Seth 361
Questions on the Six Points
February 26, 2008
8:35 PM
Seth… Good evening, a pleasure to have all of you here again. At best we will deal with the idea of a very large and hopefully not overwhelmingly complicated housekeeping session. Before we get into that we shall delve into a little bit more complicated housekeeping work. To our friend Frank thank you for your timely giving of the typed material, it is much appreciated.
Now that being said we will go into a little more of housekeeping work. George, I believe that some of the things that you should be involved with here are in terms of a meditation on your part. In terms of starting out on a day-to-day basis. And what I would suggest that you do is to empty your mind of any not tranquil thoughts and just basically allow yourself to float freely.
George… Anything in my mind that is not tranquil thoughts? Only allow those… (thoughts that may be pleasant?)
Seth… No, I want you to empty your mind of all thoughts and float freely. If you find yourself focusing on anything, whether it be pleasant or unpleasant it matters not. So, I’d like you to attempt on a routine basis to do this exercise because I believe that you must first learn to get in touch with your inner self, the individual who you are truly responsible to is of course you. The only way that you are going to find yourself is to allow your inner self to come forth. Do you understand so far?
George… I hear the words, but I can’t say I understand them.
Seth… Okay. What do you not understand about this?
George… I’ve tried mediation before.
Seth… No. You are trying to focus on something. I don’t want you to focus on anything. In other words, you are to sit quietly, listen to your breathing, listen to the sounds that are around you, and whatever tends to come forward meaning from within you, not from without, take notice thereof. And this is the inner core of your personality that you have lost somewhere along the way. So that is part of your homework that you must indeed endeavor to do. Do you understand a little better now?
George… Yes
Seth… I am not looking for you to concentrate on anything. I do not want you to say a mantra. I do not want you to do anything but to learn to just be yourself. And the way you be yourself is to finally get in touch with you. You do this by literally you’ll excuse the expression, doing nothing. So that is the first order of business there. Once you have mastered this, you are to do this a minimum of four times a day and you may take anywhere from two to four minutes each time. We are not dealing with hours at a time here although you can certainly eventually start expanding your time. (Of course, you the reader can try this getting in touch with your inner self exercise. F.N.)
Jasmine… What happens Seth, because I have tried many times when the thoughts come that are not productive?
Seth… Push them away. No thought is unproductive. So that is the first order of business that you must…
Jasmine… But the unpleasant thoughts, the ones you might be obsessing about…
Seth… No thought is unproductive. You allow yourself to not focus upon that thought.
Jasmine… You acknowledge it?
Seth… It is not even a question of acknowledging anything. The more you acknowledge it, the more things will come. In other words, let us assume for example that you are sitting quietly and peacefully and dealing with what is. You are going to and all of a sudden, a thought or a feeling about Isabella comes in that is unpleasant. You take notice thereof and just move it away. You don’t concentrate on it, you don’t acknowledge it, you just move it away. It’s there, goodbye. That’s basically what you have to do. And this is the start, and I would not like even the idea of the understanding of the word of meditation here at all. For this is not meditation. This is an opening of yourself up to the inner you. So please leave the word meditation out of the idea of what you are doing, but for the purposes of explanation we will use the idea of the word meditation. Do you understand? That’s the first thing.
The second bit of housekeeping Jasmine, really concerns you in terms of your own destructive tendencies to promote weakness within self. You understand what I mean when I say the word wanting. Do you not?
Jasmine… Yes
Seth… In other words, wanting leaves you with nothing. Is that correct?
Jasmine… Yes.
Seth… So, the question then arises, what occurs when you routinely tell yourself you cannot?
Jasmine… So, you can’t.
Seth… Correct. So, you rob yourself of an ability to do something. In other words, if you tell yourself, you are not strong enough to lift a carton, then you are telling yourself you are not strong enough not only to lift the carton, but to do various other things. And what you then bring to yourself is an inability, a lack if you will, of an ability to accomplish any sort of a physical task. It then carries over into the idea that you have an inability to do mental work as well. Do you understand how one fits with the other? The idea here is that your thoughts play on your feeling which give rise to emotional responses to that which you are. Do you understand this so far?
Jasmine… Your thoughts play on your emotions which give rise to feelings.
Seth… To feeling to that which you believe. So, if you routinely say, I cannot lift something you are telling yourself that you are weak.
Jasmine… That I understand. I am not sure if I understand the leap from the weak physically to the weak emotionally.
Seth… Please explain the difference between the weak physically and the weak emotionally.
Jasmine… Well, we only have a certain amount of physical strength required to…
Seth… Without trying, you do not know what you have. I am not saying that you should go ahead and try to lift an automobile. There are few people here who could do that. Yet if you then all went out and try to move or lift a car or somebody, I guarantee that all of you, the seven of you could accomplish that if you would then apply yourselves. Weak physically means weak emotionally. One goes with the other. When you tell yourself you cannot, when you become resistant to, you again become a victim first of all of self and then of everyone else. So, you must learn to practice the idea of strength. Do you understand?
Jasmine… I do not know necessarily where this is coming from but okay.
