue.

Arthur…  Yeah, and they go all the way back.  They all go all the way back to when I was born, and I am sure they go back further than that.  But at least when I was born.

Seth…  There you go.  Do you understand?  The question is you can certainly repeat them and if you don’t get them in this life, you will get them in the next or the next or the next. 

Arthur…  So, it’s facing whatever, I think…

Seth…  Not facing, it’s not facing.

Arthur…  Taking the action that…

 Seth…  It is understanding and learning from the experience.  Do you understand?  It is something to work on.

Arthur…  Thank you.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Frank…  The idea of taking someone by the hand and touching their heart.  Are there any provisions or changes in that concept when the person that you are trying to take by the hand has hurt you?  As opposed to just, they have gone a wrong direction? 

Seth…  Well, it is the same thing.

Frank…  I thought it was but…

Seth…  It is the exact same thing.  If someone, if you’re going to go ahead and let us use you and the man through whom I speak for instance, well he may say something that hurts you.  He may observe you doing something that hurts or bothers you?   Understand so far?

Frank…  Em hmm.       

Seth… And let’s assume he states this to you, whether it be correctly or incorrectly matters not.  But yet the reason that he did this is to act in terms of being a friend.  I see you doing this to yourself.  You’re not thinking, you’re not seeing something clearly. You are not making progress.  You are falling back on your old ways.  So, the touching of your heart is literally in this instance a figurative expression, meaning to grab you and to say look with me.  Change your sense of perspective.  This is what I am seeing.  Look with me. 

Frank…  The question is more if say for example Cyndi does something that hurts my feelings. 

Seth…  You mean the slime that you are married to.  The evil… (Laughter.)

Frank…  Whatever the slime did…

Seth…  No, no, I am being…

Frank… or if she does something to hurt me…

Seth…  Was it willful?

Frank…  No. It would probably not be.  Well, you know it could be. That is one division and that’s the other. Let’s ask not willful?

Seth…  In either event…

Frank…  Honey, you hurt me so I take her by the hand and I say when you do this, this hurts my feelings.

Seth…  Correct.

Frank…  So, it’s basically, it’s exactly the same steps as if she did something else that hurt herself but doesn’t necessarily hurt me.  Correct?  That was the question.  What if it is willful? Then it is the same thing anyway.

Seth…  Same thing. Matters not. 

Frank…  Only you might say please stop.

Seth…  Correct. 

Frank…  Okay.

Seth…  Do you understand?

Frank…  I understand.

Seth…  Anybody else have a question?

Arthur…  Can I ask something about this theme that I was working on last week about not being entitled? 

Seth…  No, not being entitled is again the fourth point.  You rarely think of what you have, but only what you miss. 

Arthur…  I keep myself from having all that I can have.    

Seth…  Whether or not you are keeping yourself from whatever you do not have.  If you concentrate on lack,

Arthur…  You do not have.

Seth…  You get wanting.  Which is exactly what you are concentrating on.  Does that make sense to you?

Arthur…  Yeah.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Frank…  Yeah, I have a couple.  On topic, last week I came across, I picked up a book I hadn’t picked up in months and there was, that people need to not look at each other, but with each other.  And… 

Seth…  This has been said many times, it is by an old French philosopher. 

Frank…  Right.  He wrote The Little Prince.   I looked it up and I wasn’t able to tell Jerry yet.  Um… I chose to pick up, at that point to create that? 

Seth…  No. The universe provided it for you. 

Frank…  Correct.  (Laughter and group by-play) What am I talking about?

Seth…  If you were to look at each of the points individually…

Frank…  I have…

Seth…  You could very easily find those ideas in a myriad of words, a myriad of different types of things, some exact, some slightly different, some more, some less.  What I have done with these six points is at best said to paraphrase them to give each of you an idea of where change is necessary.  The idea of when to cross a bridge, when not to cross a bridge, to work together with people instead of butting heads together, to when you love someone let them touch your heart, don’t be standoffish, even if it is a criticism they are giving you.  Learn to accept these types of things.  Look at the idea of what you do not have as compared to what you have.  Which is more profitable for you?  What you have or what you do not have?  The idea that and none of you have mentioned this that the greatest moments, the most important things in your life, are not a supernova. 

Frank…  That was going to be my next question.

Seth…  They are quiet events.  They are things that when you look back upon them, when you reflect back, my god I made such a change here, or I missed an opportunity there.  These are the types of things.  Was I so resistant to change that I could not hear?  These are great events. 

Frank…  The great events have to do with…

Seth…  Change always, always. 

Frank…  And that change could be quiet, like for example if at some point I am no longer in the forest that would be a great change.

Seth…  Not in this lifetime (kidding), but certainly yes.  The idea here is when you see a difference with you or someone else “family.”  Well, the idea here is are the differences that you see pulling you apart or can you learn from them and appreciate change that you might have to make, or they might have to make?  Remember you are not alone.  You work with individuals, and many of them.  So, the differences that you see and feel are often very important.  Far too many individuals state, if that person would do this, if that person would do that, then I can do this, and they wouldn’t do this.  That is not a difference.  That is pointing a finger at someone. And the differences that you say here is well, they have an idea about something. And if they have an idea about something, and I do not see that idea let’s explore it together.  Let’s look together, that’s a difference.  That’s a difference that is beneficial. If I have been told one thing and the next person tells me something similar, and the third person tells me something similar, and the blonde sitting over here (referencing Stephanie) then there are possibilities and the differences I am hearing may be enough to cause me to look at myself so I can become greater than what I think I am.  All this is change.  All this is done so that you gather experience to make choices that influence your outer self.  And this is always done from inside to out, not outside to in.  Go ahead. 

Frank…  In terms of having found that quote and then was I… was it correct for me to surmise, I also connected it to, the patient that I have that is always seeing the grass greener and having trouble with the grass is greener?

Seth…  That’s crossing a bridge.

Frank…  And he hasn’t

Seth…  And he never will.  Unless he decides, it doesn’t matter.  If I had a better job, if my house was better, if I had a better car, if my dog or cat was better than the neighbors. It matters not.  There is always something.  That when you have a lack within yourself, you will see others as being better, more important, more prosperous, more this, I don’t have enough money.  I can’t find the right dress. My suit isn’t good enough.  I don’t like my tie. I won’t get a new job that I want.  All this is lack, it’s an emptiness, a void.  And we handled this for a long time. 

Frank…  Well, what I’m asking is that I thought that the universe gave me this information for me but then also for secondary…

Seth…  No, I’ve given you the information for yourself and I told you long before this incident occurred that you are a teacher.

Frank…  I understand.

Seth…  And that you are to pass this information along.  If I just wanted to write a book I would sit down and I would dictate a book.  But this is more profitable because each of you can go out and pass the word.  And the one word that you pass to somebody that they pick up will be passed to someone else, and then be passed to someone else.  For example, Jasmine’s statement in her class, what would love do, well this has affected so many young individuals that by the time she ends her incarnation it could number in the hundreds of thousands.  So, the idea here is how do you perceive self in that instance?  Is it more profitable to perceive yourself as a victim or a hero?  I believe the hero is far more profitable.  But yet if you look at yourself and say I don’t have, I didn’t, I can’t, I will not, I’m weak.  What do you have?  The answer is nothing but misery. 

Frank…  But again, I think what I am asking here specifically is did I, or did I not…

Seth…  I’ve answered your question.

Frank…  Alright. 

Isabella…  But why would anybody choose that?

Seth…  Choose what?

Isabella… I can’t. I won’t. I’m weak.

Seth…  Why do you?

Isabella…   I don’t think I choose that. 

Seth…  Of course, you do.  (Isabella was mumbling, grappling with this.) You do!  And that is a statement of fact.  If you need somebody to take care of you, you choose weakness. 

Isabella…  Alright.

