Seth 554
The Last Session on Change
Tuesday November 11, 2014
9:10 PM
Seth… Good evening, it is always a pleasure to have you here with me. A small bit of housekeeping before we go on. Deborah, do you have four questions previously written down? (This session is being placed as per Seth’s instructions with the material on Change. Dictated in 2014 it has been six years since the last session on Change. Seth had been talking about Growth and Development specifically on Soul Ages at the time of this session. One student had a particularly hard time with asking questions and Seth would not continue with that material until she formulated at least four questions. It is now six years later in December of 2020 as I begin to edit it, and it may be another six years or more before it sees the light of day as published material. That would be 2026! Talk about time being simultaneous! F.N. Actually, published May of 25 on The New Seth.com on WordPress https://thenewsethsessions.com/ )
Seth… Deborah, what I would strongly recommend is that you have a number of individuals here that you can consult with over the next few days to help you come up with questions that we will deal with in our next session. After those questions are dealt with, we shall move along. One of the things I am trying to teach you that will stand you in good stead for your profession and for your incarnation is how to formulate and ask proper questions. You have a great tendency to believe that if you listen you will understand completely. You are also afraid to ask questions out of fear of looking foolish. You cannot succeed without making an error somewhere. The more resistant you are to the idea of I cannot make an error the more errors you will make. Use the resources of the others around this table to help you look at questions that will be appropriate for this level of baby souls. The information that I give will pale in comparison to the necessity for you to ask a question.
Deborah… Thank you.
Seth… Since we need Deborah’s questions to complete this concept, we will then have a question-and-answer session on anything except baby souls. Therefore, do we have a question?
Frank… I am concerned about aging and my health and having to possibly take a pill for cholesterol and I would like some assistance with the idea of a program or something so that I can take care of myself as I get older.
Seth… You have two choices. One, don’t get older! (Group laughter and banter.) The second choice and the answer that was given to you earlier by the man through whom I speak was correct. He told you that you should see a nutritionist, which to be truthful was my idea. (Stephanie laughed.) The problem that you are truly having is a fear of getting old. You have been for numerous years classified as a weekend warrior. With this thought in mind your fear of aging hurts you due to the fact that you refuse to accept the concept that you are not twenty-five. Are there any other questions?
Spencer… I have a question. As we refer to time you always refer to it as a point of reference. Is it better to think of time as a place or a point in space?
Seth… First let me explain a concept that our friend Frank has had and is still having.
Frank… Time troubles.
Stephanie… Yeah.
Seth… There is no such thing or concept that is valid that explains time. You reside, so do I for that matter, in what one must call the ever expanding now. Everything that has happened, that is happening and that will happen always is happening concurrently. When one looks at time on the physical plane you can imagine a ruler, one, two, and three, four out to infinity. That is not factual. If one were to look at your own existence from the time you were created from The All That Is to this specific point of reference it would be a spindle vertically. When you would then choose to look at anything you would pull a leaf from that spindle at a specific point of reference. By doing so you then study or examine that concept at that specific point of reference. You would then place the leaf back into where you took it from and move to a different point of reference.
With that thought in mind you exist now in the twenty first century with the knowledge of the twenty first century. If you were studying a point of reference in the fourteenth century the knowledge you have at this point of reference would be useless to you in the fourteenth century. Therefore, you would have to look at a point of reference that gave you knowledge of the fourteenth century. When one would then end any incarnation, you move to a higher plane where linear time does not exist. Knowledge exists and your ability to grow is determined by your own choosing. Each point of reference within a higher realm is never measured by time, it is calculated by knowledge. We again fall back on to the idea of The Ever Expanding Now. The more knowledge you gain and have the now expands not only for you but for all or everyone. I would strongly recommend that you read and re-read this paragraph a few times to get a better understanding that the idea of a point of reference denotes a minute point of studying something.
Are there any other questions?
Spencer… When my consciousness within this life expands or grows for lack of a better term…
Seth… One can only hope.
Spencer… does the consciousness of all of my lives expand as well?
Seth… Knowledge and experience are the only reasons that you exist on the physical plane. You could not exist at a mature soul level until you experienced a young soul level. Therefore, the knowledge you gained from previous soul ages allows growth and development on higher levels that you use to formulate incarnations on whatever step you are at any particular point of reference. Do you understand?
Spencer… Yes, I just don’t understand the word previous since time is not linear.