Seth… It is not a question of coming from anywhere. We are dealing here with the idea of individuals who have been given a task and within that task they go ahead and either do not understand what they are doing, do not fulfill their promises, do not understand what they have set before themselves. In other words, let us take a look for example at Kaetorina. She was having difficulties. Well, she was assigned a book to read. And if she had bothered to take the idea and time to read and understand, instead of reading to get through it…
Stephanie… Painful! (Group laughter.)
Seth… Then of course she promotes self. When of course she decides to read to get through it, she loses that which she should have gained. Therefore, she is starting at page one again.
Stephanie… (Moans, laughs.) I was almost on 200. Shoot myself!!
Seth… And she will be required to go back to the beginning again and to deal with every page as if it were new. Just as an aside, please tell the man through whom I speak that he starts on page one too since he has not fulfilled his work and dedication therein, so he starts again.
Isabella… Can I ask a question about this…about this conversation? (Laughter from the peanut gallery because Isabella may be trying to get around asking a question off topic.)
Seth… Go ahead.
Isabella… I’m just very curious about how you practice strength. Because I really like the expression weak physically means weak emotionally, you have to practice strength, but how do you do that?
Seth… By doing it.
Isabella… Just being strong in situations.
Seth… In all situations. Once you tell yourself you cannot, you cannot. That means you’re wanting, you’re lacking. There is a void within yourself. It is a definition that one must use to help define themselves. For example, if you define yourself, as an example, as George does, by his job, or he believes that he does, what does that mean about everything else? Everything else has fallen by the wayside. So, the idea here is that you never define yourself by a specific idea. You define yourself from an internal source, and that is more connectable to the real you. And you practice being strong, by being strong. The idea of a person who says I can’t, I won’t, do it for me, it’s too much for me, is practicing weakness and victimization of self. The individual who says please do this with me, even though I know it’s heavy for me, but I will do this with you, is practicing strength. They may not have the physical ability to do something, but they have the mental strength to get assistance when they need it.
Isabella… So, for example when I went snowboarding alone on the mountain… (Seth glared.) …It’s related to this.
Seth… I warned you.
Isabella… How is that not related?
Seth… It is not related. I answered a specific question. Snowboarding is outside your realm. Start typing.
Let us get back to the other idea here of my six points that we delve into before. (Jasmine sighed) Do you have a problem, Jasmine?
Jasmine… No.
Seth… The sigh sounded like you had a problem. (There was kidding around and laughter with group and Jasmine about having to do work to be strong.) What would you like to say?
Jasmine… I don’t know.
Stephanie… I have a question related to her. I don’t know whether you relate to this but in terms of Jasmine, she has had quite a medical history. I think there was some trauma and scarring for her emotionally. Does that factor into her perception of her ability?
Seth… Of course, it does. But the real issue is not where even no matter how ill she was recently, the weakness does not stem from there. The weakness stems from her upbringing where if something is withdrawn if you don’t do something, you become weaker. You have a void; you have a lack within self. Therefore, to regain strength you then start depending upon others to do for you. Yes, it is far too easy to use illness as an excuse for lack of strength. But in this instance, it does not stem from there.
Stephanie… So, it is an emotional basis?
Seth… It is an emotional basis which is not based upon fact. Going back to our six points, a sigh by Jasmine, if you don’t know them you may pass around the sheet to review them and what they are. Each of you has missed, if you will, many opportunities when you look at those six points. And what we must start to do is to look at them and delve into, if you will, that which you believe you have missed, things that you have overlooked, in terms of how you are functioning at this particular point of reference. We may all have an opportunity to look at those points, pick one, two, or all six if you will, and discuss that which you have missed and how you tend to choose to rectify, so that you’re better able to make change.
Betty… Can someone read me the points?
Seth… You may read her the six points.
Stephanie… (Reads all six and there is conversation back and forth. Here are the six points. The reader should consider reviewing these six ideas that can help you facilitate change and perhaps write down what you may have missed and what to do to rectify to effect change in your life. F.N.)
One must decide which bridge in life is necessary to cross and which bridge is necessary to burn.
Two people who love each other do not look at each other but always learn to look together.
The person who takes your hand and then touches your heart is a true friend.
We rarely think of what we have but only what we miss.
Great events in a lifetime are usually the most quiet.
Differences in people make you and the family stronger.
Seth… Therefore, let us start with anyone who has an idea or feeling about any one of the points, or two it matters not, and we shall look into and delve into these ideas.
Frank… In terms of self, correct?
Seth… Well, it would certainly be that unless you feel that I have been making an error. You may certainly…
Frank… Now as it pertains to self I mean.
Seth… Of course.
Frank… I’ll start with the concept of appreciating what you have. I feel that, particularly lately, I mean while I’m noticing, I’m here at the table, I have good friends, I have family, financially things are good. I have, I’m very blessed. Yet, particularly in the last couple of days and maybe weeks, my feelings about self are negative, not good. I don’t feel… I intellectually understand, even a little bit more than intellectually understand that I am blessed but yet somewhere I feel not blessed at all. I feel unworthy.