Seth…  Then we are finished with that.  Is there anything else? 

Frank…   Questions from connecting to other past sessions to this material, so when dealing with self the idea of belief in self, belief in self should eventually turn into faith in self.  Is that part of… (While Belief Verses Faith has been mentioned it is covered extensively as the next major topic that Seth lectures on starting with Session 411.)

Seth…  Belief is closed ended.  Faith is …

Frank…  You start with belief, but then one should have faith in themselves.

Seth…  I believe that one should never have a belief in self because once that belief may be shaken by something else that occurs, you tend to fall apart. 

Frank…  It is like self-esteem that goes up and down? 

Seth…  Correct. You need to always have faith in self, not belief. 

Frank…  Well, you are working towards it.  If one does not have faith in self then one has to work towards it.

Seth…  Towards faith in self.  Nothing to do with belief.  Nothing to do with belief.

Frank…  Alright, okay.  In terms of strengthening self, there was a session about the third eye.  But there was not of much of any kind of an explanation.  Could you, and particularly if it was going to be taught to others, how would that work in terms of the idea strengthening self?

\Seth…  You strengthen self by taking in that which the universe provides.  That is seeing.  If you are open on the exercises, all information comes from the internal self.  So, you must be open to see what there is. 

Jasmine…  Does the third eye bring information from the inside through our awareness? 

Seth…  The third eye as you will understand it, the third eye…

Jasmine…  The chakra, yeah.

Seth… is an awareness of.  But where does the greatest awareness stem from?  Inside of you.  And once you are comfortable with the inside of you, you may look to the outside universe to provide information.  But the greatest information comes from you.  You are your source of your information.  You are your source of your own resistance; you are your source of your own prosperity.  YOU ARE WHAT YOU CREATE!  That should be in capital letters and emblaze it upon your own psyche.  Your conscious mind deals with the internal aspect of yourself as well as the external aspect of yourself.  Yet when you close off to the internal portion of you, you limit that which you can accomplish.  Because your mind then has to circumvent, your conscious mind has to circumvent the blockade of where it’s getting its information from.  And therefore, you become less effective. 

Isabella…  Is that your emotional side?

Seth…  No. Your emotional side and your emotions are but a reflection of that which your conscious mind is bringing forth.  Your thoughts become your consciousness.  There are far too many therapists who supposedly deal with the idea of the unconscious as compared to the conscious mind.  In reality there is no such difference between the two.  And when you believe in an unconscious self, you have limited that which you can deal with. 

Isabella…  See I was thinking more emotional vs. rational side. 

Seth…  Rational means being able to control that which.

Isabella…  Correct. 

Seth…  In reality you can always control that which.

Isabella…  It’s whether or not I choose to.

Seth…  Correct.  See (To Stephanie) how much you missed?  (There was a back and forth between what Stephanie had read and misunderstood.)  Go ahead.

Isabella…  I think what I am struggling with these days is not allowing my emotional side to take over.  And really… 

Seth…  Well, we will deal with that next week possibly.  Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  Yeah, I wanted to ask in terms of the differences, at this point now I am having difficulty with my mother’s reactions.  She continues, you know in terms of differences, she is very afraid of confrontation and very afraid to, she is afraid period.   And her passivity angers me.

Seth…    Have you told her?

Stephanie…  I have told her and then there is a new reference point now where based on the last event having to do with my father, she has not responded at all.

Seth…  Did you ask her why not? 

Stephanie…  No, I have not yet.

Seth…  And did you say, with your inactivity and your inability to answer him is hurting me.  Are you aware of that? 

Stephanie…  Okay.  But my question would be how many times would I be continuing to confront her because that’s what makes her different. 

Seth…  You confront her as long as it continues to bother you.  If it doesn’t bother you, cross the bridge and then you don’t need it anymore.  Right now, you do. 

Stephanie…  Okay, so that’s my question.  Why would it stop bothering me?

Seth…  Because it will

Stephanie…  Because I have accepted that that’s just her?

Seth…  No. Because the acceptance of that is her is only a camouflage system. 

Stephanie…  Meaning an excuse for me to not to…

Seth…  Correct.

Stephanie…  So, my question is why will I all of a sudden not care?

Seth…  You will not care because you will have accomplished that which you seek to accomplish. 

Stephanie…  Which is what in relationship to her?

Seth…  In terms of your relationship to her, there are individuals who you can only do certain things. 

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth…  Yet, you know she is capable of more.

Stephanie…  Yes, when she chooses, that’s correct. 

Seth…  So therefore, what she does bothers you. 

Stephanie…  Because she’s choosing to not.

Seth…  Correct and that’s what’s bothering you.  So, when you understand that this is as much as she can do then of course it doesn’t matter.  But right now, you know she is capable of defending you and doing more.

Stephanie…  Okay. So that’s really the point, so it wouldn’t end my confrontations with her when I know that she has the ability to.

Seth…  Correct.

Stephanie…  Because when she does write letters, they are extremely eloquent, and she doesn’t have Alzheimer’s at all.

Seth…  Correct.  (Group laughter.) 

Frank…  Selective Alzheimer’s.

Stephanie…  Yeah, clearly.  So, I would not stop that.  It would be when she literally does not have the ability that I would let that go because the expectation would be faulty.

Seth…  Correct.  That is correct. 

George…  I heard you refer to Isabella and Frank as teachers.  Is that a reference to their basic personas?  Does that mean that they discover?

Seth…  No.  Everyone who is sitting around this table who has gathered information from me.  I choose to challenge you to become a teacher, to pass along certain ideas, information, concepts if you will, to anyone who requires them. 

Frank…  I wanted to write about dis-ease and we don’t have the material.

Seth…  Find it. 

Frank…  I was going to ask your help.

Seth…  Find it.  That’s not my problem.  That is yours. 

Stephanie…  You mean the sessions we have had?

Frank…  That was before we took notes.  (There was an extended conversation about the fact that we did not take notes earlier on in the sessions.)

Seth…  Let us move along, you can have this conversation later.  Are there any other questions? 

Stephanie…  Oh yeah, I have a two-patient question.

Seth…  We are still on subject. 

Stephanie…  Alright.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Stephanie…  I am just curious about this patient Amy that I have that I used to see in Great Neck.  All of a sudden, she has decided because she has a friend who, I don’t know, had medication, and said, oh take this, it’s the greatest.  So, she takes it and she’s like cured.  (Group laughter.) So, I am feeling a little confused about, I mean alright she’s not cured.  But my question is, is she now telling herself that the pill is her panacea and that she no longer requires therapy from me? 

Seth…  Let me ask you a simple question.  Did you read the book?

Stephanie…  Your book?

Seth…  Yes.  Covered it completely.  Reread it again. Next question. 

Stephanie…  Alright I got you.  So, but she is saying to herself this is what I required so it is becoming truth.  So, my question is, I want to know for me did I make an error in not recommending medication for her? 

Seth…  You could recommend that she take one pill of grass every day and if she believes that it works, it works.  Doesn’t matter what it is. The idea here of medication to assist people works because individuals and physicians believe that it works. 

Stephanie…  Alright. 

Frank…  It goes beyond placebo though.

Stephanie…  Yes, I understand that.  This is not somebody who had small issues.  We worked a lot on her stuff,

Frank…  It is in the book.

Stephanie…  I know that. (Laughter.)  I scanned it.

Seth…  Second question?  (Betty said something directed to Stephanie

Seth…  Go ahead, Betty.

Betty…  It can be the opposite; the therapists keep sending patients to me for medicines they don’t need.

Stephanie…  Oh.

Seth…  And that is because physicians believe that medication works.

Betty…  Yeah, and then they go my therapist says and it is very difficult. 

Seth…  I understand and whether they needed it or not you have to be the one to put them on the correct path. 