Seth… Again, you are thinking in a linear fashion. Think of spindle, old soul, mature soul, young soul, baby soul, infant soul, created. (Seth motioned with Jerry’s hands to indicate places on the spindle.) There is no time, it’s just where you study. Let me give you another example, I’ll confuse you further. I want you to think of a pencil standing upright on a mirror. Four walls surrounding the pencil are also mirrored, the ceiling is also mirrored. Every reflection of that pencil is infinite. One can then pick out any specific reflection at any angle that you would choose and determine what knowledge that reflection has. Your knowledge is always translated into growth and development yet the pencil itself is the true soul and not the reflection. The knowledge that you receive is always translated and given back to the soul. I strongly recommend you read this again and again.
Spencer… The reflection is also only from that point of reference. So, another point of reference is another reflection even though you are looking at the same soul you only seeing a reflection…
Seth… What angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle, what angle.
Spencer… a fraction of it.
Seth… Right.
Spencer… Yeah.
Seth… You don’t have to write that.
Stephanie… No.
Frank… What angle, what angle, what angle… (Group laughter.)
Seth… I believe at this point we shall take a break. (9:57 P.M.)
Seth… Let us continue. I have a question. Deborah, do you know what you are going to do for next week? (Group laughter.)
Deborah… Yes, I will pull my hair out.
Seth… It would be nice to see a bald person here. (Debbie laughs. There was then conversation and kidding back and forth around Deborah’s challenge in formulation and asking questions.)
Seth… There are others that you can call and ask, just remember that.
Deborah… Okay.
Stephanie… One question I have is, is there any relationship to the approaching young soul population and the changes in weather? (Seth has stated to us that we have recently as world population shifted from Baby Soul Age to Young Soul Age.) And can you comment on what seems to be a tremendous increase in terrorism of all kinds and how are we supposed to think about and deal with all that is around us and clearly getting… Are you sleeping on my question?
Seth… Yes.
Stephanie… Why? It’s serious.
Seth… Read it again, I’ll contemplate it this time.
Stephanie… (Laughing.) Wow he’s in a mood. (Stephanie was directed to ask the question again.)
One question I have is, is there any relationship to the approaching young soul population and the changes in weather?
Seth… No!
Stephanie… Really?
Seth… No.
Stephanie… Oh, okay and can you comment on what seems to be a tremendous increase in terrorism of all kinds and how are we supposed to think about and deal with all that is around us and clearly getting worse and worse.
Seth… Nothing to do with the weather, no. Second, as the population moves from baby soul to young soul there will be a natural increase in violence. This increase in violence will tend to increase over the next millennium or so. Remember the idea of young souls is to explore the physical plane, and all it truly has to offer. With that thought in mind there will obviously be numerous kind and gentle people, as an example, Mother Theresa. The opposite side of that will of course be individuals like Hitler.
Are there any other questions?
Frank… Haven’t you said in the past that human emotion affects the weather?
Seth… But not in this instance.
Frank… How can our violent emotions not affect the weather?
Seth… Weather is a mass consciousness effect and therefore if you are taking something out of the physical plane you want the weather to be as good as possible so the more you have the more you can get. You don’t want an earthquake or a hurricane, they would prefer good weather.
Stephanie… Ha, that’s like when there is low crime when the weather is bad.
Seth… Correct.
Stephanie… Oh, hmm, interesting.
Frank… Could you explain in Seth terms what this idea of creating in the vortex means?
Seth… Define your reference point, vortex.
Frank… From the teacher Abraham having to do with meditation, having to be in a good place (mentally and emotionally.)
Seth… Simply put, the more comfortable one is, the more content you are the better you are able to create. Remember you are what you create. If you are under stress, your creations become weaker. If you are constantly worried about things your abilities lessen due to the fact that you can’t put in enough energy into that which you require.
Deborah… Oh.
Seth… Yes, you are there.
Deborah… How do I get out of that? (Laughs.)
Now to our friend Frank since you asked me to answer as Seth, I have a little question, who would I answer to if I wasn’t Seth? (Group laughter.)
Deborah… How would I get out of the negative state?
Seth… My first question to you is why do you enjoy it? My second question to you is if one assumes one would like to believe you don’t enjoy it then you must be staying there for reasons that you don’t even know yourself. If I was a therapist, I would ask you why are you punishing yourself and your answer is because I am afraid. The concept here is to remove yourself from a place of dis-ease is to adapt the idea that I can. I can be better. I can meditate. I can promote myself by doing things for myself without worrying about the consequences of my actions due to the idea that my actions will promote me into a positive state. Do you understand?
Deborah… Yes. I wanted to ask you about closing the channels when we talk about individuals with schizophrenia and meditation, mindfulness meditation or something else?
Seth… The best reference that I can give you is to speak to our friend Frank who did this with his previous employment.
Are there any other questions?