Seth… I believe greatly in the idea that when somebody looks at themselves and tries to establish a routine of changing themselves, they change themselves of course by dealing with core beliefs. And one of the ideas that I have given to George is to attempt to look at the inner portion of self and you get in touch with that by looking at belief systems. Belief systems have been taught to you by your parents, by friends, relatives. And the core belief on many issues is hidden. It is hidden because it becomes camouflaged with day to day-to-day events. And these types of events often go unnoticed, unappreciated if you will. And so, when you don’t appreciate that which you are, you will find that you concentrate on what there is not. I am not wealthy, I don’t have enough money, I have too many bills. A great deal of this lack stems because you do not believe enough in self. If you know that your stack of bills is huge, one cannot wish them away, but one can learn to find ways so you can eliminate and decrease that which you owe by promoting self. Whether it be all of a sudden getting another job, whether it be cutting down on expenses that you do not currently see, whether it be just appreciating that my debt is not as overwhelming as I believe that it was. All these factors go into the idea that when we make changes, we do not have to look at what we do not have, but we must concentrate on what we are and what we perceive that we are. Do you understand?
Frank… Intellectually.
Seth… I do not ask you to know this as fact yet, but these are things that you have missed over many years and sometimes in instances that go around this table over lifetimes. So therefore, one cannot expect change to be instantaneous. That is an erroneous belief because you do not have the skill to make the change that is instantaneous for such a magnitude of difficulty. There are individuals who do. You do not.
It was specific for you.
Frank… I don’t have problems with bills.
Seth… It is not a question of problems with bills, when you do not like yourself…
Frank… That’s more specific to me. (Frank laughs.)
Seth… Those are your bills. Do you understand now?
Frank… Yeah. I understand.
Seth… Who would like to be next?
Stephanie… Are you talking about where in our life we have gone…
Seth… In these six points and changes where you have missed opportunities.
Stephanie… Okay. So, the first one would be you know with my father for example. That I didn’t burn this bridge fifteen years ago. That I was wanting for something else, and you know kind of let it burn.
Seth… No. That is not a factual statement. When you are dealing with individuals, the question arises, when you cross a bridge, when you walk over and take a new sense of direction, does that mean that you leave out and never deal with that individual again? Well, there are many times when you can do that. But there are just as many times when you cannot do that. But the point of crossing a bridge in terms that you can understand is not becoming affected by their actions.
Stephanie… You are talking about my actions.
Seth… No. Their actions.
Stephanie… What about their actions?
Seth… If you allow someone else’s actions to affect you…
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… you are then mired down by their difficulties. You have given over yourself to them in terms of their difficulties. Do you understand this so far?
Stephanie… Yeah, and I made it mine.
Seth… And you made it your difficulty. So many years ago, if you had crossed over to the idea of I am not going to become victimized by my father, I am going to understand what he is, I am going to appreciate what has gone on, but I do not have to participate in his difficulties. That is the change, that is the burning the bridge behind you. It is not necessarily not dealing with the individual because A) it might not be practical, it may be detrimental, but the difficulty here is the idea that for you, you want to end your suffering.
Stephanie… Right. So, I was talking about burning the bridge of wanting him to be different. I would have approached it differently like you said, I would have said this isn’t acceptable to me, either do this or that, and if he didn’t, I would leave it go.
Seth… That’s correct.
Stephanie… Which I did not do.
Seth… Which you didn’t do and the opportunity to promote self was lost.
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… It is the same idea when somebody is constantly saying, this is good enough for you but not good enough for me. Those presents are good enough for you, but not for my children. Do you understand?
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… And that is the degree of difficulty you are dealing with here. It is the idea of where do I cut off something that no longer serves me.
Stephanie… So, had I done this years ago…?
Seth… You would never be in the position you are now.
Stephanie… Right so you mean it’s because I had to up the ante for me to get the lesson?
Seth… Correct. The lesson, all lessons keep magnifying themselves. The universe constantly provides you with opportunities for advancement. Now the question here is, what do I mean by the term advancement? Well, it has many difficulties. Languages are a poor source of information. Advancement here means the ability to accept the change easily. It is experience that you get when dealing with difficult situations. All situations that present “problems” must be viewed as a challenge and an opportunity. The second you become a victim of that idea you cannot win.
Stephanie… So how would it have played out? I would have just left it; I wouldn’t have needed…
Seth… You wouldn’t have needed the…
Stephanie… business thing.
Seth… Correct. It wasn’t even the business thing. You would not have needed the idea that he would have paid you any attention. You don’t want to come, don’t come. You don’t want to see my children, it’s your loss. You don’t want to be a part of my life; well, you lost a daughter. How do you feel about that?
Stephanie… So, the position I am in right now and how I feel about it, and how I am going to approach this, it would have been the same, but fifteen years ago.
Seth… No, you would not have had the anger that you have now. You would not have the resentment of that you have now.
Stephanie… Oh, because I let it all occur.
Seth… You let it go on.
Stephanie… Right, so I would have not be dealing with it at all like that.
Seth… Correct
Stephanie… But would the relationship have been the same?
Seth… Well, I won’t answer that question.
Stephanie… Why not?