Betty…  Yup.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?  Let me leave you all with this.  Each one of you must consistently review those six ideas, if you will.  Use them wisely to foster change within self.  Doing so you will find that your needs will be met, and your wants lessened.  We will deal more with change next week.  A fond and hardy good evening to all. 

(Session ended; no time given.)

Seth 358 Give and Take and Two Concepts on Change

Seth 358

Give and Take and Two of Six Concepts on Change

Tuesday January 22, 2008

8:25 P.M.

Seth…  Good evening.  We have been dealing with the idea here of Change.  We have been dealing with give and take and I gave some information to the man through whom I speak and I had him meditate and write down a number of salient ideas if you will so that when I come to them, they will become apparent.  Whether I cover them all in this session or it takes me a few sessions we will see how things go.  As I have previously stated change is the driving force of the physical plane.  Change must also come from self.  You cannot expect another to decide for you that which path you take.  Therefore, we shall look under the idea of to give and to take and change and we come to our first point which is, you may number it one:

1) One must decide which bridge in life it is necessary to cross and which bridge is necessary to burn.  This is the ultimate idea of give and take and change in simplistic form.  Each of you routinely on a daily basis find yourself in a decision-making position.  The difficulty here in change is which decisions prosper me and which decisions hinder my growth.  Since it is necessary for each of you to decide one must view the decision as a bridge.  Life gives you a choice, it is called freewill.  One must never let anyone or anything take that freewill away even if it is painful.  The idea here of suicide, of letting the events that surround you take away that which you are so that one then ends their incarnation before they have finished their work.  They have chosen in this instance not to cross a bridge so they burn themselves and they take away that which may prosper them not only in this incarnation but in incarnations to come.

Isabella…  But it is not like they don’t…

Seth…  Let us finish this.

One must view the decision-making process as having the ability to approach and then analyze that which presents itself as a challenge!  One then, you had a question Betty?

Betty…  Yeah, could you define challenge in that context?

Seth…  Challenge is anything that gives you an opportunity for change.  Do you understand?

Betty…  Yes.

Seth…  Now, one then must be able to approach that bridge without previous bias upon your part…

Isabella…  The past…

Seth…  If you then do… I’m not cutting you short but I have a great length of material to try to cover and I will have you write down your questions, I will be happy to answer them later.  We will probably not get to all these points and we will probably leave them for the next week or two, however long it takes me to cover them.

Now, if you then understand that when you routinely do things in ways that do not benefit you, meaning you take the same route to work every day.  You wear the same type of clothing, have the same haircut.

Jasmine…  These things don’t benefit you?

Seth…  They do not benefit you.  When one looks at something that you do.  For example, are you an individual who requires a distinct set pattern of order?  Meaning when you look in a room there is something on the left balanced by something on the right which is balanced by something on the left.  You are not eclectic if you will.  One then has a much more difficult time in deciding how to proceed with a challenge.  The person who is lackadaisical who does not seem to care unfortunately is in the same position as the person who does not stop.  Where they do not understand the challenge nor do they care to pick up the idea and the work ethic that is necessary for them. 

The idea here is that one must make a decision, do I cross?  Do I take up the new challenge and leave something else behind?  Is it necessary for me to take both ideas with me across the bridge?  This is a give and take within self.  Do I give it up or do I take it with me?  One of the clear indications that one has is that the universe tends to provide you with clues as to which bridge to take and which one to burn.  Are your chance encounters similar?  Do the same type of events keep repeating themselves?  Is it easier for you to have someone else assist you, do the work for you, or lead the way?  Then my dear students it is obvious that you have not done what you are supposed to do.  One must be aware that you as an individual are responsible for you.  If someone does something that bothers you it is far easier to blame that individual then it is to correct yourself.  Which in these instances was the proper bridge?  Do you burn the ideas of doing things the same way or do you cross over and change self?  Which is more profitable?  Which is better?  Which assists you in your quest for growth. 

This quest occurs on a day to day basis.  It is a challenge that you as an individual must face.  If something bothers you, if something disturbs you the first question one must ask is this repeatable?  If it is then you are responsible for crossing the bridge, opening new dimensions for yourself.  Opening new dimensions for self and you burn the bridge behind you so that you may not cross back to old ways.  That is change.  You give yourself the ability to move forward and take with you what you need and you give away that which hinders you. You give away that which hinders you.  Individuals will say this is a very difficult concept to do.  The problem lies in the idea of not.  One tends to become paralyzed, immobile so that you do not even attempt to cross into the realm of prosperity.  You do not even attempt to cross into the realm of prosperity! 

Remember you are not working alone.  These challenges and opportunities are always in combination with others.  The concept here must be broadened.  You as an individual move within a “family” of individuals. 

2) Two people who love each other never look at each other but they must learn to look together towards a brighter future.  I do not mean an idea of two people who are lovers, who love each other.  But the idea is that you all come from the All That Is.  You all come from The All That Is.  So, in truth you love each other.  I am not stating that you may enjoy or like what someone does.  That would be ridiculous.  But you will notice that when there is confrontation two people are looking at each other.  They do not move.  They do not cross a bridge.  They do not communicate well at all.  They become entrenched and mired down in their own immoveable viewpoints.  They blame others.  They do not enjoy the beauty that surrounds them.  They point fingers and they do not appreciate that which is. 

So, my question dear students is how can one cross a bridge in a proper manner if you are only looking at the other?  You become so enmeshed if you will that the venom that each one has poisons the atmosphere, the literal air that you breathe.  You do not live behind closed doors.  It is the enlightened individual who would with the aid of himself/herself turns to their adversary, their love if you will and states, let us look together.  Let us work towards something even if it seems small or insignificant at the start.  On the physical plane change is not instantaneous.  It takes effort.  When you work in combination with someone else to ease the burden change occurs.  If you work together to move the boulder that blocks your path then you succeed.  The giving and the taking when joined as one allows you to prosper because both of you then decide to cross a bridge together. 

Now the question arises, what do you leave behind?  What bridge do you burn?  You burn intolerance.  You destroy fear.  You gain enlightenment.  The prejudice of the unknown is lessened since you are walking together hand and hand.  The object is to promote both of you in a fair and just manner.  The old statement is quite true, I could not have done this without you.  But yes, you must cross the bridge when you come to it.  The question is what happens when you don’t?  As I have previously stated the repeatable ideas and events and challenges that the universe throws at you become ever more difficult to ignore.  You cannot bury something that you do not like for in reality you call out again and again for assistance on that very subject. 

One may ask, can I cross a bridge alone?  The answer should be obvious, of course you can.  Should you?  Of course, even if it means burning the bridge and leaving the other behind.  Not everyone is ready at the same point of reference to face the challenge that has presented itself.  Not everyone chooses to make themselves available for prosperity.  Many individuals pretend that they are moving on and they have crossed the bridge into a new dimension.  The question for them is what work have you truly done?  Are you still making the same errors in judgment?  In truth, where are you going?  Are you mired down in the event or do you seek new solutions to old problems?  These are the questions that will allow you to give and to take. 

How do you know what bridge to cross and which one to burn?  The answer is simple, let us assume that you make an error and realize that this bridge was not for you.  What do you believe that you should do?  The answer is so obvious that it is frighteningly simple, you rebuild the bridge that you crossed.  You go back to the problem.  You approach it anew and then by magic you will find yourself at another bridge that will lead you in an entirely different direction.  The person who states, I am afraid chooses to be afraid.  Errors adjust errors, it is not a finality; it is not an ending of itself.  But if you need assistance look together, work together.  View the challenges and opportunities together.  Do not look at each other and become at odds with that person even if your original viewpoints seem diametrically opposed.  The challenge is to find common ground.  A bridge to prosperity is always there.  Eliminate the bridge to poverty, to repetition, to heartache by working with individuals that can assist you.  The future is always based upon the now.  Enjoy that which you are.  Expand yourself and you will find which bridges are there for your benefit and which ones you may destroy.  Work together in a productive manner and the challenges and opportunities of physical plane existence become laughable because they are in truth a remembrance of that which you are already are.  I believe at this point we shall take a break.