Frank… I can’t formulate mine into reasonable questions.
Seth… Want to make an unreasonable questions?
Frank… I feel like I have made some steps in terms of the idea of understanding why I have difficulties with over-controlling and the troubles I have with meditation and just allowing. I still would like a hand in taking it further.
Seth… One of the great problems that you have is the concept here of techniques. You become so caught up with the idea of a technique that you lose the concept of why the technique is there. The object here with meditation, which of course leads to growth and development is the simplest idea of learning to relax. You as an individual become so worried that you are not doing the technique correctly that you do not get the benefit of the technique at all. You then immediately start looking for another technique. A simple suggestion: enjoy what you are doing and forget about the technique.
Are there any other questions?
Spencer… Is the illusion of time appearing to be sped up now because consciousness is growing at a faster rate?
Seth… The answer is no. Let me give you a few illustrations. If you have ever ridden in a car and are going to someplace from your home, it always seems that it takes a long time to get there yet when you return it is very quick. This again proves the idea that time does not exist. When you were much younger as a child it was forever to go from one holiday to the next. As you matured you had a very quick span to go from Halloween to Thanksgiving to Christmas and the time span was shortened. It should be obvious that there are always the same number of days with the same amount of hours within each day. Therefore, it’s only an illusion that time changes, which again is not quite factual since time itself is manipulated by the speed in which you travelled. As you would approach the speed of light from a fixed reference point one ages very quickly yet if you were in the moving ship time would be very, very slow. A simple example, if you were to travel from here to the nearest star and come back it would take you at the speed of light about 8 years, but you would not age 8 years. Yet here at a fixed point you would age quite a bit more.
Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… Is it true that if one fears aging and what their belief is about it then one is destined to create that no matter what?
Seth… Let me ask you a question, do you believe that you are what you create?
Stephanie… Yes, I do.
Seth… Now if you will re-read your question then you will see that you will have already answered it by your statement.
Stephanie… Most individuals fear aging for various reasons and is this why many or most have actual physical manifestations of these fears?
Seth… The question itself is far too complex for me to give you a fully detailed answer. A great deal of that has to do with mass consciousness beliefs. Then if you mix in to that the individual belief systems you can gather that there is no simple way one can make an answer that fits the whole. It would be a series of lectures on aging that would satisfy your question.
A great deal of tonight’s lecture truly has to do with change, and I would suggest to you Frank, that you edit out the unnecessary parts of Deborah and then put in that which you believe could be a good session towards the end of change (lectures).
Stephanie… All of this leads back to the idea of belief systems and changing one’s belief systems correct?
Seth… Correct
Stephanie… So how would one considering the mass consciousness ideas behind this topic begin to even challenge these beliefs?
Seth… One of the simplest ways to do this is a simple idea of learning. One must learn to be happy and content with what they have and what they are and not always be content and happy with what they think they should have or want. It is your needs that determine that which you possess, therefore make sure that you are prosperous with what you have so that your prosperity stems from within and not from without. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Yes, and if one is more able to do this then one may age differently than what the common belief systems show?
Seth… The mass consciousness effects are far too pervasive. That does not mean that you will not be content. It means you should be content. It also means that a wig would be very helpful for you. (Group Laughter.)
Stephanie… Are you saying that when one’s aging body starts to let’s say collapse that if one is content internally this doesn’t have to matter in terms of feeling or being content? Do you know what I mean?
Seth… I know what you mean, you don’t know what you mean. Let me give you an example here. As you age your physical body will automatically deteriorate.
Frank… That’s so cheery!
Stephanie… It’s true.
Seth… That which you could do at forty you cannot do at ninety. However, this does not mean that you will not be content or in simpler terms be happy. It only means that you cannot do certain things that you previously did. It is your ability to adapt or to change your perceptions that allow you to be content with that which you are. Do you understand?
Stephanie… So, the idea of surrendering to what is for the most part, as you say the acceptance will help with the feelings of being content. It’s hard for the population to do this given the stigma of aging.
Seth… The stigma of aging is more noticeable in Western civilizations than in Eastern ones. The elders were always revered and cherished. In Western societies the elderly, due to their inability to be strong and forceful in terms of physical prowess, have been demoted in stature. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Yes.
Let me leave you with this: Change is always necessary, it promotes you. It gives you the ability to gain knowledge and experience. I have previously said that when individuals, societies do not have the ability to change, they fail. They fail because their wants multiply, and their needs are lessened. By their needs being lessened I mean that they cannot be totally fulfilled and unhappiness increases. Simply put, there is a lack of prosperity. A very pleasant evening to all.
(Session ended at10:54 P.M.)