Seth… Move along. (Group laughter.)
Stephanie… So, you can say you know that I lost out in that way then. That I needed to bring it in a black and white terms.
Seth… It is not even the question of black and white. It is a question of you learning from experience. Did you ever notice that your chance encounters with one individual or many individuals tend to be repetitious upon things that you are having difficulty with?
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… Your seasonal players tend to fall into certain categories. And they do this because you are involved in a specific line of study. So, until you finish with that line of study, what do you expect?
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… Things repeat themselves because all questions have not been asked and answered fully. Do you understand so far?
Stephanie… Em hmm.
Seth… Do you have any other questions?
George… If we are sticking to the theme of which of these we have missed out on the most, I think the fourth point of rarely thinking about what we have and only what we miss has been a big recurring theme in my life and not being able to understand where I am at. And constantly dwelling on paths, choices and past decisions of not to take certain paths and what effect those do or do not have on myself now. I think that is one of the hardest…
Seth… Well, let us ask a simple question. How do you define yourself?
George… I define myself based on…
Seth… It is a simple question. If you were asked to please describe and how do you describe George? How do you define you? Let’s make the question simpler. Do you like you?
George… Sometimes.
Seth… Poor choice. So therefore, that is where you start with the idea of your concentrating on what you miss. What you miss is the most important thing you can ever possibly imagine. Do you have any idea of what you are missing?
George… Myself.
Seth… Yes, you are missing you. Because you can’t define you. And since you cannot define self, either because of the way you were brought up, or your belief systems, or both, which are factual. Then if you can’t define you, what do you expect of you? And the answer is misery. Becoming uncertain, becoming fearful, becoming afraid of if I don’t get that, I won’t have that. And therefore, you cannot define yourself in any way but something that is negative because you don’t know who you are. Which falls back upon my original housekeeping chore for you, find out who you are. And that is why I gave you the exercise to do. Does that make more sense to you now?
George… Yes. It is a very daunting prospect. (Laughter.)
Seth… It is not a question of daunting. It is a question of doing. No one may tell you what to do or not to do. No one should say this is right, this is wrong. The only thing that you must understand is that your greatest point of power is now. And that is what you must start with, and that is how you find yourself. Does that help?
George… A little bit.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… I just want to ask about, do differences in people make you and the family stronger? Are you talking about differences in terms of, if we are to use the whole Farther thing, differences, he’s this way, I’m that way?
Seth… Possibly, certainly.
Stephanie… So, making me stronger because I had to go through this and looking at the differences of what I would expect, what he values and all that.
Seth… Would you do the same to your children from the experience you had
Stephanie… No.
Seth… Then I believe that difference in people make you and your family stronger.
Stephanie… Okay, so it’s the learning from.
Seth… It is the experience gained by. Remember, you may learn something but not apply it. (Seth taps the table indicating the need to take notes.) You may learn something but not apply it. Jasmine. (Taps again.)
Stephanie… So, when you are talking about differences you are not necessarily saying…
Seth… Good or bad. I am not talking…depending on how you define them.
Stephanie… It’s what you do with them, what you do with the differences.
Seth… Of course. In any situation where there is more than one individual it is far too easy to point the finger at the other person and say that is the problem that we are having is due to you. The question arises. Is there a possibility that you could be wrong? Number two, if you tell everybody that you have blonde hair and everybody looks around the table and says to you, no I am sorry you have red hair, is there a possibility that you are not seeing self for what it is? So therefore, you must not only look towards self, but you must understand what others are saying to you on a specific point of study. Does it repeat itself? Does the universe give you the same information over and over and over again? Because if it does, then ask yourself the question, could I be wrong? And if I am wrong, why am I blaming someone else when I should be studying myself. That is the differences that you should look for to make you and the family stronger. So, the question arises. Do you have blonde hair?
Stephanie… No.
Seth… I believe that the illustration there is apt. I believe at this point we shall take a short break.
Seth… Let us continue. Anyone else have a question or something that they would like to go over?
Isabella… Am I allowed or not?
Seth… Depends on if it is on topic.
Isabella… Um, in relationship to we rarely think of what we have, but only think of what we miss. I think that I do that all the time.
Seth… You do that because again a great deal of what you believe to be true is a lack. Something that you do not perceive as having something. In other words, you tend to want someone to care for you. You tend to want someone to provide for you, meaning there is a lack
within you. So, you’re concentrating routinely on that which you do not have instead of what you have. And this has been taught to you and has been reinforced by you.
Isabella… From growing up?
Seth… And therefore, when you emulate the idea of I do not, instead of I do, you tend to miss. So, what you then do is you look at what you are missing instead of saying let’s reexamine myself. Well, if one were to ask you to define yourself, what is your one good attribute?
Isabella… What is one…
Seth… One good attribute of you?
Isabella… Umm, a good attribute, I think I am very intelligent.
Seth… Besides being very intelligent. Something more important. What are you? A what?
Isabella… A teacher, a sumari.
Seth… You are a sumafi (This is a category or very large family of souls who have certain attributes. In this case the sumafi are often teachers.) And that is the one attribute that you have absolutely no problem dealing with.