(Break at 9:06.)

Let us continue: Isabella, I noticed that you are not feeling overwhelmingly prosperous this evening.  The lecture is a very important one especially if you look at it in a broad sense for yourself.  How long will it take you to type it up?  (Group laughter.)

Isabella…  Six months.  I got to shoot big.

Seth…  Try again.

Isabella…  Five months?… Four months?… Three months?  Come on!  Two months, that’s eight weeks.  Seven weeks.  (Stephanie laughs.) 

Seth…  Would you… how about a week?

Isabella…  No.  Absolutely unequivocally no.

Seth…  Then let’s be reasonable.

Isabella…  Six weeks.

Seth…  Not reasonable.

Isabella…  Five weeks.

Seth…  Not reasonable.

Isabella…  That’s reasonable you give Frank six weeks.  Four weeks, a month.

Seth…  Fine.

Isabella…  Fine.  (Stephanie laughing.)

Seth…  From today.

Isabella…  Why do I have to type it?  Because I’m not writing?

Seth…   And I…

Isabella…  Maybe I’m not taking notes because that I am not feeling well.

Seth…  That is the reason why you must type up this lecture so that you…

Isabella…  You type it, Frank!

Frank…  Do you know what’s really good, there’s no questions?

Isabella…  We didn’t ask anything.

Frank…   You’re getting off again.  There’s like no questions.

Isabella…  Oh, there will be questions.

Frank…  I’ll get you my tape recorder, you can put it on slow.

Stephanie…  It’s only like four pages in typing language.  (There was more banter about the length of typing that was not completely clear.)

Seth…  Now that we have gone on in terms of whining and the crying we shall move along.  You have a month from tonight.  I was tempted to give you two weeks but I was generous because you weren’t feeling well.

Isabella…  I have a lot of dis-ease.

Seth…  One day less than a month, care to go on?

Isabella…  I just said that I have a lot of dis-ease.

Seth…  Two days less than a month.  (Stephanie laughing,)

Frank…  I hate that.

Isabella…  Can I ask my question?

Seth…  Now you may ask your question.

Isabella…  Um, I had difficulty meditating today.

Seth…  How long did you try and meditate for?

Isabella…  I tried to do the two minutes like you said and I really couldn’t, I could not go there.  I really had a hard time shutting my mind off.

Seth…  Then one must then learn to try a focus meditation.

Isabella…  I did, I was focusing on my breathing.

Seth…  No, that’s not a focus meditation.  A focus meditation is on an idea a thought, a subject, an event.

Isabella…  I did, I thought about prosperity.

Seth…  That’s not specific enough.  In other words. you may focus for example on a meditation of for example for you losing weight.  So, you would sit down and you would contemplate the idea of how it would feel to lose weight.  That is a focused meditation on a specific idea or subject.  Or you may want to do a non-focused mediation and just sit there quietly and let whatever thoughts come in for it matters not.  And you will learn to do this on a day to day basis and it will certainly, you will excuse the expression give you peace of mind.  You will then in relating this back to our lecture you will understand in a far clearer manner the idea that what bridge you are at and where and how to cross it.  For you tend to fall back upon old ways if you will and of course this is not helpful at all.  Do you understand?

Isabella…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Did I answer your question?

Isabella…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Frank…  (Is laughing hardily, probably looking at Isabella.)  No way!  (Stephanie laughing and then Isabella laughing who may be gesturing at Frank.)  Wow.

Seth…  Pass the microphone.

Frank…  Now I am asking two questions.  (Frank laughing and the group is giggling.) 

Isabella…  That’s alright, I’ll remember the next time that you are going to type.

Frank…  You…  Listen you could not surpass what you did on the 29 pages that I typed up, so.

Isabella…  Yeah, that’s bad.

Frank…  And next time don’t tattle tale on me. 

Isabella…  I didn’t.

Frank…  (In a whiney voice.) You gave Frank six weeks!  (Group laughing.)

Okay, the idea of looking towards together could you give me that in a form to help couples that I might be working with.

Seth…  Couples who are at odds tend to view each other with disdain, they point fingers at each other. She did this, she did that, he did this he did that.  I said this, he doesn’t listen.  Instead of the finger pointing if you love each other you will say yes this is a problem.  How can we both solve the problem together?  What are some of your ideas about this problem?  What are some of mine?  Well I want to ignore this.  Well if you want to ignore this how does that assist me?  Do you understand what I am saying when individuals one believes there is a problem one believes there is none?  How does that assist me?  So, when you get individuals on common ground, they then “walk” together to solve the problem.  For the first step has already been taken by seeing a therapist.  Not that many of you do any good but that is neither here nor there.  (Seth often comments about therapists negatively and humorously as he has explained that therapists tend to take away patient’s creativity and freewill which hinders change.  He advocates asking questions to engage thinking, among other things.  It is interesting to note that over the years many therapists and teachers have sat around the table.) 

Frank…  This is going to; this may be a little concrete but…

Seth…  Well that might be helpful for you.

Frank…  Thanks.  (Frank chuckles.)  For couples to, to teach couples to listen with more than with just their ears I have them facing each other.  Should sometimes I change it up and throw them on the couch, so they are actually next to each other?

Seth…  No, actually in this instance when you teach couples who love each other to look forward it is better that they have a face to face dialog because this way the expressions of want, the body language of want, the tension of want is easily recognized by the other.  Nonverbal communication is much more effective than the word.  Words are perhaps the least effective form of communication because they cannot be interpreted well.  Nonverbal communication when somebody points a finger, when somebody’s face shows anger is clear that there is something wrong that you cannot hide from.  Do you understand?

Frank…  I do.  But I was just taking some of the metaphor of looking towards something together and I know concretely…

Seth…  I know that’s when you get lost in the little forest there.

Frank…  That’s why I asked.  I have other questions that…

Seth…  Go ahead.

Frank…  No, they are off topic.  I would rather go back to them.

Stephanie…  Well I would just ask a patient…

Frank…  I have a patient question too, um…

Seth…  Jasmine, do you have anything?

Jasmine…  No, actually I am going to say goodnight.

Frank…  See you next week.

Jasmine…  Goodnight everybody.

Frank…  I have a mentally ill patient that I am working with.  He is pretty, he is somewhat psychotic at times.  He’s a gentleman from Morocco so there is this cultural piece.  He has difficulties with his eyes and I have worked quite a bit around with him to try and ease up his issue with this.  So, in other words he has kind of a thing like don’t think of a pink elephant and of course he thinks of a pink elephant.  In this case he looks into pocketbooks, he looks at their groins and…

Seth…  You realize this is a form of jealously.

Frank…  He’s jealous of the people, actually no.

Seth…  Actually yes.

Frank…  No, I didn’t realize, I understand… 

Seth…  Oh.

Frank… what you’re saying.  So, I could explore that with him.  Is there anything else… that would be helpful to work with this gentleman?

Seth…  When someone deals with jealously, they have I do not, the question is what do they have?  What do they feel that they are lacking?  Those are the questions that need to be explored.  Are there any other questions?

Then let me leave you all with this: I have touched upon two ideas, the bridge and the individuals who love each other.  When you face the challenges fairly, life is easy.  You work together, problem solving becomes simple.  Your needs are met.  When you refuse to cross a bridge, when you do not burn behind you that which no longer serves you then of course you wants magnify, fears increase, prosperity falls away.  I bid both of you a fond good evening.(Session ended at 9:37 PM)

Seth 355 Change and the Questioning Mind

Seth 355

Change and the Questioning Mind

Tuesday December 11, 2007

8:37 p.m.

Seth…  Good evening.  

Everyone…  Good evening.

Seth…  A pleasure to have you all with me again.  Some housekeeping that we shall attempt to cover.  Isabella feel free to ask questions.

Isabella…  I am not asking a thing!  Nothing!

Seth…  You will never ask another question again.  Is that what I am hearing?

Isabella…  No but I am only asking in a private session.

Seth…  So, in other words I can never expect you during a regular session to ever ask a question again?  Be careful of what you say.

Isabella…  No, just not on the early-stage level.  (Frank is chuckling in the background.)

Seth…  So therefore, you wouldn’t mind of course since you are not going to begin to type sessions.

Isabella…  Would you like me to type the session?

Seth…  I have no preference one way or another.  You can start with session one hundred.

Isabella…  No, no, I need a break.  (Stephanie laughs.)

Seth…  Then you do mind.

Isabella…  I don’t want to have to keep having this banter back and forth because someone is going to have to type this.  (Group laughter.)

Seth…  Well, I just simply asked a question and you have not given me an answer.  Do you want to type more sessions?  Yes, or no?

Isabella…  Um… you know that is a trick question.  (Some group giggling.)  It is because I don’t want to do it because of the tedious nature of it but that’s not my excuse.  It was my fault because I left it for the last minute, and you know…

Seth…  So therefore, you don’t mind if you did it properly.

Isabella…  If I did it properly…

Seth…  We will keep that in mind.  Let’s move along.  To our friend Frank, how is typing going?

Frank…  (Big breath.)  I have a lot of things, Seth.

Seth…  By the next time we meet that session had better be done otherwise I shall assign you four.

Frank…  (Somebody grunted.)  We’re not meeting for three weeks, that’s not a problem.  (Frank laughs.)

Seth…  I know.  (Group laughter.)

Frank…  I’ll have it done by then, no problem.

Isabella…  Three weeks goes fast, Frank.

Frank…  That’s not the issue; believe me I’ll have it done.

Seth…  We will be glad to see that finished and done with there.

Frank…  Will you yell at Jerry for not finishing the other ones that I have typed that he hasn’t handed out?

Seth…  Certainly, Jerry!  Finish typing them!  (Laughter.)  Does that make you feel better?

Frank…  Kind of.

Isabella…  Can you find somebody else to do all the typing…

Frank…  Ooh.

Isabella… besides Frank and I?

Seth…  I assign what I believe that is necessary and that someone will get something out of it.  And that session that you recently typed up if you listened to the ideas and the expressions that were there given you would have understood why I asked you to type up that session because that session was for you basically.  (Note, Frank is typing all of the un-typed sessions on Change before Stephanie began transcribing beginning with Session 395 on February 10th, 2009.  Doing so is assisting me in absorbing and understanding the material on a much deeper level and while this was always understood there is also a greater appreciation for the activity of typing. F.N.) 

That being stated on our larger subject of Change we shall continue along.  One of the ideas that one must learn to understand is the idea of questioning self and you must always understand that those who do not question themselves fall short in terms of their ability to comprehend, to make progress and to find the most profitable avenues that one can.  As children you were taught acceptance of adult ideas and methods for obtaining any stated set of goals.  When a child incorporates this behavior into themselves one tends to accept authority without question.  It should be noted that accepting anything without question is indeed foolhardy.  Therefore, the question arises, change itself is mandatory for success on the physical plane.  Yet how does one change if one has been taught to accept and expect the powers that be to provide the “information” that you require?  When an individual becomes dissatisfied, ill at ease if you will with the nature of things, then of course change although frightening becomes necessary.  One must learn and certainly teach that the requirement for success is a questioning mind!  Remember it is not what the question is but the ability to question that gives all those who inhabit the physical plane the ability to progress in any line of study.  Far too many individuals have been taught that their questions are foolish, they are not important.  To these individuals I state, how can learning occur when it is obvious that you do not understand?

One of the great benefits of our little round table discussions much to Isabella’s dismay is the ability to ask and receive information that you desire!  A good argument is necessary at times for learning.  Period.  The challenges are necessary for without them you cannot learn.  There are many who would state, I would like an easier life, look at them but why not me?  My answer to them is clear; one must learn to break away from the usual.  That which is routine, that which is common, that which is easy for most serves no useful purpose.  One needs a challenge routinely so that their intellectual and creative abilities have and should be stimulated, first by self and then of course by others.  So, let us ask a question, we shall go around if you will.  What have you done recently to break away from the usual?  And I believe some effort will be necessary from each of you to be able to answer that question properly and my statement is this if you have done nothing state it.  Are you continuing in your same old way?  Do we have a volunteer?

Isabella…  I’ll volunteer.

Seth…  And you may pass it along or if Betty wants to come in at any time she may.

Isabella…  I actually feel I’ve done a few things out of the um, to break away from the usual for me.  I’m trying very hard to live within the community and as per our private session that we had recently, I’ve been bringing in the newspaper every day for my parents.

Seth…  Let me ask you a question.  That is certainly breaking away from your usual routine.  Now be fair to self, how much effort do you really put into bringing in the newspaper?  Where one would be very easy and ten would be immensely difficult?

Isabella…  Um, well… it’s not…

Seth…  It’s not a trick question.

Isabella…  No, no, no, it’s not that it’s hard to bring in the newspaper, it’s just out of the ordinary for me to do it.

Seth…  So now that you have done it let’s say for one or two or three or four or how many days you’ve done it for…

Isabella…  How difficult?

Seth…  How difficult is it?

Isabella…  It’s not difficult.

Seth…  So, you would say it’s a one?

Isabella…  Ah yeah, a one or a two.

Seth…  What type of pleasure does that give you as an individual…

Isabella…  At a one or a two?

Seth…  No, no, the fact that you, did it?

Isabella…  Tremendous.

Seth…  Would you say nine and ten?

Isabella…  Yeah.

Seth…  So, we may, and we’ll write this down, we may see clearly that for most it does not take great effort to achieve greatness.  The pleasure that one gets has nothing to do with the difficulty of the task!

Isabella…  I also, oh.

Seth…  I believe that we shall leave it go because it may take some time for everybody else.  You may ask this later.

Isabella…  I didn’t have a question.  I was just going to say more things.

Seth…  Unnecessary, you’ve succeeded well.   

Would you like to go or…

Isabella…  (I believe Isabella grabbed the microphone.)  I’ve been a doing tremendous amount of effort!  (Group laughter.)

Seth…  Would you like to go although you do not have to Mary?  (Mary is Frank’s sister.)

Mary…  Um no, I’ll go.  One of the major changes that I’ve done this year is that I started school.  (Mary began school to become a massage therapist.)  It was a big change for me and a…

Seth…  So, what possessed you to attempt a major life altering decision?

Mary…  Well, I have been doing hair for twenty something years and I decided I wanted a change.  And I honestly feel that…

Seth…  Your life became mundane, was routine.

Mary…  Well somewhat.  I don’t know.  (Frank and Mary laughed.)

Seth…  Then if you do not know why you did something the question must arise why did you do it?

Mary…  Oh, because I honestly believe that I have an ability to heal.

Seth…  Whether you have an ability to heal or not matters not.  We are not talking about what you hope to accomplish we are talking about why you decided to do anything that was different, go back to school, not stay where you were.  Remember doing let’s say someone’s hair and making them feel beautiful from the inside out is the same healing that you will have in terms of physically making them feel better by a massage.  The beauty that one radiates from internally is just as important as the physical comfort you will give someone.  You understand?

Mary…  Em hmm.

Seth…  So, the question falls back on to where it was.  Why did you decide to go ahead and make the change?

Mary…  Um, well I had in mind that I wanted to do it before my mother got sick. 

Seth…  Why?