Isabella… No. (Said in agreement.)
Seth… So therefore, if you are a sumafi, and you are, a teacher, then therefore you do not question the fact that you can teach. And therefore, do you ever look at the idea that I am excellent at what I do? The answer is that you don’t do that properly. Why do I state that? Because in your retelling of the story, I had 29 children out of 62, I believe if the answer is correct, that got a four on an exam, you are waiting for someone to go and pat you on the back and say you did a wonderful job. And if truth be told, you feel an emptiness when people do not. That is how you are concentrating on what you are missing instead of what you are having. Does that make it clear?
Isabella… Yes
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Betty… Yeah, I’m still stuck with the bridge. In terms of crossing the bridge, and not becoming affected by other’s actions, I guess my question is when you are no longer affected by other’s actions, then why would you necessarily stay with the relationship?
Seth… You stay with any relationship, as you routinely do, because of fear. And in reality, therein you have not crossed the bridge. In other words, if you are staying in a situation…
Betty… That no longer serves, so I can let it go.
Seth… It is not a question of just letting it go, it is a question of ending.
Betty… That’s what I mean. Ending it.
Seth… No, you meant what you said. I am sorry. I am a better therapist than you are.
Betty… I am not a therapist. (Betty is a Nurse Practitioner.)
Seth… You understand the principal very well. And so therefore when you end something you do not have to go ahead and become affected by that something. When you stay in there, when you allow things to accumulate, if you will, you have a great tendency here to allow individuals to victimize you. And this has been a characteristic of yours for many lifetimes.
Betty… Okay.
Seth… So, if you allow people to take advantage of you, what is your experience?
Betty… So that is the point where I get hung up. I can work very hard; retrain the way I view my perspective on a situation. When in reality there is a point in time where you stop that, and you just get out.
Seth… What does the word “no” mean to you?
Betty… Um, an end.
Seth… Then let me ask you a question. Since it is obvious you do not know what the word no means, what do you believe you should do?
Betty… Are you… I’m lost. Not following.
Seth… In other words, if someone or something is not profitable for you and you have just stated I should get out, so that means an end of a situation and the answer is no, I do not want to participate in this anymore. Do you understand that statement?
Betty… Yes, I understand that.
Seth… Okay, so what does the word “no” really mean to you?
Betty…. That’s enough.
Seth… No, it doesn’t. What it really means to you is, I think about it, I’ll mull it over, I’ll give it a second chance, well, maybe I’m being too harsh. I know things can be different. Do you understand what I am saying?
Betty… Yes.
Seth… Since you have no concept of the word no, you are getting what you asked for.
Betty… Correct.
Seth… It is a question of putting yourself in the center at your greatest point of power, which is now, and understanding that if this is not serving me, this ends.
Betty… Yeah, because I get hung up in understanding things from the other perspective.
Seth… No, you do not… Who is the most important person that you know?
Betty… That is where I am constantly stuck.
Seth… I understand, who is the most important person that you know?
Betty… Self
Seth… You don’t mean that do you?
Betty… No. (Laughing.)
Seth… I understand that. I wouldn’t have asked the question the way I did. Well, isn’t it about time you explored the most important person that you know?
Betty… Yes.
Seth… And you do this by following the exercise I gave George earlier this evening. You have to do this.
Betty… Okay.
Seth… Does that make more sense now?
Betty… Yes. That is exactly where I was at tonight. This is perfect for me today.
Seth… I am glad I could be of some assistance. Remember there is a two-letter word you must practice, and that word is no. Do you understand?
Betty… Got it. Yes.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Arthur… Yes. On the same issue of deciding on which bridge to cross and which to burn, which is really about promoting self, I keep doing it and I do it, I don’t clarify it. I don’t take steps that I know I need to take or even want to take.
Seth… With your sister.
Arthur… My sister, changing my career, doing what’s good for me, with burning a bridge towards people who are perpetrators. All of that. Why is it so difficult for me to assess my own performance? Why do I second guess my life?
Seth… Abandonment is the issue for you. Don’t you feel abandoned?
Arthur… Yes, I think I do. (Said softly.)
Seth… So, if you feel abandoned then how can you cross a bridge, burn it behind you when you are leaving that which you felt abandoned by?
Arthur… So how do I change that?
Seth… You change it by understanding the self, meaning the larger you is here to gather experiences. Well, the question is, what type of experiences do you choose to gather? If we choose to gather experiences that are not profitable, how does it serve you?
Arthur… I guess it’s a negative line of study. (Laughs.) I don’t know.
Seth… No, it is not a question of a line of study. A negative line of study as Lee Chang does, a negative line of study is immensely profitable for him. Something that is not positive to a scientist is just as important as something that is. But a negative line of study, things that hurt you, things that you do not gain profitable experience from should be stopped. And by crossing the bridge or in this instance your refusal to do so, because what is the repeatable problem here? The repeatable problem is that these types of situations in your life repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. And if you like we can take a look at seven or eight of them and notice how they all repeat themselves.
Arthur… Maybe just two or three. (Laughs.) Really quickly.