Mary…  Because I wanted to just do something different and…

Seth…  Why? (Mary giggles a bit and may not be sure how to answer.)

Aren’t you sorry you said I would speak?  (Everyone laughs.)

Mary…  Well, honestly because I… I honestly believe that I could help people.

Seth…  But you are helping people routinely in other fashions.  Because as I stated earlier.  People decide to do something that is life altering when they are unsatisfied with what they have been doing previously.  And that is an important thing to write down.

Mary…  Okay.

Seth…  People, individuals decide to make life altering changes when they become unsatisfied on their current path.

Mary…  Okay.

Isabella…  Can people also make life altering changes out of fear?

Seth…  Certainly, that is not usually as profitable but certainly.

Isabella…  Like in Jacob’s case, obviously that was a life altering decision for him to leave.

Seth…  I knew where this was going.

Isabella…  So, (Laughs.) so it obviously wasn’t his… that’s not as profitable as…

Seth…  Doing anything out of fear is never profitable.

Our friend Frank?

Frank…  I’m not sure how much this is really “breaking away” but I think that meeting with Jerry and trying to deal with like difficulties with anger is somewhat of a shift.  And…

Seth…  Somewhat!?

Frank…  Well…

Seth…  Let me ask you a question…

Frank…  What do you mean, the last seven years?  (Laughs.)

Seth…  Is this not one of the most difficult problems you have?

Frank…  Yes, it is.

Seth…  Is this not one that has plagued you?

Frank…  Yes, it is.

Seth…  Please explain to me how this is not life altering?  The first step…

Frank…  It has not been successful yet.

Seth…  How do you know?

Frank…  I don’t believe it’s been successful yet.  I think there are some beginning changes, but I don’t…  I don’t have proof that it is successful yet.

Seth…  What proof do you need other than the fact that you have done it?

Frank…  I need to see that I can stand up for self in different situations and that it’s, that it is not a problem for me.

Seth…  And if I tell you that you have started to stand up for yourself?

Frank…  I…

Seth…  And that is all you need is the first step.

Frank…  I believe that I have…

Seth…  And I believe if you would get out of the forest and look at the sunshine with this issue, you’ll be far better off.

Frank…  Okay.

Jasmine…  I would say similarly that in my work with Stephanie I have become aware of many issues that were you know life affecting and I am presently working on making changes to those areas.  But the awareness um has… the awareness of so many things has really helped.

Seth…  Write this down, please.  When individuals become aware that the changes that they are attempting are starting to take root the idea of change becomes less frightening.  It is the questioning of self that allows you to review that which you are learning.  You draw into yourself that which you require and discard that which is at that point of reference worthless to you.

Would you like to continue Jasmine?

Jasmine…  No.

Shanna…  Um, the first thing I thought of was that I just had to come out of my comfort zone.  Recently last week when I had to teach a new class, you know that I was not comfortable teaching with initially, and I had to put a lot of effort into it and I just kind of forced myself to I don’t know, take a leap of faith in myself.  So that was unusual for me.

Seth…  That is of course, is the second point that we have dealt with.  You are breaking away from the usual.  So, when you come out from yourself, you can write this down.  When one comes out from themselves their normal routine must be changed since it is impossible to continue on the same path if the routine is now different.  If the routine is different, then of course you must be different. 

More or less?

Shanna…  I’ll tell you later because my question is in reference to this but…

Seth…  Go ahead.

Shanna…  In dealing with something out of the ordinary or the unusual, off the routine path could it also be something like not… doing like a habitual behavior pattern in a relationship?

Seth…  Of course, that is one of the more difficult things to deal with.

Shanna…  But what so… so if I did something out of the usual for me in my relationship with my husband but yet it was so not a profitable situation?  (Laughs.)

Seth…  Why does everything and you write this down.  Why does everything that anyone does have to be profitable?

Shanna…  Why does everything?

Jasmine…  Anybody anything.

Seth…  Do you believe that anything that everyone does has to be profitable?

Shanna…  No, it doesn’t.  I guess just because of the…

Seth…  Let me finish.

Shanna…  Okay.

Seth…  The answer is quite simple.  Without failure one cannot learn to appreciate success.  And the more difficult portion of this is simple, you may have been correct and the other may have been incorrect…

Stephanie… And that’s why it wasn’t profitable.

Seth…  That’s why it wasn’t profitable.  Does that help?

Shanna…  Yes.

Seth…  Kaetorina?

Stephanie…  Um…

Seth…  Don’t worry Betty, I have not forgotten you.

Stephanie…  One can say that I have taken the hugest leaps of my life, (Laughs.) in the past two months I would say.  Out of the box would definitely be the idea of confronting my father with my entire life (Laughs.) and how he has treated me.  And the other would definitely be stepping out of my beauty jail… that my father helped to create.

Seth…  And again, I ask you the same questions that I ask Isabella.  How hard was it for you to step out, we will ask the first one, the beauty jail?

Stephanie…  Immensely. 

Seth…  And you are not out yet.

Stephanie…  Right.

Seth…  Moving along.  How in comparing and contrasting with the beauty jail how hard was it for you to face up to your father’s inadequacies if you will? 

Stephanie…  Immensely.

Seth…  You believe so, please explain why?

Stephanie…  Because I was taught as a daughter, a child that one doesn’t do that to their parents and stand up for themselves and promote themselves over and above parents’ views and…

Seth…  One does never question adult authority I believe I started with this, this evening.

Stephanie…  Yes, you did.  So…

Seth…  How true is that statement now?

Stephanie…  Not true at all.

Seth…  And it should never have been true, and it should never be taught.  One cannot work under, write this down.  One should not have the erroneous belief that children should not ask.  Now I am not stating here that individuals should not tell a young child, do not run into the street because there is a car coming.  Nonsense.   Of course, you do not allow someone who does not have the ability to make a rationale decision to injure themselves.  For the most part children must always be encouraged to question.  And our last and third point this evening one must learn to be honest with the questions you ask and how you interpret the answers that you receive.

Let us move to Betty.  Betty?

Betty…  Oh, yes.

Seth…  You’re on.

Betty…  I’m on.  I have moved out of state, packed up a life and…

Seth…  That was awhile ago, what have you done recently?

Betty…  Recently?  Um, probably from that starting to stand up for myself and probably most recently that’s been pushed to the point of fighting for myself.

Seth…  How are you fighting for yourself?

Betty…  I am actually taking… I’m about to write up a grievance on my lawyer.

Seth…  And?

Betty…  And probably on the work front in terms of what I am choosing to handle, turning patients away that I feel put me at risk for liability.

Seth…  Honesty therefore becomes mandatory if one chooses to perceive change correctly.  How can any individual choose a lie over the truth?  Individuals do this out of fear and the refusal to look at their inadequacies and the delusions that they promote to themselves as well as to others.  If one breaks away from the usual one tends to ask themselves questions that are honest.  When one keeps to a strict routine, when one has behaviors that are repeatable, that occur again and again and again then one has great difficulty in terms of being honest, first to self and then of course to others.  Ask questions.  Do not accept the status quo.  Change what must be changed knowing full well that fear will be your companion.  But limit fear by knowing that in the larger sense of all ONE CANNOT FAIL!

I believe at this point we shall take a break.  (9:21)

Seth…  Are there any questions?

Isabella…  I actually have one about chocolate.  (Group laughter.)

Seth…  A plethora.

Isabella…  I’m really starting to get the hang of creating for self thing.  At least I’m really working. Really consciously working on it and I’m just…

Seth…  How’s “The Secret” going?

Isabella…  I did read.

Seth…  And when have you spoken with the man through whom I speak?

Isabella…  We have not had time yet.  But I have reminded him numerous times that I wanted to sit down and talk to him, so it is his fault not mine.

Seth…  I disagree.

Isabella…  Of course, you would.

Seth…  Why would I disagree?

Isabella…  Because you always disagree with me.

Seth…  No.  Because whose responsibility is it to get the work done…

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth… his or yours?

Isabella…  No, it’s mine.

Seth…  Therefore, Seth one…

Isabella…  Isabella none.

Seth…  Zero.

Isabella…  Okay.  So, I’m interested in the experience that I have with the soda machine today was an example of creating?

Seth…  Obviously.  Next question.

Isabella…  Okay.  Um, and also in terms of aid is that also part of creating, of bringing what is necessary?

Seth…  Of course.

Isabella…  Okay.  And…

Frank…  Well, you’re working right through these!

Isabella…  Fast.  (Some giggling.)  I wrote down some things.  In terms of giving, being selfish can (Laughs.) you shed some light on that subject for me?

Seth…  No.

Isabella…  Why?

Seth…  Whose responsibility is it to understand a statement?

Isabella…  But I’m having difficulty understanding it, so I wanted to…

Seth…  And how many people have others and the man through whom…

Isabella…  Multiple!  I have spoken to my father and Stephanie.

Seth…  And how have they done so far?

Isabella…  Very well.

Seth…  Then continue on speaking with them.

Shanna…  I don’t understand.

Isabella…  I wanted to know how being giving was also being selfish.  Yeah, when I can finally understand that is when I am done with this line of study?

Seth…  No, but you will be well on your way to, and you will certainly…

Isabella…  With the community that’s what you were saying.  When I can finally understand that then the community piece will be… over.

Seth…  No, I did not say (Isabella laughs.) over. 

Isabella…  Will be working towards.  Um in reality to my children in school being very, very low functioning and weak, I’m wondering if there is… if you have any advice as to how I can better assist them to be successful.

Seth…  One must learn to challenge.

Isabella…  I do… I do though.  I push them.

Seth…  I guess it was not necessary for me to speak.

Isabella…  No but I push them to the maximum of their potential…

Seth…  That’s the problem.  In terms of being a profitable teacher one must always understand that pushing an individual often serves no useful purpose.  Let me tell you the story and it is a very simple one of the ideas of pushing an individual.  Let us assume that you have information or the fact that you know you are correct and that in your opinion you believe that this other individual would profit from your knowledge shall we say.  Yet that individual is hampered by an individual inability to comprehend or at least to deal with the information that you choose to present.  Now a good teacher at that point takes a step backward and asks very simple questions.  The teacher who is not good turns to ask and ram down the throat…

Stephanie…  Are you using this example again?

Seth…  When it fits, I use it, (Seth is referring to an example when Stephanie was insistent with information with a patient.  Stephanie is grumbling good-naturedly.) and then rams down knowledge down the throat of another individual not only cannot listen but will not listen and will not assist the teacher in their efforts in terms of they walk away.

Isabella…  Em.

Seth…  In your case the student cannot walk away but effectively does by closing off.  So, your object is to prevent the closing off or walking away in other instances so that you may approach them on a more simplistic level.  You give to that student that which you already know they can do and then you increase the difficulty or the complexity if you will on a moment-to-moment basis.

Isabella…  And that is pretty much what I am doing however they are required by New York State to pass an exam that… and it’s not just my classes it’s this sixth grade as a whole is very low functioning.  It’s the cohort of kids which obviously they… this has been prearranged they decided on this before they incarnated.  Um, I don’t know what purpose, why it is but supposedly this is the weakest grade that’s ever come through our school district.   And so, I can’t, I have to not teach the way that I have been teaching in the best because they’re just not capable of acquiring the knowledge in the same way.  So, I have changed a lot and I really do slow everything down and present it to them very differently, but they are responsible for taking this exam and I am having a lot of difficulty preparing them for it.

Seth…  Then what you will start doing is you will start notifying the parents…

Isabella…  Em.

Seth… of this.  That you are going to be sending home a good deal of extra work and extra help so that these type of students as well it will benefit the entire class of course, will start doing at home in addition to whatever work you’re doing that they may be ready for a state exam since so many individual students require additional work on a topic or a subject.

Isabella…  And why in particular is this group so weak?  What is this arrangement?

Seth…  The answer is because they are.

Isabella…  So, they didn’t pre-choose this before they incarnated?

Seth…  It is not a question of pre-choosing; each individual soul is an individual soul onto itself.

Isabella…  Okay.

Seth…  And therefore, because they are an individual soul onto themselves, they tend to fall into categories where it’s easy to say this is a very weak situation.  But within that system itself are individuals who are very intelligent.

Isabella…  There are but not…

Seth…  Not enough to counterbalance I understand.

Isabella…  Not at the same capacity that other years have had.  It’s very, it’s very strange.

Seth…  Remember the best way I can describe this to you is that the idea of a pendulum swinging.  On one side you may get a whole grade that is very, very advanced and of course counterbalance that you will have areas where in certain years the grade is very poor.

Isabella…  Okay, now just one last thing in regards to coming out of your comfort zone and kind of doing the unusual.  Obviously, I’m recognizing that my old pattern of falling into the situation in a relationship and giving up other aspects of my life and I am just curious as to when I decided to talk to Shanna about not doing that and utilizing her help, would that be stepping out of the usual.

Seth…  Of course, and it is also forces Shanna to step out from her usual comfort zone because she tends not to confront individuals who have bothered her.

Isabella…  So that was good for both of us?

Seth…  I believe I just said that.  (Group laughter.)

Isabella…  Okay.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Shanna…  Yeah, I have a question.  Okay, I’m trying really hard to wrap my mind around this whole change thing in reference to my relationship with Philip.  So, when in the beginning you said that when one has been taught to and expect things and that’s why it’s difficult for some people to change because the authority has always been there.  Now that I relate to but in Philip’s case, I feel like his view won’t change because he’s always like there is no point in it.  He was never really taught to accept and expect…

Seth…  How many individuals were really taught to change is the question.

Shanna…  None, but I’m just trying to understand where his viewpoint comes from. 

Seth…  His viewpoint comes to keep the status quo out of fear.

Shanna…  Right, okay so… (Long pause.) is that why I see Philip as seeing change as negative because he’s scared?

Seth…  Most individuals see change as negative.  Remember change and its companion at times fear…

Shanna…  Em hmm.

Seth… become devastating to individuals because they have become so use to a routine that any difference in that routine becomes frightening.

Shanna…  Right but how do I help him see the other side of that?

Seth…  Well, first of all one sees the other side by first of all, seeing what others do, going ahead and having an open line of communication is vastly important.  Without that communication one to the other one tends never to choose the change especially when it is a couples’ difficulty.  Since it is easier to accept the status quo in this or any instance and when one accepts the status quo, why should they change?  She’s satisfied. I don’t have to worry.  Yet if you keep a line of communication no matter how difficult it is and say this is not satisfactory, this is not profitable, this is not the way I would like to have my creativity patterns to be used.  I would like to advance here, I would like a better home, I would like a house, I would like children.

Shanna…  Well, that’s pretty much like you know what has happened recently is that I have expressed to him what you just said about how important I view change and where I want the change to go and how I want to… How certain things are not satisfactory, or they will not be satisfactory but he’s so uncomfortable so I don’t know where that leaves like…

Seth…  Because someone is uncomfortable, what difference does it make?

Shanna…  What I should have said…

Seth…  Let me ask you a question.

Shanna… that, I should have really said that he is so comfortable.

Seth…  No, he is uncomfortable with change.

Shanna…  With change but he’s still comfortable where he is that he doesn’t want to change.

Seth…  Because no one challenges him.

Shanna…  Right, but now that I am starting to challenge him…

Seth…  He becomes angry.

Shanna…  Yeah.

Seth…  And therefore, your tendency because you do not like to confront, you do not do arguments well, you tend to be shy, you tend, need I go on?