Seth… It is really simple. Your sister is for one, a death was certainly for two in terms of abandonment, changing your career is an abandonment issue for you. Do I have to go further? They’re all repeatable on the same issue.
Arthur… Yeah, and they go all the way back. They all go all the way back to when I was born, and I am sure they go back further than that. But at least when I was born.
Seth… There you go. Do you understand? The question is you can certainly repeat them and if you don’t get them in this life, you will get them in the next or the next or the next.
Arthur… So, it’s facing whatever, I think…
Seth… Not facing, it’s not facing.
Arthur… Taking the action that…
Seth… It is understanding and learning from the experience. Do you understand? It is something to work on.
Arthur… Thank you.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Frank… The idea of taking someone by the hand and touching their heart. Are there any provisions or changes in that concept when the person that you are trying to take by the hand has hurt you? As opposed to just, they have gone a wrong direction?
Seth… Well, it is the same thing.
Frank… I thought it was but…
Seth… It is the exact same thing. If someone, if you’re going to go ahead and let us use you and the man through whom I speak for instance, well he may say something that hurts you. He may observe you doing something that hurts or bothers you? Understand so far?
Frank… Em hmm.
Seth… And let’s assume he states this to you, whether it be correctly or incorrectly matters not. But yet the reason that he did this is to act in terms of being a friend. I see you doing this to yourself. You’re not thinking, you’re not seeing something clearly. You are not making progress. You are falling back on your old ways. So, the touching of your heart is literally in this instance a figurative expression, meaning to grab you and to say look with me. Change your sense of perspective. This is what I am seeing. Look with me.
Frank… The question is more if say for example Cyndi does something that hurts my feelings.
Seth… You mean the slime that you are married to. The evil… (Laughter.)
Frank… Whatever the slime did…
Seth… No, no, I am being…
Frank… or if she does something to hurt me…
Seth… Was it willful?
Frank… No. It would probably not be. Well, you know it could be. That is one division and that’s the other. Let’s ask not willful?
Seth… In either event…
Frank… Honey, you hurt me so I take her by the hand and I say when you do this, this hurts my feelings.
Seth… Correct.
Frank… So, it’s basically, it’s exactly the same steps as if she did something else that hurt herself but doesn’t necessarily hurt me. Correct? That was the question. What if it is willful? Then it is the same thing anyway.
Seth… Same thing. Matters not.
Frank… Only you might say please stop.
Seth… Correct.
Frank… Okay.
Seth… Do you understand?
Frank… I understand.
Seth… Anybody else have a question?
Arthur… Can I ask something about this theme that I was working on last week about not being entitled?
Seth… No, not being entitled is again the fourth point. You rarely think of what you have, but only what you miss.
Arthur… I keep myself from having all that I can have.
Seth… Whether or not you are keeping yourself from whatever you do not have. If you concentrate on lack,
Arthur… You do not have.
Seth… You get wanting. Which is exactly what you are concentrating on. Does that make sense to you?
Arthur… Yeah.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Frank… Yeah, I have a couple. On topic, last week I came across, I picked up a book I hadn’t picked up in months and there was, that people need to not look at each other, but with each other. And…
Seth… This has been said many times, it is by an old French philosopher.
Frank… Right. He wrote The Little Prince. I looked it up and I wasn’t able to tell Jerry yet. Um… I chose to pick up, at that point to create that?
Seth… No. The universe provided it for you.
Frank… Correct. (Laughter and group by-play) What am I talking about?
Seth… If you were to look at each of the points individually…
Frank… I have…
Seth… You could very easily find those ideas in a myriad of words, a myriad of different types of things, some exact, some slightly different, some more, some less. What I have done with these six points is at best said to paraphrase them to give each of you an idea of where change is necessary. The idea of when to cross a bridge, when not to cross a bridge, to work together with people instead of butting heads together, to when you love someone let them touch your heart, don’t be standoffish, even if it is a criticism they are giving you. Learn to accept these types of things. Look at the idea of what you do not have as compared to what you have. Which is more profitable for you? What you have or what you do not have? The idea that and none of you have mentioned this that the greatest moments, the most important things in your life, are not a supernova.
Frank… That was going to be my next question.
Seth… They are quiet events. They are things that when you look back upon them, when you reflect back, my god I made such a change here, or I missed an opportunity there. These are the types of things. Was I so resistant to change that I could not hear? These are great events.
Frank… The great events have to do with…
Seth… Change always, always.
Frank… And that change could be quiet, like for example if at some point I am no longer in the forest that would be a great change.
Seth… Not in this lifetime (kidding), but certainly yes. The idea here is when you see a difference with you or someone else “family.” Well, the idea here is are the differences that you see pulling you apart or can you learn from them and appreciate change that you might have to make, or they might have to make? Remember you are not alone. You work with individuals, and many of them. So, the differences that you see and feel are often very important. Far too many individuals state, if that person would do this, if that person would do that, then I can do this, and they wouldn’t do this. That is not a difference. That is pointing a finger at someone. And the differences that you say here is well, they have an idea about something. And if they have an idea about something, and I do not see that idea let’s explore it together. Let’s look together, that’s a difference. That’s a difference that is beneficial. If I have been told one thing and the next person tells me something similar, and the third person tells me something similar, and the blonde sitting over here (referencing Stephanie) then there are possibilities and the differences I am hearing may be enough to cause me to look at myself so I can become greater than what I think I am. All this is change. All this is done so that you gather experience to make choices that influence your outer self. And this is always done from inside to out, not outside to in. Go ahead.