Shanna…  No but sometimes it’s ah, you know…

Seth…  I’m not saying you do not fight.  (Shanna laughs.)  I’m saying what your personality is.

Shanna…  You know what it is?  (Laughs.)  It’s that the difficulty with Philip is that if I even attempt to fight with him on any subject matter he does not come out of his own orbit at any point.

Seth…  Is that not a learned experience?  Is that not the routine? 

Shanna…  Yeah!

Seth…  Now therefore you have two choices.  You do go to therapy.

Isabella…  Well, that’s what we are doing.

Seth…  And therefore, you fight it out there with a neutral third party.

Shanna…  But he wouldn’t come with me last week.

Seth…  What does that tell you?

Shanna…  That he’s scared.

Seth…  And what does that tell you long range if he refuses to go?

Shanna…  Well, long range it’s… things tell me that it’s okay because he’s come back to therapy.

Seth…  That’s not what I asked you.  (Shanna laughs.)  Please answer my question and not one you would like to make up.

Shanna…  Well, no, only because he has major fears to deal with.

Seth…  That is not what I asked.

Shanna…  Then I don’t understand what you’re asking right now.

Seth…  I asked you if he constantly refuses to go what long-range conclusions can you draw.  Just because he came back once…

Shanna…  Well, he didn’t go back yet.

Seth…  Assuming that he does.

Shanna…  Uh huh.

Seth…  What long range conclusions if this behavior…

Shanna…  That he doesn’t want to change.

Seth…  And where will that leave you?

Shanna…  Either having to accept it or not.

Seth…  And do you choose to accept it?

Shanna…  I may.

Seth…  And if you choose to accept it why go back?

Shanna…  To therapy?

Seth…  Correct.

Shanna…  I have to hope that things will change.

Seth…  Praying and hope is want, and all you will get is praying and hope.

Shanna…  So then why go back to therapy?

Seth…  That’s what I asked you.

Shanna…  Because things need to change.

Seth…  Ah, then therefore you are unwilling to accept him as he is.

Shanna…  Well, that’s what he says.

Seth…  Is that something that is wrong?

Shanna…  No.

Seth…  A woman who is beaten by her husband because he doesn’t like the way she cooked dinner…

Shanna…  Em hmm.

Seth…  Is that an acceptable behavior?

Shanna…  No.

Seth…  Therefore, he must change if the behavior is to become acceptable.  If things that you disagree with him about…

Shanna…  Em hmm.

Seth… And we will assume for this purpose or this statement that you are correct.

Shanna…  Em hmm.

Seth…  If he refuses to change then you are acting and you agree with this, you are acting as the woman who has just been beaten by not making a good dinner.

Shanna…  Right but what’s wrong with me having faith in him changing in the future?

Seth…  One, that is not the subject that is under discussion, I will tend to tell you we are not speculating…

Shanna…  Em hmm.

Seth… about what will be.  I have made a simple statement to you that if he refuses to change where does that leave you and you have made a statement that you believe that things need to change because you are dissatisfied, remember the beginning portion my lecture with the status quo.  If you accept the status quo you do not need to go into therapy and you may leave him be as he is in this lifetime and the next and the next and the next.

Shanna…  Right.

Seth…  If you believe that status quo must change, whose responsibility is it?

Shanna…  Mine.

Seth…  Where would you like to go from here?  Other than you said that need for change is apparent to you…

Shanna…  Em hmm.

Seth…  You cannot accept the status quo and therefore if he does not change you are not willing to accept it.

Shanna…  Right.  So where is it like the time on that?

Seth…  Why does there have to be a time?

Isabella…  You’ll know.

Shanna…  But that’s what I mean like…

Seth…  Why does there have to be any mention in this room ever of time?

Shanna…  So… I mean there’s, there’s no harm in me having patience with him needing to change.

Seth…  Absolutely not and I encourage the patience, do I not have patience with you?

Shanna…  Yes, now you do.  (Laughs.) 

Seth…  I always do.

Shanna…  Because I just, I just see it as him having such a fear to look within and to look even remotely at himself.

Seth…  And whose job is it to help and assist?

Shanna…  Help him?

Seth…  Yes.

Shanna…  Mine.  Well, that’s what I am saying like that’s for me to be patient and say okay he’s going to come back to therapy and…

Seth…  And I asked you a simple question, what happens if he doesn’t.

Shanna…  Then I have to make a decision.

Seth…  Yes, you do.

Shanna…  Yeah.

Seth…  Which is fearful for you because tht would cause change.

Shanna…  Yeah, I mean it is and it isn’t fearful for me right now because I am still at the patient part.

Seth…  We are not talking about that, and I applaud…

Isabella…  You don’t even want to look at it, Shanna.

Seth…  I don’t believe she asked you the question and when you turn about (Isabella laughs.) five to six billion years you have a right to make a statement.  (Group is giggling.)

Isabella…  I can tell her.

Seth…  Not helpful.

Do you understand?

Shanna…  Yeah.

Seth…  I agree and applaud the idea of patience.  I encourage patience.  I encourage you to examine that which you are not satisfied with not that what our friend Frank would do (Shanna giggles.) but I encourage you to examine this and in doing so you will get a clearer indication of what for you and you alone will be able to tolerate or not.

Shanna…  Right and I am settled at a high tolerance level right now.

Seth…  There is nothing wrong with that.

Shanna…  Right.

Seth…  It wouldn’t matter if you said I have a very low tolerance.

Shanna…  No, but that is where I am right now and if I was at a very low tolerance, I think I would be more fearful of…

Seth…  No, not necessarily.  Do not confuse the two. No.

Shanna…  No.

Seth…  No.

Shanna…  Okay.

Seth…  Did I assist in this matter, make matters far worse?

Shanna…  No. (Laughs.)

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Betty…  I have, well it seems like we are going around the table like some of the comments were that I am bouncing off I guess is the portion that follows me regarding the honesty, something that I particularly have to look at or is this more generalized?

Seth…  Yes, in terms of your being more honest with yourself it is one of your great difficulties.

Betty…  (Pause.)  Could you say more about that?

Seth…  One of the difficulties is when one wavers in their ideas and when one constantly reverts back to old behaviors if you will…

Betty…  Okay.

Seth…  Did I finish enough?  (Frank giggles.)  I believe I did, is there anything else Betty?

Betty…  No.

Frank…  I was, I understand what you said before, but I still wish to ask this question: in terms of anger and creative explosions and in terms of myself but then also like helping others as patients sometimes there doesn’t seem to be enough powder or things are mixed such that you don’t have enough to create the explosion if you will.

Seth…  Whose difficulty, is it? 

Frank…  It would be….

Seth…  Who are you describing right now?

Frank…  Me!

Seth…  Right.

Frank…  Right.

Seth…  And you don’t know when enough is enough.

Frank…  No, I don’t.

Seth…  And that’s one of the things where you will deal with the man through whom I speak to find out what enough is enough.  (At this time Frank was meeting with Jerry on a regular basis working on a number of issues such as confrontation and anger.)

Frank…  Okay, so just leave it at that at this point?

Seth…  Yes.

Betty…  That brings out something that occurs in general.

Seth…  So that is, that is for most individuals a great difficulty, Betty.

Betty…  That’s exactly where I am at.

Seth…  I know.

Betty…  When is enough enough?

Seth…  That’s why I asked you the questions that I did.  Are you finished, Betty?

Betty…  I’ll listen, yes.

Seth…  Are there any other questions?

Let me leave you with this: If on never questions themselves one keeps to their old routines, one is not honest then most assuredly your needs will fall by the wayside, you’ll be left wanting, your existence will be without profit and change becomes impossible.  Do you see where this would help George?

Isabella…  Yes.

Seth…  I bid you all a very fond good evening.

(Session ended at 10:13 P.M.)