Frank… In terms of having found that quote and then was I… was it correct for me to surmise, I also connected it to, the patient that I have that is always seeing the grass greener and having trouble with the grass is greener?
Seth… That’s crossing a bridge.
Frank… And he hasn’t
Seth… And he never will. Unless he decides, it doesn’t matter. If I had a better job, if my house was better, if I had a better car, if my dog or cat was better than the neighbors. It matters not. There is always something. That when you have a lack within yourself, you will see others as being better, more important, more prosperous, more this, I don’t have enough money. I can’t find the right dress. My suit isn’t good enough. I don’t like my tie. I won’t get a new job that I want. All this is lack, it’s an emptiness, a void. And we handled this for a long time.
Frank… Well, what I’m asking is that I thought that the universe gave me this information for me but then also for secondary…
Seth… No, I’ve given you the information for yourself and I told you long before this incident occurred that you are a teacher.
Frank… I understand.
Seth… And that you are to pass this information along. If I just wanted to write a book I would sit down and I would dictate a book. But this is more profitable because each of you can go out and pass the word. And the one word that you pass to somebody that they pick up will be passed to someone else, and then be passed to someone else. For example, Jasmine’s statement in her class, what would love do, well this has affected so many young individuals that by the time she ends her incarnation it could number in the hundreds of thousands. So, the idea here is how do you perceive self in that instance? Is it more profitable to perceive yourself as a victim or a hero? I believe the hero is far more profitable. But yet if you look at yourself and say I don’t have, I didn’t, I can’t, I will not, I’m weak. What do you have? The answer is nothing but misery.
Frank… But again, I think what I am asking here specifically is did I, or did I not…
Seth… I’ve answered your question.
Frank… Alright.
Isabella… But why would anybody choose that?
Seth… Choose what?
Isabella… I can’t. I won’t. I’m weak.
Seth… Why do you?
Isabella… I don’t think I choose that.
Seth… Of course, you do. (Isabella was mumbling, grappling with this.) You do! And that is a statement of fact. If you need somebody to take care of you, you choose weakness.
Isabella… Alright.
Seth… Then we are finished with that. Is there anything else?
Frank… Questions from connecting to other past sessions to this material, so when dealing with self the idea of belief in self, belief in self should eventually turn into faith in self. Is that part of… (While Belief Verses Faith has been mentioned it is covered extensively as the next major topic that Seth lectures on starting with Session 411.)
Seth… Belief is closed ended. Faith is …
Frank… You start with belief, but then one should have faith in themselves.
Seth… I believe that one should never have a belief in self because once that belief may be shaken by something else that occurs, you tend to fall apart.
Frank… It is like self-esteem that goes up and down?
Seth… Correct. You need to always have faith in self, not belief.
Frank… Well, you are working towards it. If one does not have faith in self then one has to work towards it.
Seth… Towards faith in self. Nothing to do with belief. Nothing to do with belief.
Frank… Alright, okay. In terms of strengthening self, there was a session about the third eye. But there was not of much of any kind of an explanation. Could you, and particularly if it was going to be taught to others, how would that work in terms of the idea strengthening self?
\Seth… You strengthen self by taking in that which the universe provides. That is seeing. If you are open on the exercises, all information comes from the internal self. So, you must be open to see what there is.
Jasmine… Does the third eye bring information from the inside through our awareness?
Seth… The third eye as you will understand it, the third eye…
Jasmine… The chakra, yeah.
Seth… is an awareness of. But where does the greatest awareness stem from? Inside of you. And once you are comfortable with the inside of you, you may look to the outside universe to provide information. But the greatest information comes from you. You are your source of your information. You are your source of your own resistance; you are your source of your own prosperity. YOU ARE WHAT YOU CREATE! That should be in capital letters and emblaze it upon your own psyche. Your conscious mind deals with the internal aspect of yourself as well as the external aspect of yourself. Yet when you close off to the internal portion of you, you limit that which you can accomplish. Because your mind then has to circumvent, your conscious mind has to circumvent the blockade of where it’s getting its information from. And therefore, you become less effective.
Isabella… Is that your emotional side?
Seth… No. Your emotional side and your emotions are but a reflection of that which your conscious mind is bringing forth. Your thoughts become your consciousness. There are far too many therapists who supposedly deal with the idea of the unconscious as compared to the conscious mind. In reality there is no such difference between the two. And when you believe in an unconscious self, you have limited that which you can deal with.
Isabella… See I was thinking more emotional vs. rational side.
Seth… Rational means being able to control that which.
Isabella… Correct.
Seth… In reality you can always control that which.
Isabella… It’s whether or not I choose to.
Seth… Correct. See (To Stephanie) how much you missed? (There was a back and forth between what Stephanie had read and misunderstood.) Go ahead.
Isabella… I think what I am struggling with these days is not allowing my emotional side to take over. And really…
Seth… Well, we will deal with that next week possibly. Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… Yeah, I wanted to ask in terms of the differences, at this point now I am having difficulty with my mother’s reactions. She continues, you know in terms of differences, she is very afraid of confrontation and very afraid to, she is afraid period. And her passivity angers me.
Seth… Have you told her?
Stephanie… I have told her and then there is a new reference point now where based on the last event having to do with my father, she has not responded at all.
Seth… Did you ask her why not?
Stephanie… No, I have not yet.
Seth… And did you say, with your inactivity and your inability to answer him is hurting me. Are you aware of that?
Stephanie… Okay. But my question would be how many times would I be continuing to confront her because that’s what makes her different.
Seth… You confront her as long as it continues to bother you. If it doesn’t bother you, cross the bridge and then you don’t need it anymore. Right now, you do.
Stephanie… Okay, so that’s my question. Why would it stop bothering me?
Seth… Because it will
Stephanie… Because I have accepted that that’s just her?
Seth… No. Because the acceptance of that is her is only a camouflage system.
Stephanie… Meaning an excuse for me to not to…
Seth… Correct.
Stephanie… So, my question is why will I all of a sudden not care?
Seth… You will not care because you will have accomplished that which you seek to accomplish.
Stephanie… Which is what in relationship to her?
Seth… In terms of your relationship to her, there are individuals who you can only do certain things.
Stephanie… Right.
Seth… Yet, you know she is capable of more.
Stephanie… Yes, when she chooses, that’s correct.
Seth… So therefore, what she does bothers you.
Stephanie… Because she’s choosing to not.
Seth… Correct and that’s what’s bothering you. So, when you understand that this is as much as she can do then of course it doesn’t matter. But right now, you know she is capable of defending you and doing more.
Stephanie… Okay. So that’s really the point, so it wouldn’t end my confrontations with her when I know that she has the ability to.
Seth… Correct.
Stephanie… Because when she does write letters, they are extremely eloquent, and she doesn’t have Alzheimer’s at all.
Seth… Correct. (Group laughter.)
Frank… Selective Alzheimer’s.
Stephanie… Yeah, clearly. So, I would not stop that. It would be when she literally does not have the ability that I would let that go because the expectation would be faulty.
Seth… Correct. That is correct.
George… I heard you refer to Isabella and Frank as teachers. Is that a reference to their basic personas? Does that mean that they discover?
Seth… No. Everyone who is sitting around this table who has gathered information from me. I choose to challenge you to become a teacher, to pass along certain ideas, information, concepts if you will, to anyone who requires them.
Frank… I wanted to write about dis-ease and we don’t have the material.
Seth… Find it.
Frank… I was going to ask your help.
Seth… Find it. That’s not my problem. That is yours.
Stephanie… You mean the sessions we have had?
Frank… That was before we took notes. (There was an extended conversation about the fact that we did not take notes earlier on in the sessions.)
Seth… Let us move along, you can have this conversation later. Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… Oh yeah, I have a two-patient question.
Seth… We are still on subject.
Stephanie… Alright.
Seth… Are there any other questions?
Stephanie… I am just curious about this patient Amy that I have that I used to see in Great Neck. All of a sudden, she has decided because she has a friend who, I don’t know, had medication, and said, oh take this, it’s the greatest. So, she takes it and she’s like cured. (Group laughter.) So, I am feeling a little confused about, I mean alright she’s not cured. But my question is, is she now telling herself that the pill is her panacea and that she no longer requires therapy from me?
Seth… Let me ask you a simple question. Did you read the book?
Stephanie… Your book?
Seth… Yes. Covered it completely. Reread it again. Next question.
Stephanie… Alright I got you. So, but she is saying to herself this is what I required so it is becoming truth. So, my question is, I want to know for me did I make an error in not recommending medication for her?
Seth… You could recommend that she take one pill of grass every day and if she believes that it works, it works. Doesn’t matter what it is. The idea here of medication to assist people works because individuals and physicians believe that it works.
Stephanie… Alright.
Frank… It goes beyond placebo though.
Stephanie… Yes, I understand that. This is not somebody who had small issues. We worked a lot on her stuff,
Frank… It is in the book.
Stephanie… I know that. (Laughter.) I scanned it.
Seth… Second question? (Betty said something directed to Stephanie)
Seth… Go ahead, Betty.
Betty… It can be the opposite; the therapists keep sending patients to me for medicines they don’t need.
Stephanie… Oh.
Seth… And that is because physicians believe that medication works.
Betty… Yeah, and then they go my therapist says and it is very difficult.
Seth… I understand and whether they needed it or not you have to be the one to put them on the correct path.
Betty… Yup.
Seth… Are there any other questions? Let me leave you all with this. Each one of you must consistently review those six ideas, if you will. Use them wisely to foster change within self. Doing so you will find that your needs will be met, and your wants lessened. We will deal more with change next week. A fond and hardy good evening to all.
(Session ended; no time given.)
